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Old 07-31-2011, 11:16 PM
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Ok, Im sorry but there is not a definitive way that parents react to their children. My father was his mother's favorite and he was the youngest. My mother was her mother's favorite and she was the oldest. A parents favorite depends on personality and relationship, not birthing order and a rule book.
As for "Charles ignoring Harry" I never believed it because from what Ive seen pictures and videos spoke to the contrary. Harry was glued to Charles when they were forced to go out in public and view the cards and flowers left after Diana died. I dont know how anyone could forget seeing Charles holding hands with his son and come up with a lie, like he ignores him.
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Old 07-31-2011, 11:39 PM
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Ok, Im sorry but there is not a definitive way that parents react to their children. My father was his mother's favorite and he was the youngest. My mother was her mother's favorite and she was the oldest. A parents favorite depends on personality and relationship, not birthing order and a rule book.
We don't have to clash over something so tiny. Did not mean to upset you - if I have - I may be misreading your reply.

There are observed dynamics and its always a continuum with the whole gamut - but they do tend to clump. In my experience, the oldest born is usually special for both parents, the oldest born son of a woman (no matter birth order) is usually special, one way or another. The youngest born daughter usually has a special place in a father's heart. These are not absolutes - of course everyone is unique. Its just when you look at a continuum you see tendencies.
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:05 PM
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The Queen and the York Sisters

I was wondering what kind of a rapport the Queen shares with Princess Beatrice and Eugenie.

First their security was taken away. While most of the royal family was awarded the Queens diamond jubilee medal, the York sisters were left out.

To me it seems that the sisters are included in ceremonies like Trooping the color and royal weddings only because they are Prince Andrews daughters.
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I am sure very good like all the Queens grandchildren.
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First their security was taken away. While most of the royal family was awarded the Queens diamond jubilee medal, the York sisters were left out.
Have they even attended a formal event where we could see that they did not receive the Jubilee Medal?
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:35 PM
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Have they even attended a formal event where we could see that they did not receive the Jubilee Medal?
I checked on Wikipedia and tried to google as well.
While I understand Wikipedia may not be the most reliable source of information, every website I went through named the same recipients as I could find on Wikipedia.

IMO I'm sure they haven't been given the medal, since more often than not they aren't given the importance that her other grandchildren do.
( I know we can start a discussion on how they do nothing and blah blah, but that's another story )
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:46 PM
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Seems unlikely to me that they would not receive it since at past jubilees medals have been given to lesser royals such as Viscount Linley and the Gloucester girls.
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:50 PM
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I checked on Wikipedia and tried to google as well.
While I understand Wikipedia may not be the most reliable source of information, every website I went through named the same recipients as I could find on Wikipedia.
Peter Phillips, Zara Phillips, Viscount Severn and Lady Louise didn't receive the Jubilee Medal either.
The truth is, Princess Beatrice and Eugenie will have increasingly minor royal within the royal family, something akin to the Prince and Princess Michael of Kent.
They are highly unlikely to ever become full-time working royals (and neither do they have to), so naturally they are never going to receive the same kind of attention as more senior royals.

Regarding the security, I doubt that was the Queen's personal decision; there was an outcry from public that two young ladies who do not work for the country receive 24/7 security, costing taxpayers hundreds of thousands of pounds.

I am quite certain Her Majesty loves all her grandchildren equally.
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Old 03-27-2012, 02:53 PM
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I was wondering what kind of a rapport the Queen shares with Princess Beatrice and Eugenie.
One thing we need to remember too is there is two different aspects to the relationship between the Queen and the York girls. One is within the parameters of the Firm and the other on a personal, familial basis. As of right now both Beatrice are not working royals for the Firm but then again neither are Kate and William full time working royals. I'm sure that when the Queen gave her address at Parliament and acknowledged the love and support of her family, ALL her family was meant. I really don't think in any way that this Granny would play favoritism with her grandchildren.

To be honest, I don't think I've read anywhere about any of the family receiving the Diamond Jubilee medal or have even seen it. Now I'm curious.
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Harry wore his on his recent tour of the Caribbean.
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I know that Princess Michael of Kent isn't exactly the most loved family member, but I was wondering what Prince Michael, Lord Frederick and Lady Gabriella's relationship is with the rest of the family, does anyone know that?
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I know that Princess Michael of Kent isn't exactly the most loved family member, but I was wondering what Prince Michael, Lord Frederick and Lady Gabriella's relationship is with the rest of the family, does anyone know that?
All I know is that Prince Michael was one of the favorite cousins of the Queen when he was young.Don't know for now...

One of the other things is that Prince Michael is in very good terms with his siblings and first cousins from Europe as they often compete who is going to tell the wickedest joke...when they are not together they do it via e-mail on almost daily basis!
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How do we know who received the Jubilee medal by the way? I am curious to know who the recipients are?

It is a bit of a bummer if Beatrice and Eugenie did not recieve it and William and Harry have, but then again the Wales boys are the children of the Prince of Wales, they are more likely to be doing duties. The Princesses don't really do engagements, and if Charles has his way, will not be doing them at all. I can't see Peter, Zara, Louise or James ever getting the medal. The Wessex kids are far too young, obviously, and Peter and Zara aren't really "Royal".

I am sure the cousins all get on well in private. We have seen many images of them together joking. The older four appear to be slightly closer, mainly due to their similarity in age. The Yorks have just finished university, whereas the older 4 have grown up and have jobs etc. I always think it is a shame how much younger Louise and James are (something that obviously could not have been helped), but they will never likely be as close to their cousins as the other 6 were when they were younger. The fact that the older 6 visited Philip in hospital at Christmas without Louise and James was a bit of a bummer.
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:19 PM
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Actually, it made perfect sense to me that Louise and James did not get to visit Prince Philip in the hospital. At their young age, it might have been too scary for them to understand.
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I know that Princess Michael of Kent isn't exactly the most loved family member, but I was wondering what Prince Michael, Lord Frederick and Lady Gabriella's relationship is with the rest of the family, does anyone know that?
Freddie seems close to the York girls, Beatrice especially. He's also been close to William when they both were at Eton (not sure how their relationship is nowadays). It seems that Freddie gets along very well with the family in general.
Gabriella once said that she and Freddie were close with William and Harry when they were children at KP, but I have no further info about Ella's relationships to the rest of the family.

As for Princess Michael - most of the old lines a la "the Queen thinks she's too grand for them" etc. are quoted wrongly and/or come from very old bios and it's not sure if they were ever true. I heard that Princess Michael in fact had a friendly relationship to Princess Diana in the last years of her life and that, meanwhile, the Queen enjoys her company and defended her after the "go back to the colonies" story in private. The Queen didn't believe that she said that, invited her to Ascot after the incident and gave her advices. It's mainly the media who rehashes the portrait of "Princess Pushy" in my opinion and in the opinion of some folks who should be in the know.

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All I know is that Prince Michael was one of the favorite cousins of the Queen when he was young.Don't know for now...

One of the other things is that Prince Michael is in very good terms with his siblings and first cousins from Europe as they often compete who is going to tell the wickedest joke...when they are not together they do it via e-mail on almost daily basis!
I think this hasn't changed. The Queen was always very fond of Michael and I'm fairly sure she still is. Nice story about the wicked jokes!
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I think this hasn't changed. The Queen was always very fond of Michael and I'm fairly sure she still is. Nice story about the wicked jokes!
Princess Elizabeth of Yugolsavia told this story in an interview when asked about relationships with British royals...They all compete who will tell the funniest joke and when they are not around they do it via mail on regular basis...

She also said that Prince Charles enjoys those wicked jokes too,but that he doesn't always participate as he doesn't know(or maybe doesn't bother) how to communicate through computers and internet...

When asked how does he communicate with people she said through secretary...or by phone with ones he is close to!
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How do we know who received the Jubilee medal by the way? I am curious to know who the recipients are?

It is a bit of a bummer if Beatrice and Eugenie did not recieve it and William and Harry have, but then again the Wales boys are the children of the Prince of Wales, they are more likely to be doing duties. The Princesses don't really do engagements, and if Charles has his way, will not be doing them at all. I can't see Peter, Zara, Louise or James ever getting the medal. The Wessex kids are far too young, obviously, and Peter and Zara aren't really "Royal".
The Duke of Cornwall and The Princess Anne both received The Queen's Coronation Medal in 1953 when they were four and two years old respectively. James and Louise are not too young to receive the Jubilee Medal, but whether or not they have may not be known for many years.
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All I know is that Prince Michael was one of the favorite cousins of the Queen when he was young.Don't know for now...

One of the other things is that Prince Michael is in very good terms with his siblings and first cousins from Europe as they often compete who is going to tell the wickedest joke...when they are not together they do it via e-mail on almost daily basis!
That's very interesting, I never knew that the Queen was so fond of Prince Michael.
Also I can just imagine him being a joker

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Freddie seems close to the York girls, Beatrice especially. He's also been close to William when they both were at Eton (not sure how their relationship is nowadays). It seems that Freddie gets along very well with the family in general.
Gabriella once said that she and Freddie were close with William and Harry when they were children at KP, but I have no further info about Ella's relationships to the rest of the family.

As for Princess Michael - most of the old lines a la "the Queen thinks she's too grand for them" etc. are quoted wrongly and/or come from very old bios and it's not sure if they were ever true. I heard that Princess Michael in fact had a friendly relationship to Princess Diana in the last years of her life and that, meanwhile, the Queen enjoys her company and defended her after the "go back to the colonies" story in private. The Queen didn't believe that she said that, invited her to Ascot after the incident and gave her advices. It's mainly the media who rehashes the portrait of "Princess Pushy" in my opinion and in the opinion of some folks who should be in the know.
I too have a feeling that most of those rumours about Princess Michael are fabricated by the press. She seems like a nice woman.


Thank you both for the very informative answers
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Peter has the Golden Medal, too
You can it see here Celebrations on Jubilee Day - DWF15-246907 - Rights Managed - Stock Photo - Corbis
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Thanks for the image Conny. I imagine Peter possibly has received the medal, he just has not had an occasion to wear it. Is there a list of receivers? Has Zara got the Golden Medal?
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