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Old 11-08-2009, 04:11 PM
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One question:

I know that the British commemorate their servicemen and women on the Sunday closest to Remembrance Day but... do you also have some acknowledgement on the day itself.

Here is Australia we will have a minute's silence at 11.00a.m. but then our major commemoration day is ANZAC Day not Remembrance Day.
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Old 11-08-2009, 04:54 PM
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We have a 2 minute silence at 11 a.m. on the 11th day of the 11th month. This is observed throughout the country, in towns, cities, banks, offices, train stations, shops etc. Most people observe the silence, but not all.
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Old 11-08-2009, 11:56 PM
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Pardon my ignorance, but I notice that the Earl of Wessex was wearing the poppy in his hat. Is that correct? Does it have some special relationship to the uniform he was wearing (why aren't the other royal men wearing the poppy in their hats?)?

And I notice that Sophie was wearing several poppies on her hat too (instead of wearing them on the coat as royals regularly do). I have never seen a royal lady doing that at this ceremony, and I find it very puzzling.
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Old 11-09-2009, 01:26 AM
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A couple of pictures here. Nice to see William and Harry in uniform and looking so handsome. Wonderfully touching ceremony.
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Old 11-09-2009, 02:49 AM
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This is just a question regarding the past, anyone knows why didn't Princess Margaret often attend the Remembrance Sunday? I could not recall her attending this solemn event in her later years at all.
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:33 AM
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I don't believe there is a rule that you must where the poppy on your uniform, or coat in Sophie's case. Prince Harry is also wearing one of the side of his hat.
Edward possible wore the poppies there because they wouldn't stay on his jacket.
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:37 AM
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Pardon my ignorance, but I notice that the Earl of Wessex was wearing the poppy in his hat. Is that correct? Does it have some special relationship to the uniform he was wearing (why aren't the other royal men wearing the poppy in their hats?)?

And I notice that Sophie was wearing several poppies on her hat too (instead of wearing them on the coat as royals regularly do). I have never seen a royal lady doing that at this ceremony, and I find it very puzzling.
I do not believe it is correct and has no special relationship to the uniform he was wearing, afaik. It is not supposed to be a fashion statement and was a highly inappropriate way for Sophie to wear the poppy of remembrance.
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:45 AM
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Old 11-09-2009, 10:50 AM
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Having done some research on the question of wearing a poppy, it seems that some regiments do wear them in their ceremonial caps (I googled "how should poppy be worn on uniform" and the question appears to have been asked by a number of servicemen/women). One correspondent simply replied that one should simply wear the poppy with pride and another described how it should be attached to the badge on the cap. Having said that, there may have been a change in the regulations/dress code. Presumably, if Harry has worn his poppy incorrectly, he will be reprimanded about it and if called to lay a wreath next year, we shall see if the poppy's position has been changed.
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Old 11-09-2009, 11:25 AM
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Princess Margaret used to participate in Remembrance Day. I believe once she became ill (I think it was the burning of the feet) she started to limit her public engagements.
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Old 11-09-2009, 11:28 AM
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It is always a pleasure to see Her Majesty with her grown-up grandsons attending the ceremony and Lady Thatcher alongside other Primer Ministers participating in the event.
Prince Edward and Countess of Wessex wore the poppies on their hats ..? It is rather odd thing to do.
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Old 11-09-2009, 11:49 AM
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Having done some research on the question of wearing a poppy, it seems that some regiments do wear them in their ceremonial caps (I googled "how should poppy be worn on uniform" and the question appears to have been asked by a number of servicemen/women). Presumably, if Harry has worn his poppy incorrectly, he will be reprimanded about it and if called to lay a wreath next year, we shall see if the poppy's position has been changed.
Just out of interest, I also googled and could only find sites pertinent to the various cadet forces, so could I ask you to send me the link? If worn on the cap for them, it is behind the cap badge, for some but not all, regiments it is behind the left chinstrap button

It is the first time, IB, that Edward has worn the poppy in his hat band and it would appear Harry has followed suit. It looked silly and inappropriate, especially compared to others in the same uniform as Harry who had it pinned to their lapel.
It is worth remembering that the poppy is not part of any military uniform, the RAF do not wear them on parade at all, nor do many of the regiments unless the Parade Commander has explicitly asked for it.

Many senior officers have no idea where to place a poppy, Mr S always asks me which side it goes on, when he is in civis.
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:07 PM
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Look at Getty images. Search Remembrance Sunday 2007. You can see Edward and William worn the poppys in the hat band.
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Old 11-09-2009, 12:12 PM
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Look at Getty images. Search Remembrance Sunday 2007. You can see Edward and William wore the poppys in the hat band.
Thank you Conny, you are right, as did Charles. It looks entirely wrong, IMO!

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Old 11-09-2009, 01:11 PM
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I'm speaking in correction, but in South Africa you wear the poppy on your hat by regimental badge if you are wearing a covering coat or jacket. Women wear the poppy on their hat if they are wearing a military badge or unrelated brooch on their lapel. If the brooch and poppy are worn together it is signifying that the wearing direct relation died in the conflict and served in that regiment. Sophie was wearing the Queen Mary Army Nursing Corps badge. Unless she has family who served and died in battle, wearing it on her hat is right.
Our prot officer thinks it is a highly odd question as far as she concerned it will be on your hat if you are outdoors especially at cenotaph ceremonies and Armistice memorials. She says that out of uniform you can wear it in any way you want. Just not on a red armband, that is a no - no :) Thanks Bernice,
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Old 11-09-2009, 01:53 PM
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Women wear the poppy on their hat if they are wearing a military badge or unrelated brooch on their lapel. If the brooch and poppy are worn together it is signifying that the wearing direct relation died in the conflict and served in that regiment. Sophie was wearing the Queen Mary Army Nursing Corps badge. Unless she has family who served and died in battle, wearing it on her hat is right.
I am not sure what a PROT is, it does not appear to be a term used by our military. You are correct regarding wearing the poppy above medals, if the medals you are wearing belonged to someone who has died in a conflict. You do not have to have served yourself, (hence the wearing of the poppy above war medals by widows/partners/children), but not a brooch or other military badge. If you do not wish to wear the poppy on the left, because of a military badge, it is worn on the right. It is worth noting that Sophie was not wearing a proper poppy, just an adornment on her hat.
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Our prot officer thinks it is a highly odd question as far as she concerned it will be on your hat if you are outdoors especially at cenotaph ceremonies and Armistice memorials. She says that out of uniform you can wear it in any way you want.
Perhaps things are different in other countries because here, many in the military, wear it on the lapel of their coat/jacket.
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:19 PM
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When I lived in Canada, in my distant past, I remember people wearing them on their lapels or jackets/coats. In the U.S. poppies used to be sold by organizations like the Veterans of Foreign Wars, but nobody I remember ever wore them...

The variability of the locations of the poppies worn by the Royals this year struck me as very strange.

But I was very pleased to see William and Harry taking their places with the family. Although Harry appeared to be swamped by his coat... (but this cougar did find him to be very handsome!)
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Old 11-09-2009, 05:20 PM
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Yes, it was nice to see serving soldiers laying their wreaths, alongside the rest of the royals. Harrys coat did seem a little on the large size, perhaps he has lost weight.
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Old 11-09-2009, 07:25 PM
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Same here. Many churches have a two-minute silence as part of a Remembrance observance on Sunday as well.


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Telegraph gets it wrong again!

Standing behind the motionless figure of the Queen, members of the Royal Family each had their personal losses to contemplate, not least the young princes who have both served in Afghanistan.

Remembrance Sunday: Prince William's note reflects the pain of many - Telegraph
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