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Old 09-04-2018, 08:06 AM
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I don't know what to believe or what not. I read in an article that apparently Beatrice and Eugenie doesn't get along with Kate
You can’t believe everything you read. A lot of it is untrue.
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Old 09-04-2018, 10:14 AM
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When we see them together they appear to get along just fine. I wouldn't believe tabloids.


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Old 09-04-2018, 11:13 AM
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Charles and his sons certainly have different approaches to doing royal business and seem to have given their offices at CH and KP different marching orders in regards to scheduling/selecting events and press relations. It seems it would be entirely normal for a Dad to sometimes grumble “I don’t know why they do that” to staff about decisions his kids make that he would not regarding the “family business.” And perhaps the staff of CH and KP feel tension between the two approaches (very likely they would feel it more keenly than their bosses, since they are the ones tasked with coordinating details between offices when applicable) in ways that royal reporters pick up on.

BUT that doesn’t mean Charles and his sons don’t get along. It doesn’t mean they don’t respect each others’ work. It certainly doesn’t mean they don’t love each other or enjoy each others’ company.
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Old 09-04-2018, 02:45 PM
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When we see them together they appear to get along just fine. I wouldn't believe tabloids.


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Old 09-04-2018, 05:16 PM
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Charles and his sons certainly have different approaches to doing royal business and seem to have given their offices at CH and KP different marching orders in regards to scheduling/selecting events and press relations. It seems it would be entirely normal for a Dad to sometimes grumble “I don’t know why they do that” to staff about decisions his kids make that he would not regarding the “family business.” And perhaps the staff of CH and KP feel tension between the two approaches (very likely they would feel it more keenly than their bosses, since they are the ones tasked with coordinating details between offices when applicable) in ways that royal reporters pick up on.

BUT that doesn’t mean Charles and his sons don’t get along. It doesn’t mean they don’t respect each others’ work. It certainly doesn’t mean they don’t love each other or enjoy each others’ company.
And of course we see the same kind of 'leaked info.' that BP and CH are feuding - which translates to their respective staffs are feuding, not the actual Royals. The impression I get is that staff comes up with their notion of how it should go, William may not agree and says so, and his father and/or the Queen back William to the chagrin of staff.

There is evidence that Charles has a relationship with his grandchildren, if the tabloids cared to look - the tree house at Highgrove, for example, just as there is evidence that Charles was an involved parent when William and Harry were growing up - if the tabloids looked, but neither furthers the narrative they have built up, thus they are blind to the meaning of those bits because it doesn't further their fiction.
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Old 09-05-2018, 05:21 PM
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So apparently Clarence House responded to these rumors, which is pretty unusual. Naturally, Vanity Fair (as seen below) and Cosmopolitan are skeptical of this response, sigh. I'm not sure how VF doesn't understand why CH responding to these rumors is different than BP not commenting on the Markle situation. For one thing, this directly involves Charles, Harry and William - I'm sure CH is disgusted with the media's being out for blood with regards to their relationship, almost seeming to want father and sons to be "on the outs". For another, BP is trying to protect Meghan; rebuking her father in the media will only encourage him as he laps up all the attention.


**This is pretty unusual behavior from the palace, and perhaps indicates that they take this sort of claim as a gravely serious matter. Though it seems interesting that they have refused to comment throughout the stressful Thomas and Samantha Markle saga, which has dominated headlines for so long, yet decided to comment on this report, which most would have taken with a grain of salt to begin with and which did not receive a great deal of traction (though now, thanks to the palace’s comment, it will receive a lot more!). Sometimes—as Kim Kardashian did when she commented on the Drake affair rumors this weekend—a strongly worded denial, especially from someone who doesn’t often deliver them, can naturally have the opposite of its intended effect: why is this the one story that you felt it necessary to debunk?***


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Old 09-05-2018, 05:32 PM
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So this is apparently what's been said:

Clarence House told Express.co.uk the claims are “complete fiction.”

Hardly a response.
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Old 09-05-2018, 05:32 PM
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Omid and Emily are supposed to address some of the crazy rumors and articles about the BRF this coming Friday during their On Heir Podcast.


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Old 09-05-2018, 05:35 PM
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Once again, it just shows that media (even Vanity Fair and Cosmopolitan) has absolutely no clue about how the BRF does things, which palace is associated with which royals among a lot of other misconceptions they may have.

No one does their homework anymore and now it seems like even the more respectable publications are depending on the tabloids for information. Go figure.
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Old 09-05-2018, 07:08 PM
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Once again, it just shows that media (even Vanity Fair and Cosmopolitan) has absolutely no clue about how the BRF does things, which palace is associated with which royals among a lot of other misconceptions they may have.

No one does their homework anymore and now it seems like even the more respectable publications are depending on the tabloids for information. Go figure.

Lazy, lazy reporting. Both of these mags didn't bother to do their own research, they just pretty much summarized what others said (others who seem to have an agenda, I think). When I was reading that, I was like "um, that's not the Palace", lol.
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Old 09-05-2018, 08:11 PM
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I wonder if the only reason that the Express got a response is because it probably has closer contacts with the CH press office. The Daily Beast sent an e-mail which is easier to ignore than a phonecall or message from someone known personally to the media team. The response is not exactly on the scale of Harry's letter to Meghan, in fact its hardly a response.
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Old 09-05-2018, 08:24 PM
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It is lazy reporting because a royal reporter should know which royal is associated with Buckingham Palace, Clarence House and Buckingham Palace but at the same time it really makes no sense that there are three administrative / communications groups for the British Royal Family and IMO reflects relationship issues among members of the BRF. I certainly don't think that they hate each others guts but having separate offices is .
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Old 09-05-2018, 08:41 PM
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All good points. I’ve seen many times the implication that Charles is impatient to be King - um, that means he would want his mother to die, which is just...no.
Many, many, many years ago, well before the forums, an interviewer asked Prince Charles exactly that. Did it bother him that he had waited so many years and, with the longevity of QM, it looked like he'd be waiting a few more decades before he could become the king?

Charle's answer was that since his becoming king was dependent on the death of his mother, he was hardly in any hurry to see his mother die. It was a rare interview and perhaps explains Charles feelings pf intense antipathy towards royal correspondents and tabloid writers in general.

There was an incident could easily have given rise to some speculation and actually did. Somebody had the inspired notion that the Offices of BP, CH and KP should be consolidated to ensure that everyone was on the same page, knew what everyone else was doing and that communication from the BRF was all in sync. It was a miserable failure for no other reason than the people who ran those offices found it impossible to work together and were jockeying for positions of importance.

As to the VF wondering about a response from CH about the gossip and the lack of response regarding the 'Markle's', they had already answered their own question since they were questioning CH and know that KP is where they should expect to get a response.

I think they must be a little dim, the overwhelming sound of silence is deafening. Not even a "no comment".
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Old 09-05-2018, 09:10 PM
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That trial of the three Press Offices coordinating in 2014 was certainly a miserable failure, but can anyone remember when it was and why that the Prince of Wales decided to set up a different media unit for himself at St James Palace, where he was then living?

Was it as a result of the separation from Diana, the Mark Bolland years or what? Because once Prince Charles split from the BP operation and set up separate offices it was inevitable, IMO, that his sons would want to do the same. And that implies, I think, a certain mistrust of those aides like Bolland in charge at St James/Clarence House, by Charles's sons.
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Old 09-05-2018, 09:55 PM
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I think that it was before Mark Bolland, and while not explicitly stated, was probably related to the War of the Wales. I will try and find a source but IIRC it was something along the lines that Charles felt that he needed his own organization, separate from Buckingham Palace, to properly serve his needs.
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Old 09-05-2018, 10:27 PM
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Thanks Queen Claude. I've always been quite intrigued by Charles insisting that he wanted his own media unit separate from BP. And after all, it was that which started the three disparate offices, which do try and top each other.
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Old 09-06-2018, 09:04 PM
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Now HERE is an article worth reading......such a lovely piece. I really adore Charles' relationship with his sons, and I admit - I've always had a soft spot for Harry since he was a tiny lil red-headed scamp. I remember reading after the wedding that all - or most - of the ill-will that the public had toward Charles since last year (the 20th anniversary of Diana's death) pretty much melted away. From the way he walked Meghan down the aisle, to his tenderness with Daria......I think people saw people saw the real man, not the one demonized by some of the media.



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After spending nearly a week of their summer holiday at Mey and a brief weekend at Balmoral with the Queen and the Duke of Edinburgh, the Sussexes have fallen in love with the country, much to the delight of the Queen and Prince Charles, who is hoping Harry and Meghan may want to get even more involved with the castle in the future. “I think Charles might want Harry, if he is interested, to oversee the operations of Mey when the time is right,” reveals a source.

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“The wedding was a real turning point,” the family member continues. “Charles showed so much love towards Harry and Meghan, and I think Harry will be eternally grateful to his papa for stepping in and giving Meghan’s hand in marriage. The bond between them is very close.”

According to the source, the trio spent evenings dining at the castle, reading, walking dogs, and talking. “Charles has been very supportive of Meghan and everything she is going through with her own father. He’s got a real soft spot for her and thinks she’s the best thing to have happened to Harry.”
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Old 09-07-2018, 03:20 AM
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According to most Royal reporters Harry and Meghan haven't been to Balmoral yet.

I also would never consider Katie a good source as she has been wrong countless times. I am also suspicious of this new Charles biographer that keeps popping up in articles lately. She keeps making unsubstantiated claimed about the Sussexes (their new dog is called Oz, her son has a dog that is a twin of Bogart - Meghan's old dog) while promoting her new Charles biography.

I have no doubt Charles' relationship with Harry and Meghan is wonderful and has strengthend especially due to all the challenges during the wedding but everything else seems much more conjecture.

The part about Harry looking after the Castle of Mey in the future simply because they spent a week there...seem more in line with the recent stories we've had of the Sussexes being gifted multiple homes since their wedding.
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Old 09-07-2018, 03:57 AM
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One thing we do know that is a fact is that the Castle of Mey will never be in the listing of potential properties for Harry and Meghan. In July 1996, The Queen Mother made the property, the policies, and the farm over to the Queen Elizabeth Castle of Mey Trust, which has opened the castle and garden to the public regularly since her death. Charles is presently the president of the Trust and perhaps it would be a role that he may pass on to Harry.

I have no doubt that there is a warm relationship between Charles, Harry and Meghan and to be honest, I don't trust any report that comes out about their private relationships because they do whatever they can to keep it under the radar. Sometimes we'll get a glimpse but we'll never see the entire picture.
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Old 09-07-2018, 05:22 AM
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One thing we do know that is a fact is that the Castle of Mey will never be in the listing of potential properties for Harry and Meghan. In July 1996, The Queen Mother made the property, the policies, and the farm over to the Queen Elizabeth Castle of Mey Trust, which has opened the castle and garden to the public regularly since her death. Charles is presently the president of the Trust and perhaps it would be a role that he may pass on to Harry.

I have no doubt that there is a warm relationship between Charles, Harry and Meghan and to be honest, I don't trust any report that comes out about their private relationships because they do whatever they can to keep it under the radar. Sometimes we'll get a glimpse but we'll never see the entire picture.
O/T question what would be the benefit of being the president of the trust in the future? other than keeping it in the family would there be any financial benefit to Harry?
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