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Old 11-28-2018, 01:58 AM
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This story baffles me how and what could have Meghan done at a 3 year old s dress fitting that Kate would cry ? Can’t think of any scenario at all !
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Old 11-28-2018, 07:49 AM
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Whoever is leaking at KP the stunt is backfiring

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.exp...eam-meghan/amp

Meghan and Kate fans are fighting and it can get ugly really fast. The blabbermouth apparently didn't count on social media blowback. No one looks good.
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:18 AM
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At the end of the day, that’s the media’s goal. They want some sparks going on social media. They also want a response from the royals and Palace.
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:23 AM
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This has absolutely NOTHING to do with either Kate or Meghan! This is an imaginary 'war' created by the media and social media!

Unfortunately, there are those who believe this drivel wholeheartedly! I hope the security forces are keeping an eye on this because this kind of fanaticism can lead to these so-called 'fans' acting in an extreme way to the point that either Kate and Meghan will be targeted and can get hurt!
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:25 AM
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Whoever is leaking at KP the stunt is backfiring

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.exp...eam-meghan/amp

Meghan and Kate fans are fighting and it can get ugly really fast. The blabbermouth apparently didn't count on social media blowback. No one looks good.

If you are old enough to remember Diana and Sarah and what the media made of them... that was the same and no social media back then.


It is apparent that Harry loves Kate as a very dear sister, so why shouldn't Meghan? These two don't appear to dislike each other when they are together and it is clear that Kate, who has married the higher ranked brother, has already 3 children und has endured these media games for most of this century now, is not one to push her sister-in-law down. Whatever she is feeling (and I think she likes Meghan), she is far too professional to let it show. While Meghan surely is really thankful for every tip she gets from the much more experienced Kate.



A good example IMHO that both are well aware of these games but decided to not play a part they didn't choose is how they coordinate their clothes. When both have a public engagement at the same time, they try to wear clthes as similar as possible to make such ugly comments nearly impossible, for you cannot critizise one when the other does the same. Plus I think Kate is the one of the "Fab Four" who has the most understanding for Meghan, because she's been here, done that.
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Old 11-28-2018, 08:30 AM
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Exactly! This is NOT FUNNY ANYMORE! These are people's lives! When one of these fanatics hurt either Kate or Meghan, then what?
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Old 11-28-2018, 09:20 AM
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As royal watchers, we all know, that live at a court can be full of intrigues and the ground there is sometimes extremly slippery - And in England especially with it's crazy press.


Meghan should/could have known this and if I understand it right, then William married Kate that late, because he wanted her well prepared for the hell of public attention awaiting her.


It is, what it is.
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:20 AM
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Exactly! This is NOT FUNNY ANYMORE! These are people's lives! When one of these fanatics hurt either Kate or Meghan, then what?

Then the press has real stories and not just clickbait. But you are all right to hope that Meghan doesn't care.

As for fanatics, few are so resourceful to be able to come near the Royals and they have guards with them all the time who look out and surely spot strange behavior.
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Old 11-28-2018, 11:59 AM
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I agree - 'keyboard warriors' are essentially harmless in reality, despite being poisonous on the 'interweb'...
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Old 11-28-2018, 12:17 PM
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That may be so! But all it takes is ONE who isn't so harmless for a tragedy to occur.
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Old 11-28-2018, 12:22 PM
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Then the press has real stories and not just clickbait. But you are all right to hope that Meghan doesn't care.

As for fanatics, few are so resourceful to be able to come near the Royals and they have guards with them all the time who look out and surely spot strange behavior.
This is true. Meghan has stated in an interview before the engagement that she's learned to turn off the "noise". I don't think she's tuning into tabloid and press articles every morning to see what they're saying about her. If there's something that she needs to know, her staff or security will advise her.

Its everyday people like we are that are eating up the tabloid gossip and keeping it alive by musing over tidbits here. We're the target audience of this kind of media. They know well that Meghan, herself, will not react or respond in any way but the general public does. It is their bread and butter on the table. Their kind of headlines are the kind I pass on.

Meghan's security is very well trained and alert at all times and it would be extremely difficult for anyone to get past them to do harm to Meghan.
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Old 11-28-2018, 01:30 PM
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The truth of the matter really is that we will never really know what's happening deep inside the relationship between the Cambridges and the Sussexes or within the RF as a whole or at KP unless something happens that can't be hidden like a divorce or one of those four speaks to the media and we all know that's never going to happen. So, even though we all have our perceptions and biases, there's really no way to know who's right and who's wrong.

So much of this really is perception and that's different for every single one of us based on our own experiences. Where some people find Meghan to be driven and determined and a go-getter who hit the ground running (by the way, can I just say how much I despise that particular phrase) others will see her as pushy, demanding, exhausting, and divisive. Where some see Kate as poised, well-mannered, and overtly suitable as a future queen, others will see her as a social climber and a snobby schemer. It's all in perception and you don't have to be around here very long to realize which posters like which duchess and which posters strongly dislike which duchess. Rarely do I see posters fall in that in between area where they like both. Almost all posters seem to be inherently drawn to one or the other and have strong feelings about why that particular duchess can do no wrong or at least rarely set a foot wrong.

We definitely are the media's target audience here but as much as we all have our own impressions of Meghan and Harry, as well as the rest of the RF, they really are just the impressions we have and nothing more and definitely nothing to get so defensive and worked up about.
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Old 11-28-2018, 01:49 PM
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We definitely are the media's target audience here but as much as we all have our own impressions of Meghan and Harry, as well as the rest of the RF, they really are just the impressions we have and nothing more and definitely nothing to get so defensive and worked up about.
Very, very well put, Heather. Its our differences in perception that make the conversations here so much more interesting.
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Old 11-28-2018, 02:47 PM
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..... It's all in perception and you don't have to be around here very long to realize which posters like which duchess and which posters strongly dislike which duchess. Rarely do I see posters fall in that in between area where they like both. Almost all posters seem to be inherently drawn to one or the other and have strong feelings about why that particular duchess can do no wrong or at least rarely set a foot wrong....
I agree with most of your post with the exception of the snippet quoted above. While both Meghan and Catherine have their ardent fans on these boards, I would say that my observation is that the majority of posters fall somewhere in the middle, giving equal or almost equal applause and criticism depending on the situation. I'd include myself in that somewhere-in-the-middle group since like many of the posters I've been watching royals for a very long time, have seen "stars" come and go, and am really more interested in royalty in general than any particular royal. Just go outside the BRF threads and you get a much better picture of where posters' interests lie.

Aside from that, I think you're right on the mark.
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Old 11-28-2018, 03:03 PM
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Here's Kate being asked about her kids prepping for Xmas and the new Sussex baby.


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Old 11-28-2018, 05:00 PM
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what we know is that there were rumours on tension between william and harry. we didn't hear about this tension beforehand. they seemed to have grown quite close, specially following diana's death. then came kate, and she has been in the family for 7 years, yet we didn't hear about tension caused by her appearance. now harry marries meghan, meghan enters the picture and all of a sudden we hear about 'tensions'. then there are a range of staff resignations of people working for harry and meghan. i mean... it is hard for the media not to assume that something about meghan has upset the balance.

i guess only time will tell what is happening, or maybe not. kate is well trained, professional and reserved, whilst meghan is too smart to let this show. however, these reports come from a variety of sources, some more serious, some less serious, so it is not that it was reported by just one media outlet.
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Old 11-28-2018, 05:10 PM
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What staff resigned? ELF? Who announced his retirement LAST YEAR before Meghan even moved to London? Samantha who was retiring but was asked by the Queen to transition the Sussexes and remain for 6 months, yet still is with time after many more months?
Or was it 'Melissa' the 'super important, super exclusive palace aid, who was integral for the planing of their wedding in May' but apparently only joined the staff in April? Melissa who despite being described by the trash mags as 'Meghan's closest aid' has NEVER been seen or heard of before?
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Old 11-28-2018, 05:14 PM
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I didn't believe in the rumours that there's bad blood between Meghan and Catherine for one second. The descriptions of Meghan bossing Catherine around so much to the extent that she cried doesn't match the impression I get of their characters at all. Both women seem sensible and professional enough not to cause such a ruckus over the fitting of a dress. I can believe that it was somewhat a struggle to get Charlotte to stand still for her dress fitting because she's a very lively and adventurous child, though it wouldn't cause any rift or argument between Meghan and Catherine.
The Sun seem to be particularly keen on damaging Meghan's image and reputation. I noticed they also did this with Catherine when she was newly married to William.
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Old 11-28-2018, 05:22 PM
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Yes, Meghan is obviously the throne in the eyes of certain media circles - the narrative is fully out there. It's pathetic how transparent they are. But it should be mentioned that the RRs are so emboldened now that they are not even pretending to implicitly hint at their 'views'. This is not the twisted mind of a few - there is a clear agenda. One that is deemed to be lucrative as all of it plays into the notions of 'othering'. Roles have been handed out the second Harry dared to get upset by the press' abuse of his partner.
do you mean that they are doing this now, several months after H&M married because of a warning harry issued years ago? that seems like a stretch of someone's imagination. as if all media outlets coordinated to make sure they tell the same story, at the right time based on something that happened years ago, as if they did not have other important things to report on, such as maybe eugenie's wedding, charles' 80th birthday or even the tour down under the sussexes did. shortly they will have all the christmas celebrations of the royals, so they are not lacking in photo-ops and major events this year to need to create audience.
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Old 11-28-2018, 05:28 PM
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From what I recall of the Kate crying at Charlotte's fitting story, there was no actual mention that Meghan was present. It did say this was shortly after Louis's birth and Kate was more emotional at the time. While I agree it could have been due to Charlotte acting up, I thought it could have been something as simple as seeing Charlotte in the dress. Something along the lines of - Oh, you look so pretty (or cute) and the tears start.
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