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Old 11-13-2017, 12:05 AM
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In one of the short videos (in one of the Daily Mail articles) one can watch as the Queen and Camilla both let their gaze drift sideways to take in Prince Philip who seems to be struggling to maintain an upright balance (the video cuts off at a crucial moment). It's obvious to me that he is seriously impaired. The Queen's tears may have had many reasons, in fact.

A very poignant moment for many, many reasons.

BTW sitting and standing are two different capacities (from a certain perspective). Sitting in a cart one drives could still be done, while prolonged standing is an effort. Both can exist side-by-side. Anyway, very gallant, and dedicated, for him to have made the effort. The Queen, too, seemed fragile on her feet. Time is passing.
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Old 11-13-2017, 12:27 AM
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In one of the short videos (in one of the Daily Mail articles) one can watch as the Queen and Sophie both let their gaze drift sideways to take in Prince Philip who seems to be struggling to maintain an upright balance (the video cuts off at a crucial moment). It's obvious to me that he is seriously impacted. The Queen's tears may have had many reasons, in fact.

A very poignant moment for many, many reasons.

BTW sitting and standing are two different capacities (from a certain perspective). Sitting in a cart one drives could still be done, while prolonged standing is an effort. Both can exist side-by-side. Anyway, very gallant, and dedicated, for him to have made the effort. The Queen, too, seemed fragile on her feet. Time is passing.
Yes, I too recognized that moment. Philip is a strong and dutiful man, but The Queen and Camilla took notice of his instability on the balcony. Can’t be easy for a man his age to stand in that damp cold weather either. There are good days and there are the not so good days.
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Old 11-13-2017, 01:21 AM
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I hope it isn't off-topic: is there any meaning for the number of remembrance poppies you wear? as I see some wore a couple of poppies (like the queen) while some only wore one.
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Old 11-13-2017, 02:38 AM
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I hope it isn't off-topic: is there any meaning for the number of remembrance poppies you wear? as I see some wore a couple of poppies (like the queen) while some only wore one.
Traditionally you wear one. But some people have taken to wearing multiple, to represent different people who served in the war.
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Old 11-13-2017, 03:06 AM
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[...] The Queen's tears may have had many reasons, in fact. [...]
I have seen the whole Remembrance Sunday on BBC One and I have not seen Her Majesty in tears.
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Old 11-13-2017, 03:11 AM
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I have seen the whole Remembrance Sunday on BBC One and I have not seen Her Majesty in tears.
I assume people mean this, where it looks like she is wiping away tears

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Old 11-13-2017, 03:22 AM
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I assume people mean this, where it looks like she is wiping away tears

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Some dust. The Queen looked every inch in control to me. No any tear.
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Old 11-13-2017, 04:02 AM
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I have seen the whole Remembrance Sunday on BBC One and I have not seen Her Majesty in tears.
Nobody is saying the Queen bawled her eyes out with a big ugly cry, but get a grip, the woman is as human as the rest of us and unlike most of the rest of us, she and Philip are among the diminishing number of WWII veterans. So yes, I do believe she did indeed allow a tear to fall and Prince Philip's condition may well have contributed. Not only did he lean against the wall, he coughed and hacked his way off the balcony after. It says a lot about the strength of will of the man that he would not even allow himself to cough during the ceremony.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...trip=all&w=711

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Old 11-13-2017, 04:05 AM
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Yes indeed, there is no missing the glimmer.

One does not have to be stone faced, to be calm and collected. There is a difference between tears and bawling.
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Old 11-13-2017, 04:35 AM
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What is more poignant at a remembrance service than HM, The Queen visibly moved to profound grief remembering those that have given their lives for their country? Does she not reflect and show the emotions that the nation itself feels as they remember those family members and friends that have given the ultimate sacrifice? Those pictures say it all. They give true meaning to what Remembrance Day is all about.

Very poignant also was the fact that the DoE didn't have to be there. He was visibly uncomfortable and the cold weather could not have done him any good at all. The fact remains that he wanted to be there. He felt he needed to be there. To him, a little bit of discomfort and perhaps aches and pains and coughs were nothing compared to what many of his friends of his generation went through and gave their lives.

These two people personified what Remembrance Day is really all about. Its not about them or their comfort or their positions and status but its about being able to be there in a peaceful nation because of those that have fallen to keep it that way and to remember them.
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Old 11-13-2017, 04:40 AM
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I am sorry. I am no native English speaker. Someone "in tears" meant "crying" to me, but apparently it has another meaning as well. No bad word about the Queen and the Duke: my apologies.
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Old 11-13-2017, 04:45 AM
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S'ok Duc. Sometimes the English language is the hardest one to perceive the meaning of something. Even for those that have English as their native tongue.

I wouldn't say that the Queen was "in tears" but more that she was visibly moved by emotion. A tear or two may have escaped but that happens sometimes when people are feeling a deep emotion.
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Old 11-13-2017, 06:17 AM
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In one of the short videos (in one of the Daily Mail articles) one can watch as the Queen and Sophie both let their gaze drift sideways to take in Prince Philip who seems to be struggling to maintain an upright balance (the video cuts off at a crucial moment). It's obvious to me that he is seriously impaired. The Queen's tears may have had many reasons, in fact.

A very poignant moment for many, many reasons.

BTW sitting and standing are two different capacities (from a certain perspective). Sitting in a cart one drives could still be done, while prolonged standing is an effort. Both can exist side-by-side. Anyway, very gallant, and dedicated, for him to have made the effort. The Queen, too, seemed fragile on her feet. Time is passing.
The Countess of Wessex was on a different balcony, and there were screens at the sides of the balconies, so I doubt she would have been able to see the DoE if she had glanced sideways.
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Old 11-13-2017, 06:21 AM
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The Duke of Edinburgh looked frail indeed. Even so the Duke of Kent, I must say. The Prince of Wales did not look frail but very aged. Of course the mood was quite sombre, as usual at Remembrance Sunday. The two sons of the Prince of Wales looked dapper in their uniforms, especially Harry with that bright red collar.
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I am sorry. I am no native English speaker. Someone "in tears" meant "crying" to me, but apparently it has another meaning as well. No bad word about the Queen and the Duke: my apologies.
I've always described this as leaking - as in, "Oh darn, now I am leaking" a tear or two when I did not intend to show emotion. Just a little feeling escaping out the eyes when not intended.

It's about the same volume as on a day when the allergies are really giving me heck. No lump in the throat, no choking back - just a little leak in the eye. And it happens for both happy and sad, for me.
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Old 11-13-2017, 01:15 PM
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Festival of Remembrance 2017-

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Old 11-13-2017, 03:06 PM
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thank you for the links and information

This picture is great
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/...trip=all&w=631

Sorry if this has been asked before, what uniform is Edward wearing?
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Old 11-13-2017, 03:12 PM
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I am sorry. I am no native English speaker. Someone "in tears" meant "crying" to me, but apparently it has another meaning as well. No bad word about the Queen and the Duke: my apologies.
Please note that 'in tears' was your phrase, not mine. It was you who used the phrase 'in tears'. I merely mentioned (in the quote of my text that you referenced) 'the Queen's tears' without qualifying. Just saying for clarification.

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The Countess of Wessex was on a different balcony, and there were screens at the sides of the balconies, so I doubt she would have been able to see the DoE if she had glanced sideways.
Correct. I mis-stated and have corrected my post to say the Queen and Camilla.
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