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Old 06-23-2017, 02:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Iluvbertie View Post
Are they independent members of the UN or the EU - no. They are ONE country or ONE nation.

They are like Australian states or Canadian provinces not nations or countries.

Would the French regard Burgundy or Normandy as 'nations' or 'countries' - no. These four areas are no different - once independent of the whole but have lost their independence over time and are now part of a nation or country called the United Kingdom - one realm, one nation, one country.
How does that work then that in sports like football and rugby Scotland, England, Wales, Northern Ireland and even Gibraltar are independent teams while no such situation exists for Germany (no teams from Bavaria, Hannover, etc.), for Italy (no teams from Parma, Sardinia, Lombardy, etc.) and other countries?

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Old 06-23-2017, 03:14 AM
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Fifi is a law unto itself and as an independent body is able to set rules like that.

The UN and EU only allow countries/nations to join but Fifa likes to say it has more members than the UN because it allows parts of countries to join such as the British and Faroe Islands. They also include places like Israel in Europe when geographically it is in Asia. Cricket allows two different set ups - the four as above but also combines all of the islands of the Caribbean as one country - the West Indies. These are sporting organisations.

The Olympics only recognises the UK and not the states that make it up but they compete separately at the Commonwealth Games - along with the Isle of Man (are you saying that is a separate country as well???)

The UN is really the determinant of what is a country rather than a sporting body.

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