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Old 06-23-2012, 05:33 PM
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In relative terms they are still worse off than they were in 1992.
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Old 06-29-2012, 07:45 AM
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Annual funding for the Prince of Wales has risen by 11.3% BBC News - Prince Charles's public funding increases by 11.8%
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Old 06-29-2012, 08:02 AM
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Well it's the time of the year where you'll hear the same complains about the "freeloaders" royals. Can't wait to see the usual Daily Mail article about this.

Anyway if the annual funding has indeed risen, the tax bill and the part given to charities rose too. But of course it's far less juicy...

The Clarence House's annual report is always interesting to read btw :

http://www.princeofwales.gov.uk/cont...iew%202012.pdf
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Old 06-29-2012, 08:11 AM
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Annual funding for the Prince of Wales has risen by 11.3% BBC News - Prince Charles's public funding increases by 11.8%

The increase in annual government funding to C&C is more than fully accounted for by the increased cost of travel by air and rail for the prince and the Duchess of Cornwall to attend official engagements. The costs increased to £1,318,000, up from £1.08m.
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Old 06-29-2012, 09:42 AM
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What also won't be acknowledged by the critics is that the PoW and DoC conduct overseas visits at the request of the government. They don't just wake up one day and decide they'd quite like to go to South Africa next week. They go where they're told to go by the government and the Queen.
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What also won't be acknowledged by the critics is that the PoW and DoC conduct overseas visits at the request of the government. They don't just wake up one day and decide they'd quite like to go to South Africa next week. They go where they're told to go by the government and the Queen.
Exactly. If the government requests an increase in foreign tours, such as South Africa and the Middle East and unscheduled events like the death of another Saudi Crown Prince, costs will go up from year to year. Increases of this kind should not be looked at as a negative since they raise the profile and goodwill of the UK.
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Old 06-29-2012, 10:08 AM
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So charles pays more tax than what he gets from the taxpayer.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:17 AM
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And here we are. What a surprise !

Prince Charles' taxpayer funding increases by 11% in a year | Mail Online
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:23 AM
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You're being far too logical, bert. Aren't you outraged that Charles is getting more taxpayer money when it could be used to pay teachers (even though we have an oversupply of teachers) or nurses (even though we have an oversupply of nurses)?

Just think what every British man, woman and child could do with the 3.5p that we each give to cover these expenses.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:25 AM
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Sorry but I don't see the need for sarcasm? It's a news outlet reporting on a story, Charles' money has increased which is obvious beyond belief but it's a story.

There has been an additions to the Wales family, and William, Harry and Catherine have done a lot more work due to the Jubilee. It's not something surprising or newsworthy or even interesting but it's within the press' right to know about the monarchy's finances.
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One aspect, however, struck me as odd. If the Duke of Cornwall is a minor, 90% of the revenues go to the monarch and 10% go to the heir to the throne. That's if the DoC is a minor: not if the heir is a minor. e.g. suppose the heir is the monarch's grandson, and the Duke of Cornwall is the heir's younger uncle, a minor. Even though the heir is not a minor, he would only get 10% of the revenues, because the DoC is a minor!

Makes me think they might have made a mistake.
There's no mistake. It has always been the case the revenues from the Duchy of Cornwall accrue to The Sovereign automatically if there is no extant Duke. For example, when George V died in 1936 and Edward succeeded his father as King, the revenues accrued to him along with the income from the Duchy of Lancaster.

When George VI succeeded after the Abdication, the Duchy's revenues again accrued to him as his daughter could not hold the Dukedom in her own right as a female. However, when Elizabeth turned 18, it was agreed a portion of the Duchy's income would be paid to her as the heir presumptive.

The new Act formalizes these arrangements to ensure the heir has an income to carry out their duties, whether they are male or female. If the heir is a minor, it makes sense a limited percentage would be paid to them until they reach a mature age.
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I thought Daily Mail was a royalist newspaper. Yet they publish this headline. It gives the impression that Charles receives 20 million from taxpayers.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:38 AM
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Sorry but I don't see the need for sarcasm? It's a news outlet reporting on a story, Charles' money has increased which is obvious beyond belief but it's a story.

There has been an additions to the Wales family, and William, Harry and Catherine have done a lot more work due to the Jubilee. It's not something surprising or newsworthy or even interesting but it's within the press' right to know about the monarchy's finances

Your comment surprises me. You know perferctly that the DM picked up this story for some controversial purpose and their headline "well those Royal tours and all Kate's dresses don't come cheap" is, well, quite sarcastic itself.

I agree with you that Charles's money rise is perfectly understandable but i'm afraid that the DM, as usual at this time of the year, will not see some logic into that and will prefere to please the "kill the freeloaders" department.
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Old 06-29-2012, 11:42 AM
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Sorry but I don't see the need for sarcasm?...
I think the sarcasm is entirely legitimate. The Daily Mail publish this article in its current form to deliberately stir up its readers. They just want clicks on the article and comments at the bottom of it.

They choose not to mention that Charles raised £131 million for his charities last year, despite the longest and deepest recession since the 1930s. They choose not to explain that Charles, Camilla, William, Kate and Harry have undertaken more overseas visits, not because they fancied it, but because the government asked them to. They don't point out that their overseas trips were over longer distances travelled during those visits or that within the travel costs there is the inclusion of part of the costs of their Spring Tour in 2011 (to Portugal, Spain and Morocco). Or that Duchy Originals has had a record year and has donated profits of £3.5 million to charitable causes in the last 2 years.

The DM are being disingenuous and selective in trying to paint this as typical Charles and his freeloader/parasitic ways, which is unfair.
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Old 06-29-2012, 12:35 PM
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I guess that depends on how you read an article, guess I have a more unbiased view of DM.
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Old 06-29-2012, 01:31 PM
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I can see it both ways. Charles gets to deduct his charitable contributions on his Inland Revenue report, doesn't he?

Evidentally, it is easy to stir the pot with a true statement: "well those Royal tours and all Kate's dresses don't come cheap". They don't come cheap, do they?
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Old 07-02-2012, 08:30 AM
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http://www.royal.gov.uk/LatestNewsan...ances2012.aspx

Official expenditure of the Queen has gone down by 26% over the last few years, from £36.5m 3 years ago to £32.3m for 2011-12.

The full financial reports are available here - http://www.royal.gov.uk/LatestNewsan...alreports.aspx
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Old 07-02-2012, 09:08 AM
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Have William and Kate stolen Air Miles Andy's crown? Royal accounts reveal newlyweds spent £52,000 on ONE-WAY flight from Los Angeles to London | Mail Online
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:57 PM
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I remember reading about Eugenie going on her travels for her gap year. She took economy flights everywhere and stayed in hostels like other backpackers. The police protection officers, on the other hand, travelled in business class and stayed in 4 star hotels. It's part of their contract of employment. It makes no sense for the royals to be sitting in a completely different bit of the plane to their security.

The PPOs also get £150 cash per day when on overseas visits to cover their personal expenses.
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Royals and austerity

European royals get a (small) taste of austerity
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