Relationships between Members of the British Royal Family

[Rudolph]

I don’t think Catherine and Meghan are mortal enemies but nor do I think they’re besties.

Sometimes there’s power struggles when dealing with certain situations. But monarchy is a top down power struggle. End of.

 

[Terri Terri]

That's why these 2 over 30 year old MEN with wives and children/soon to be child need to have their OWN space, homes, staff and royal foundations. William is the future King. Harry will become like Andrew and Edward eventually.

It is sheer lunacy for anyone to think that they should be stuck together like little boys!

 

[Osipi]

Somehow, I can't imagine any of the British royal family in a power struggle between them. For the most part, they've grown up in the institution of the monarchy and know that how things are aren't going to change. I think it was pretty much emphasized when Philip retired from doing public duty that the rest of the family would be "Team Windsor".

As the family is in state of a soft transition right now between monarchs with Charles and Camilla stepping up, Harry and William and spouses stepping up into full time royal roles and the Queen bit by bit slowing down, there's bound to be conflicts and differences of opinion on how things should go but that is to be expected.

None of them, IMO, want to usurp another on the public stage and the reality is, the public stage is basically all we see of them. ?

 

[M. Payton]

Rudolph
Terri

Very much agree with both of you, these are intelligent, strong minded mature people here, not teenagers looking for the most followers. They both, be it William/Catherine and Harry/Megan lead very different lives all according to the way the firm works. Both duchesses are to darn smart to want a rift in the family, both have and will have children to raise, that takes priority first. Because of the positions of both William and Harry they know just what has to be done now and in the future......and their wives will follow the same.

Anyone believes other wise well there is the crown jewels for sale and I know the sellers.....

 

[kalnel]

You're calling her Yoko, in order to continue spreading hatred unnecessarily towards her. That is sad.
?

No, I'm calling her that because that's how she is being depicted in these stories. Like Yoko Ono, Meghan is from a different country and race, and she's (in rumors, at least) breaking up the Fab Four.

 

[Osipi]

Actually, I think that's a good analogy to use, kalnel, and I didn't find that it disparaged Meghan in any way. It fits in with the topic of discussion that Meghan is breaking up the "old gang" (which she isn't). John was as much in love with his Yoko as Harry is with his Meghan.

Love happens and it changes things.

 

[PrincessofEurope]

So much as been written recently about the Meghan/Kate relationship in the press and on social media and forums it is hard not to believe some truth in the matter. certainly Meghan has been a massive change for the family and this will cause adjustments form everyone. I think it was unrealistic to expect the "Fab Four" to always be a united four - William will be Prince of Wales and then King and his role along with Kate will shift. Harry on the other hand is not destined for these positions and can be more informal.

I think they way Meghan works is probably very different to how other royals work - and staff maybe need time too adjust.

Kate and Meghan have different backgrounds and different interests and whilst they maybe aren't the greatest of friends I think that is probably the extent of it. no great friendship or love but also no great rivalry or disagreement.

 

[Terri Terri]

Just because Catherine and Meghan married brothers doesn't mean they NEED to be BFFs.

And I have said it before...while Harry may have envied William as the more important brother and future King when he was young, he must be thanking God for being born the spare now! His children will have the benefit of being connected to royalty, but also be able to have more private lives than their first cousins if they choose (especially if Harry and Meghan choose no titles for them except for those as children of a duke)

If we think that the media and social media are atrocious now....can you imagine what it will be like 10 or 20 years from now? I shudder at the thought! George, Charlotte and Louis as well as their potential spouses are facing a horrendous future from a media standpoint IMO.

 

[AdmirerUS]

...If we think that the media and social media are atrocious now....can you imagine what it will be like 10 or 20 years from now? I shudder at the thought! George, Charlotte and Louis as well as their potential spouses are facing a horrendous future from a media standpoint IMO.

Actually IMO, if you look at how the press treats this issue of intra family relations, it does not get increasingly worse over time. It waxes and wanes. This one hates that one and then that abates and someone else is spatting. They even say it of the Queen, usually "expressing her displeasure" at someone or some other rot. It will come and go.

 

[Terri Terri]

But, compared to 20 years ago, you did not have the prevalence of fake news and social media that exists now. That is what I meant....given the explosion of social media trolls, cyber bullying and fake news....what will it be like years from now when the royal children become adults?

Yes, the UK media has been writing about royal feuds for ever BUT the cyber bullying and fake news have become global. With more and more people relying on digital news instead of printed newspapers, there will be growing pressure and competition for gossip and drama. There will always be a demand for gossip about the UK royals. And that demand keeps growing!

 

[Dman]

Radio Program:
Nice royal discussion on this media nonsense about Meghan and Catherine-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0001fct

The discussion starts at 11:06.

 

[Madame Verseau]

Looks like the royals are doing some pushback. Charles is suppose to have a picture of his escorting Meghan down the aisle in the public section of Clarence House

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celeb...s-meghan-markle-aisle-royal-wedding-portrait/

 

[Pranter]

There's one of Camilla and all the grandkids too. Sounds like family pics in the open areas are pretty normal.


LaRae

 

[Fros]

Looks like the royals are doing some pushback. Charles is suppose to have a picture of his escorting Meghan down the aisle in the public section of Clarence House

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/celeb...s-meghan-markle-aisle-royal-wedding-portrait/

This picture has been on display since summer. Some fans who visited Clarence House over the summer for tours commented on this picture a few months back it has nothing to do with fighting the recent negative stories.

One of the royal fans who took the tour was told by the guide that the picture was given to Charles by Meghan.

 

[Osipi]

I think its a trait of the British royal family to have lots of pictures out and around rooms. I love seeing pictures of the Queen at home and seeing which photographs are on display in the picture. I also wouldn't be one bit surprised if at Clarence House, Charles has kept pictures out that his grandmother had surrounding her. He's sentimental that way.

 

[Rudolph]

From Emily Andrews.

After we told exclusively how Harry and Meghan are moving to Windsor because they “don’t want to live next door to William and Kate” we can now unveil the “Fab Four’s” other issues, such as:

HARRY accusing Wills of trying to “wreck his relationship” with Meghan after he voiced concerns over her;

MEGHAN feeling rebuffed when she tried to befriend Kate;

RIVALRY between the brothers’ over palace appointments, and;

 HARRY’S desire to protect his wife at all costs after not being able to do so for Princess Diana.

Read more: Prince Harry went ‘mental’ accusing William of trying to ‘wreck relationship’ with Meghan Markle

 

[Osipi]

I think Ms. Andrews forgot the part about where William saw the Queen Mum in his grilled cheese sandwich and voices coming out of the toaster telling him that resistance to his brother is futile and he will be assimilated.

Its the Sun after all. Reports nonsense Daily without Fail

 

[Terri Terri]

The British tabloids are nothing less than inventive! I guess it is Kate and William's turn to be portrayed as the bad guys this week!

I can completely understand the family (not just William) would have been concerned about Harry's relationship with Meghan. I like Meghan but to be brutally honest - a biracial, divorced, American actress was NOT what ANYONE saw Prince Harry choosing as a marital partner.

Everyone expected him to marry a blue-eye, blonde aristocrat like his mother and ex-girlfriends. On top of that, the relationship developed very fast! Too fast as compared to how William had an almost 10 year relationship with Kate before deciding to marry her. And the royal family had seen the disastrous marriage of Charles and Diana as well as other members.

But if Harry felt that William was trying to destroy his relationship with Meghan but then Harry still turned around and ask William to be his best man and he accepted? That will make William a hypocrite which he is not!

And Kate rebuffing Meghan's friendship attempt - don't believe that in the least because Kate adores Harry and will never intentionally hurt Harry by doing that to the woman that Harry is in love with. And it would also show Kate in a bad light!

Competing for palace appointments? Not even going to take that seriously. William is the future king. End of.

Protecting Meghan in a way that he could not protect his mother? Nothing new there. BOTH William and Harry have done that for their wives.

 

[Rudolph]

“He will brook absolutely no criticism of Meghan — and he is so sensitive he often sees criticism or negativity where there isn’t any.”

William telling Harry to take his time and get to know her isn’t trying to ‘wreck’ his relationship, just brotherly advice. Seems like a major overreaction from Harry.

 

[M. Payton]

TerriTerri

Totally agree with each word you said, honest and thoughtful and Brilliant comment.

Whomever believes the tabloids is a fool for gossip is nothing but words put out there to hurt another by insecure people.

 

[Curryong]

Were courtiers listening at keyholes or were told of the quarrels between them by William and by Harry, whereupon they went scuttling off to the Sun to tell all, as a pre-Xmas treat? Because that's the only way EA could have known about that supposed incident, or any of the other interpersonal activity between members of the BRF. Quite obviously the tabloids want to carry the rivalry and quarrels narrative on until Christmas. It's ridiculous.

 

[rominet09]

The British tabloids are nothing less than inventive! I guess it is Kate and William's turn to be portrayed as the bad guys this week!

I can completely understand the family (not just William) would have been concerned about Harry's relationship with Meghan. I like Meghan but to be brutally honest - a biracial, divorced, American actress was NOT what ANYONE saw Prince Harry choosing as a marital partner.

Everyone expected him to marry a blue-eye, blonde aristocrat like his mother and ex-girlfriends. On top of that, the relationship developed very fast! Too fast as compared to how William had an almost 10 year relationship with Kate before deciding to marry her. And the royal family had seen the disastrous marriage of Charles and Diana as well as other members.

But if Harry felt that William was trying to destroy his relationship with Meghan but then Harry still turned around and ask William to be his best man and he accepted? That will make William a hypocrite which he is not!

And Kate rebuffing Meghan's friendship attempt - don't believe that in the least because Kate adores Harry and will never intentionally hurt Harry by doing that to the woman that Harry is in love with. And it would also show Kate in a bad light!

Competing for palace appointments? Not even going to take that seriously. William is the future king. End of.

Protecting Meghan in a way that he could not protect his mother? Nothing new there. BOTH William and Harry have done that for their wives.

I agree with you, now I HATE all the stories about the "rift" I Don't read them !

 

[Terri Terri]

“He will brook absolutely no criticism of Meghan — and he is so sensitive he often sees criticism or negativity where there isn’t any.”

William telling Harry to take his time and get to know her isn’t trying to ‘wreck’ his relationship, just brotherly advice. Seems like a major overreaction from Harry.

We don't agree most of the time but I could see William asking Hary to take his time shows William's concern. As a matter of fact, I would think that the whole royal family would say the same thing!

However, whether Harry reacted in the manner that the tabloids said he did..I think this is tabloid over dramatization to keep the made up fab four war going, especially since Harry and particularly Meghan are doing mostly private engagements.

 

[TLLK]

We don't agree most of the time but I could see William asking Hary to take his time shows William's concern. As a matter of fact, I would think that the whole royal family would say the same thing!

If this story is true, I wonder if William was approached by various family members to discuss this with Harry. Also, considering the divorces that occurred in the nineties influenced the next set of couples. I do believe that it is a reasonable expectation to request any member of the BRF to "take their time" when a courtship begins to become serious. It's a very great commitment and an entirely new way of life. William and Catherine, Peter and Autumn, Zara and Mike, Eugenie and Jack plus Edward and Sophie are examples of couples that had longer dating histories before committing to marriage.

 

[Dman]

This is the media’s payback. I thought this tension was gonna be solved when the tour kicked off, but evidently not.

The media want royal watchers to totally disregard everything the couple told us about how welcoming the Cambridge’s and rest of the family was towards Meghan. There’s a full attack on her and it’s being made to seem like she’s breaking up the close relationship between William and Harry.

From what we’ve been told from Harry and Meghan; the family embraced Meghan and been very supportive of the couple. With Charles helping with the weddings, walking Meghan down the aisle, to The Queen inviting Meghan on the royal train and spending an away-day of official engagements together.

Everyone knows the family spend some good quality time together privately.

I firmly believe there’s no major tension between these two couples.

 

[jacqui24]

We don't agree most of the time but I could see William asking Hary to take his time shows William's concern. As a matter of fact, I would think that the whole royal family would say the same thing!

However, whether Harry reacted in the manner that the tabloids said he did..I think this is tabloid over dramatization to keep the made up fab four war going, especially since Harry and particularly Meghan are doing mostly private engagements.

The only way that would be true is if Harry was planning to propose to Meghan at that time. Otherwise why would anyone say this?

And as much as I can see Harry getting serious early on, I can’t see him thinking about proposing to Meghan at that time.

As for the rest of that story, it didn’t make anyone look good. Oh and she might want to do some homework. Meghan was talking to her father before the wedding, in fact she talked to him they day after as well, so I’m not sure why William would get his nose bent out of joint over her not talking to Tom then and why Charles would try to get her to talk to Tom then. But I mean, just facts, that’s all.

 

[Curryong]

I believe that Harry and Meghan met in May 2016 though their regular dating probably didn't begin until that summer. That's eighteen months to two years before the wedding which IMO is masses of time for a couple to know whether they are suited and discuss any possible issues.

Not everyone would want to wait eight years before becoming engaged, especially not couples in their thirties. And no-one really knows what being a Royal is like until they actually become one and start living the life, and that applies to Kate, who dated for almost a decade before marriage, as much as it does Meghan.

 

[jacqui24]

I believe that Harry and Meghan met in May 2016 though their regular dating probably didn't begin until that summer. That's eighteen months to two years before the wedding which IMO is masses of time for a couple to know whether they are suited and discuss any possible issues.

Not everyone would want to wait eight years before becoming engaged, especially not couples in their thirties. And no-one really knows what being a Royal is like until they actually become one and start living the life, and that applies to Kate, who dated for almost a decade before marriage, as much as it does Meghan.

Exactly. Just because it takes one person x amount of time to decide to marry, it doesn’t take everyone that amount of time. And quite frankly to expect that of a 32 year old is a bit absurd.

 

[Madame Verseau]

Well it's Will and Kate's turn in the barrel. This alleged feud is spilling over to royal work

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...ard-meeting-attended-Prince-Harry-Meghan.html

So whatever personal feelings allegedly involved the future king and queen are completely unprofessional and bail on a Christmas party. You know it's bad when KP issues a denial. Whether true or not the media intends to re-open wounds (if any) for profit.

 

[Dman]

I don’t think Harry and Meghan would’ve gotten married with getting to know each other for some time first. His parents divorced and Meghan have been through a divorce. They don’t strike me as two expel who would rush into anything. Their courtship was done out of sight of the press.

I never seen Harry this happy before. Ever since they were dating; Harry has had a new pep in his step and a broad smile on his face. I believe the family is happy for him and very supportive of the couple.

Well it's Will and Kate's turn in the barrel. This alleged feud is spilling over to royal work

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.da...ard-meeting-attended-Prince-Harry-Meghan.html

So whatever personal feelings allegedly involved the future king and queen are completely unprofessional and bail on a Christmas party. You know it's bad when KP issues a denial. Whether true or not the media intends to re-open wounds (if any) for profit.

Again, the media are playing us for fools. We already know the couples take turns on attending events for their foundation. Sometimes together and sometimes separately.