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Old 06-16-2016, 09:27 PM
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I am so much enjoying learning about Royal Ascot from Diarist. I have always been fascinated by it, but I have recently become obsessed with it. I even have a pinterest board where I have put together outfits that I might would wear should I ever get to go.

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So, today, I was thinking about the passing of the glove at Ascot. It seems to be a generational thing.

Today, The Queen, The Princess Royal, The Duchess or Cornwall, Princess Alexandra, Princess Michael and the Duchess of Gloucester still wear gloves to Ascot.

Of course, it’s impossible to know if there are gloves in the odd handbag, and Getty searches can be incomplete, but here’s an unofficial list of the last time I could spot these ladies with gloves at Ascot. In no particular order.

Princess Haya – 2011 http://cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/158...cGgWOtBA%3d%3d
Sarah Ferguson- 2015 http://cache1.asset-cache.net/gc/477...IeBa360Q%3d%3d
Countess of Wessex – 2002 http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/521...2bEV0FK%2bA%3d
Serena Linley - 2013 http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/170...oT1ZUOiQ%3d%3d
Zara Tindall – 1989, (interestingly, Mom is gloves off in the photos I found, but Anne is carrying a large handbag that year. And I suspect, Moms find gloves a bit of a handful when with their bit of a handful). http://cache2.asset-cache.net/gc/521...hPl%2bXy6ZQ%3d
Diana, Princess of Wales, 1991 http://media.gettyimages.com/photos/...ure-id79730131
BTW – if you ever have an odd hour, old Royal Ascot photos are a treat to look through.
Is there a good source, other than Google, to find old Royal Ascot photos?
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Old 06-16-2016, 09:59 PM
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Many of the sites google takes their photos from.

Getty images is a great source always. Allows you to search specific years (my link shows 1997 for interest)
Royal Ascot 1997 Stock Photos And Pictures | Getty Images

Ascot's website has some great old footage and pictures
https://www.ascot.co.uk/royal-ascot-content-hub
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Old 06-16-2016, 10:34 PM
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Great to see the Duke and Duchess of Fife today; the Duke being a great-great-grandson of Edward VII. His wife wore the magnificent Fife tiara on her wedding day.
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Old 06-16-2016, 11:19 PM
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Many of the sites google takes their photos from.

Getty images is a great source always. Allows you to search specific years (my link shows 1997 for interest)
Royal Ascot 1997 Stock Photos And Pictures | Getty Images

Ascot's website has some great old footage and pictures
https://www.ascot.co.uk/royal-ascot-content-hub
Thanks. I have been wondering how to get to the getty images.
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:43 AM
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Off topic but I do miss Diarist's posts. They were wonderful and informative and, as I read various posts on various topics, I often find myself wishing she had never chosen to leave the board.

Thank you for posting her message to you Osipi.
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:44 AM
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Off topic but I do miss Diarist's posts. They were wonderful and informative and, as I read various posts on various topics, I often find myself wishing she had never chosen to leave the board.

Thank you for posting her message to you Osipi.

Oh I miss her too! Her posts were the very best.




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Old 06-17-2016, 08:23 AM
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FIRST CARRIAGE
The Queen
The Duke of Edinburgh
The Duke of Fife
Viscount Linley

SECOND CARRIAGE
Prince Michael of Kent
Princess Michael of Kent
Prince El Hassan bin Talal
Princess Sarvath El Hassan

THIRD CARRIAGE
Earl of Hopetoun
Countess of Hopetoun
Mr John Warren
The Lady Carolyn Warren

FOURTH CARRIAGE
Lieutenant Colonel Francis Lukas
Mrs Francis Lukas
Mr Stuart Janney
Mrs Stuart Janney
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Old 06-17-2016, 09:49 AM
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Great to see the Duke and Duchess of Fife today; the Duke being a great-great-grandson of Edward VII. His wife wore the magnificent Fife tiara on her wedding day.

It is curious that the Duchy of Fife can be inherited in female line. Why is that the case ?
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Old 06-17-2016, 09:55 AM
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It is curious that the Duchy of Fife can be inherited in female line. Why is that the case ?
There was a second creation in 1900 for the 1 Duke because of the absence of a male Heir. Meaning trhat the Title could pass to his oldest daughter ond if her male Heir would became the extinct to the male Issue of the second. daughter.
This is also the case for the Title Earl/Countess Mountbatten of Burma. It will go to her male Issue and they should became extinct to the male Issue of her sister.
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Old 06-17-2016, 09:58 AM
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It is curious that the Duchy of Fife can be inherited in female line. Why is that the case ?
Letters Patent created on 24th April 1900 for the second dukedom of fife were given special remainder that allowed the dukedom to pass to the daughters of the first Duke, in default of a son, and then to the male heirs of those daughters. It was created twice for the same person, more than likely because in 1900 Alexander Duke of Fife had two daughters and 33 year old wife with one stillborn son.
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Old 06-17-2016, 09:59 AM
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When Edward VII's daughter married into the Fife family she and her husband didn't have any sons and so Victoria issued specific LPs to allow for the female inheritance so the title would pass to her descendants and not to a collateral line. These new LPs only allow for inheritance through the daughters of Princess Louise and then their sons not through all subsequent female lines so if their is no male heir from Princess Louise's daughters - as has already happened from the elder daughter, then the title would follow the normal procedures for a title - a collateral line or extinct.
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Old 06-17-2016, 10:04 AM
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Thank you Osipi for your facts about ascot and personal observations
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Old 06-17-2016, 10:29 AM
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The Duke of York is with his ex-wife and Princess Beatrice today.

The Queen is wearing coral/pink,
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Old 06-17-2016, 10:40 AM
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His ex-wife unless I missed an elopement




Some of the others


Earl/Countess of Hopetoun, Lady Warren and her husband
http://www.gettyimages.ca/license/540904994


the queen, Prince Philip, Viscount Linley and duke of Fife
http://www.gettyimages.ca/license/540904760
http://www.gettyimages.ca/license/540904714
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FIRST CARRIAGE
The Queen
The Duke of Edinburgh
The Duke of Fife
Viscount Linley

SECOND CARRIAGE
Prince Michael of Kent
Princess Michael of Kent
Prince El Hassan bin Talal
Princess Sarvath El Hassan .... [snipped]
Thanks for information!
I am looking forward to seeing Serena's photos.
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Old 06-17-2016, 10:45 AM
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Those pictures are from last year. It's certainly not that sunny today.

Sarah is in cream and Beatrice in mint green;
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClKAGGWWYAABlW4.jpg

Camilla and Charles in the pre-parade ring ready for Garntop to walk through;
https://twitter.com/RoyalReporter/st...03083931672576
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Fergie is excited to greet the Queen at Royal Ascot | Daily Mail Online
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:29 PM
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I´m more than surprised to see the RF taking part in this day´s races, obviously with no cares in the world, after yesterday´s tragic event in Bristall!
Who cares about royal ladies wearing gloves or not on a day like this?!
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Old 06-17-2016, 12:33 PM
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i noticed that all the royal ladies wore long skirts (well below the knee) - i wonder if this is to help ascot reinforce their dress code which they 'politely reminded' everyone of some years ago.

also, i am confused as ato the protocol used for riding in the carriages: apparently the carriages order was:

carriage 1: Queen of the United Kingdom and her husband the Duke of Edinburgh and guests
carriage 2: Prince Charles of Wales and his wife, the Duchess of Cornwall and guests
carriage 3: Frederik and Mary accompanied by Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex, and Sofie Countess of Wessex
carriage 4: Duke and Duchess of Cambridge

https://www.instagram.com/p/BGrL9pUzaLn/

how come F&M didn't go in the second carriage with C&C (heirs to the throne), since they have the same rank, and instead went with E&S? it seems odd to put lord and lady vestey with C&C, having other heir couple attending.... if for some reason lord and lady vestey had to ride with C&C, why weren't F&M sat with the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge in their carriage, as they are the next in line to the throne?

a picture of mary meeting queen elizabeth at ascot:

http://www.billedbladet.dk/sites/bil...?itok=1Y-YMFub

is this the only picture there is of them together at ascot? i also wonder if this is the first time mary met the queen, at least publicly.

and some pictures with the cambridges:

http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/9...f8ffdaad1a270b
http://www.glamorous.pk/wp-content/u...ike-Twins2.jpg
http://fashion.hellomagazine.com/ima...y-ascot5-a.jpg
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i noticed that all the royal ladies wore long skirts (well below the knee) - i wonder if this is to help ascot reinforce their dress code which they 'politely reminded' everyone of some years ago.

a picture of mary meeting queen elizabeth at ascot:

http://www.billedbladet.dk/sites/bil...?itok=1Y-YMFub

is this the only picture there is of them together at ascot? i also wonder if this is the first time mary met the queen, at least publicly.
Speaking of dress codes, I am surprised that Princess Sarvath is not wearing a hat. I thought the dress code was strict. I am not criticizing, just wondering?
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