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Old 06-23-2017, 02:59 AM
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Are they independent members of the UN or the EU - no. They are ONE country or ONE nation.

They are like Australian states or Canadian provinces not nations or countries.

Would the French regard Burgundy or Normandy as 'nations' or 'countries' - no. These four areas are no different - once independent of the whole but have lost their independence over time and are now part of a nation or country called the United Kingdom - one realm, one nation, one country.
How does that work then that in sports like football and rugby Scotland, England, Wales, Northern Ireland and even Gibraltar are independent teams while no such situation exists for Germany (no teams from Bavaria, Hannover, etc.), for Italy (no teams from Parma, Sardinia, Lombardy, etc.) and other countries?
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Old 06-23-2017, 03:14 AM
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Fifi is a law unto itself and as an independent body is able to set rules like that.

The UN and EU only allow countries/nations to join but Fifa likes to say it has more members than the UN because it allows parts of countries to join such as the British and Faroe Islands. They also include places like Israel in Europe when geographically it is in Asia. Cricket allows two different set ups - the four as above but also combines all of the islands of the Caribbean as one country - the West Indies. These are sporting organisations.

The Olympics only recognises the UK and not the states that make it up but they compete separately at the Commonwealth Games - along with the Isle of Man (are you saying that is a separate country as well???)

The UN is really the determinant of what is a country rather than a sporting body.
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Old 03-16-2018, 04:29 AM
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#UK The government has cancelled the 2018 State Opening of Parliament, they extended the parliamentary session to two years in order to deal with Brexit. This means there will not be a Queen’s speech in 2018.
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Old 03-16-2018, 05:43 AM
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I regret to say [then] that we may not see Queen Elizabeth 11 wearing the Imperial State Crown again. Weighty as it is, it will seem yet more so in future years, so I expect it to be carried before her, and set before the Throne in future years, with HM wearing the George 1V diadem instead.
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Old 05-08-2019, 05:22 AM
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Seems like we have to wait for the next State Opening.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48169014
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Old 09-17-2019, 05:07 AM
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The Queen could open Parliament twice in two months depending on the Supreme Court ruling. Seems crazy to go all out for that.
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Old 09-24-2019, 07:53 AM
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As Parliament is still in session, according the unanimous ruling by the Supreme Court, the Queen's Speech is off the table for now. The Prime Minister needs a new, and now proper, prorogation of Parliament first, to get a Queen's Speech back on the agenda.

Parliament will resume now, as there has not been any prorogation indeed. Possibly a Motion of No Confidence will be tabled. But Opposition will only do so when they can form a caretaker Government, able to set their own Election Day date.

It is also possible, seen remarks of Keir Starmer MP, that the House of Commons will once again take the reins in own hands and table Motions to limit the royal prerogative of a Prorogation to just some days at maximum and solely for closing the session and the preparation of a Queen's Speech to open a new session.
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Old 10-02-2019, 11:38 AM
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“Parliament will be #prorogued on Tuesday next week. State Opening the following Monday 14th October.”

Via Alastair Bruce Twitter
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Old 10-10-2019, 11:57 PM
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I’m guessing a formal announcement will come on who will accompany The Queen to the State Opening. I’m guessing Charles and Camilla.
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Old 10-11-2019, 02:06 AM
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A few of the recent times, I don't think there was an announcement either way, and we didn't know for sure that Charles and Camilla were coming until the TV coverage showed a glance of their chairs.
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Old 10-11-2019, 05:54 AM
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A few of the recent times, I don't think there was an announcement either way, and we didn't know for sure that Charles and Camilla were coming until the TV coverage showed a glance of their chairs.
Usually, there’s an announcement about the State Opening and who’s accompanying The Queen. We know it won’t be Prince Philip. There’s been no announcement though.
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Old 10-11-2019, 06:08 AM
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I wonder if the Britons see how this guy Johnson is using the really old Queen to further his political agenda.
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Old 10-11-2019, 06:22 AM
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Usually, there’s an announcement about the State Opening and who’s accompanying The Queen. We know it won’t be Prince Philip. There’s been no announcement though.
Is it known if this State Opening will be with the usual pomp and splendour or, like last time, Her Majesty just wearing daytime dress and hat?
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Old 10-11-2019, 06:22 AM
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All PM's use the Queen to further their political agenda. That is the whole point of the Queen's Speech - for the PM to have the Queen announce the political agenda for the upcoming session of parliament.

It might be called 'The Queen's Speech' but it is actually the PM's speech that the Queen has to read.
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Old 10-11-2019, 06:26 AM
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I’m guessing a formal announcement will come on who will accompany The Queen to the State Opening. I’m guessing Charles and Camilla.

But if iut's them would they then drive in a carriage with the Queen? Or the Queen alone and Charles and Camillay in another carrage as they did when Philip still attended?.
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Old 10-11-2019, 06:31 AM
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He is manipulating Parliamentary Rules and regulations. He is NOT manipulating Her Majesty.

Just because she is old she is not being manipulated because
But she is a doddering old dear!

Better men than Prime Minister's have been trying to manipulate her since she ascended the throne at 25. Not least Winston Churchill.

I really don't think Boris is any sort of intellectual challenge to a woman as sharp as she is and she has her own private advisers plus Prince Charles.

However, you have to understand that the UK IS A Constitutional Monarchy. But myy money is on the Queen.
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Old 10-11-2019, 06:49 AM
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But if iut's them would they then drive in a carriage with the Queen? Or the Queen alone and Charles and Camillay in another carrage as they did when Philip still attended?.
The Queen NEVER rides alone, not in her limo nor in a carriage. There is always a member of her family or a lady-in-waiting sitting at her left side.
The state opening of parliament is such an official thing, so I guess, if Charles and Camilla accompany her this year, Camilla will sit next to her while Charles, as a gentleman, sits opposite.
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Moderators - if you consider the above post as 'political' [as I do]. please remove it.
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:18 AM
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It looks like the Queen will not be wearing the crown:

https://twitter.com/AlastairBruce_/s...30239928762369

"Just attended the Earl Marshal’s Rehearsal for the State Opening of Parliament on Monday. Table for the Imperial State Crown is in place beside the throne."

There are two thrones, and a single chair next to them, so I'm thinking Charles next to the Queen again, and Camilla in the chair?
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Old 10-11-2019, 08:45 AM
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I happen to think this will be a full pageantry State Opening. The Queen could just wear her State Diadem and not put herself through bearing the weight of the Imperial State Crown and just have it placed right next to her. She’s approaching her mid 90’s after all.
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