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Old 10-22-2014, 02:34 PM
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Now I see! You mean they didn´t change the style, but of course carpets and tapestries etc were renewed from time to time (like in every household). I remember the Queen from a documentary in the 1990s choosing the colour of a new carpet for the palace. But I guess she took care shades, structures etc. didn´t alter and remained like the old ones...?
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Old 10-22-2014, 03:07 PM
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This is how the George iv state rooms at BP are likely to be re-done in any putative refurbishment plan... fabrics rewoven to the original designs, more saturated colour, more generous folds in drapery, higher quality passementerie..[ all in keeping with the original designs, that were progressively 'watered down' in subsequent renewals ].

It is indeed a far cry from etiolated Scandinavian taste, which has NO PLACE in a late Georgian ENGLISH Palace...Click image for larger version

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Old 10-22-2014, 04:06 PM
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Old 10-22-2014, 04:25 PM
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This is how the George iv state rooms at BP are likely to be re-done in any putative redecoration plan... fabrics rewoven to the original designs, more saturated colour, more generous folds in drapery, higher quality passementerie..[ all in keeping with the original designs, that were progressively 'watered down' in subsequent renewals ].

It is indeed a far cry from etiolated Scandinavian taste, which has NO PLACE in a late Georgian ENGLISH Palace...Attachment 292454

The Red Drawing Room at Windsor Castle.
If Buck House was just primarily a royal residence, I'd be all for a make over of the place but what we're looking at here is not only a residence of the monarch, but also a palace that in and of itself, is a museum of British history. It should be refurbished rather than redecorated IMO.

To totally make over rooms at BP would be like renovating the Mona Lisa and having her hair styled in a mullet.
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Old 10-22-2014, 04:56 PM
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That was polka dot? I thought it was dalmatian fur!
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Old 10-22-2014, 05:09 PM
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If Buck House was just primarily a royal residence, I'd be all for a make over of the place but what we're looking at here is not only a residence of the monarch, but also a palace that in and of itself, is a museum of British history. It should be refurbished rather than redecorated IMO.

To totally make over rooms at BP would be like renovating the Mona Lisa and having her hair styled in a mullet.
The private rooms are decorated according to the tastes of the occupants but the state rooms are now kept as they were redone by Queen Alexandra in 1901.
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Old 10-22-2014, 07:54 PM
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She spent too much money on them and the family has decided to wait until they can afford to redecorate.
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Old 10-22-2014, 08:58 PM
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Oh yes, some palaces and castles indeed "need" to be cluttered because that was the style back then.

For an example, look at this 17th C salon (Huis ten Bosch Palace, The Hague): http://fast.mediamatic.nl/f/tqgr/ima...45-800-530.jpg

Or Frederik VIII Palace (the residence of Crown Prince Frederik and Princess Mary): http://multimedia.pol.dk/archive/004...l__420555a.jpg

A salon at the royal castle of Gripsholm, Sweden:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/nation...olm/5095773241

These are examples of how emptying the room improves the whole appearance.
I love my Royal Family but have to admit my taste in furniture and style is difinitely 17th Century as displayed. Now you have just gone and made me all picky and thinking the Red Room would have benifitted from the removal of many overstuffed dust catchers.
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Old 10-22-2014, 09:00 PM
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To me it's not a question of gutting the place it's about making the rooms and their contents look their best. That could mean removing things, change the lighting, adding things... We might not think so but even the way royal palaces are presented is up to the contemporary taste. The way BP is furnished today reflects the way classical styles was viewed when the refurbishment was done which isn't always how it was intended to be in the first place and at the same time we have a different way of looking at it than they did.




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Princess Michael attended but not Prince Michael. I guess Princess Michael was Prince Andrew's 'date'.

If Prince Charles redecorates BP, IMO, he will keep it to the same style as it is now with the same amount of 'clutter'. He and Camilla do not mind family pieces 'cluttering' their houses.

I totally agree about William having minimalistic taste. If he furnishes BP, it would look like a real estate staged house rather than a lived in house/Palace.
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Old 10-22-2014, 09:07 PM
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Princess Michael's dress was hideous. Hurt my eyes.
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Princess Michael attended but not Prince Michael. I guess Princess Michael was Prince Andrew's 'date'.

If Prince Charles redecorates BP, IMO, he will keep it to the same style as it is now with the same amount of 'clutter'. He and Camilla do not mind family pieces 'cluttering' their houses.

I totally agree about William having minimalistic taste. If he furnishes BP, it would look like a real estate staged house rather than a lived in house/Palace.
Poor Andrew, always the 5th wheel.

I hope they don't redecorate BP as I think it should remain the way it is as it's history. The people who live in the apartments can redecorate how they want, but the public rooms I feel should remain the same.
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Old 10-23-2014, 08:07 AM
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I think that is exactly what will happen - the palace is owned by the nation and not by the BRF so it is part of the nation's heritage and thus any refurbishment would have to meet the stringent requirements of the heritage people and after over a century of looking the way they do I think they will remain like that.

The palace was rewired electrically in 1949 and hasn't been done since for electricity but the palace itself looked great the last time I was there - but of course the carpets used for the summer openings aren't the same ones used for state occasions (they are replicas and harder wearing due to the 1000s of people who go through it each year.
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Old 10-23-2014, 10:32 AM
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Today's fabrics and rugs would never hold up like those used in the staterooms in 1901. I'm not really concerned about any redecorating, as I will be gone before the IKEA King (William) comes to the throne. By then, he'll probably be out of the "modern" mindset anyway. As people age, they want to be surrounded with photos, doo-dads and other things that add warmth to a place.
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Old 10-23-2014, 11:23 AM
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What the heck is an IKEA King?

When was the last time Buckingham Palace had any structural work on it?
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Yes, 'twas a joke. There is a Disney film, 101 Dalmatians, in which the villainess Cruella DeVille attempts to collect enough puppies to make a coat for herself. Naturally, she fails. When that movie was popular, there were Dalmatian print fake fur coats for children.
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Interiors can change because also the taste changes in time. An example is the Royal Palace in Amsterdam (build 1648) which was restored in the 1960's, to the bare minimum of that time: lots of marble, no curtains but blinds, etc. In the period 2005-2010 the building was closed for another major restoration.

The "cold palace" was partially brought back in the Empire style of around 1800. Lost chandeliers and candelabras were re-found and restored. New tapestries and upholstery were ordered. The furniture all was painfully precize restored. Suddenly the palace has a "warm feel". So it does not need to return to an "empty" building, but often it will be more strict in style corresponding with a period.

Moses and Aaron Chamber (before): http://fast.mediamatic.nl/f/tqgr/ima...95-800-539.jpg

Moses and Aaron Chamber (after): http://perssupport.nl/apssite/binari...5+-+Ruigrokjpg

One of the guest suites (before):
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The same guest suite (after): http://www.refdag.nl/polopoly_fs/gas...3631203778.jpg

The throne room (before): http://i.marktplaats.com/00/s/ODMwWD...TtZR7/$_85.JPG

The throne room (after): http://www.refdag.nl/polopoly_fs/sch...3085116572.jpg

A restoration can result in a drastic change, as the pictures show.
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Poor Andrew, always the 5th wheel. ... [snipped]
It is the interesting that the main wheel decided not to attend. I wonder what Singapore and its President did to Prince Charles. Techincally speaking, state visits are a part of Prince Charles' and his spouse' job.
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