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Old 12-27-2017, 09:17 PM
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Is there a thread for the relationship between Kate and Meghan?
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:44 PM
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Is there a thread for the relationship between Kate and Meghan?
I’d assume that would just be covered in this thread.
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Old 12-27-2017, 09:45 PM
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Not that I've seen.


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Old 01-13-2018, 04:47 PM
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Is there a thread for the relationship between Kate and Meghan?
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I’d assume that would just be covered in this thread.
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Old 01-13-2018, 07:09 PM
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Simple:

They will either get along or they won't.

One week the media will report them as 'best friends' and the next they will be at each other's throats.

It is no different to the stories we get with their relationship with Camilla - which is allegedly 'dripping with Camilla's poison' if you believe some media outlets while others report that she gets on ok with Kate while others say Kate and William, along with Harry refuse to have anything to do with her.

The reality is that we don't know anything at all about how any members of the BRF get along with any others.

We know they can all put on a good show when in public for the very short periods of time that they are on public view with other royals so can't judge from that and the press reports are unreliable.

They won't come out personally and say 'I love xxxx but loathe yyyy' so we are left to speculate based on media reports and some people's belief that they can judge a relationship based on seeing them together for a few minutes a few times a year.
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Old 01-13-2018, 09:06 PM
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Exactly

The DF and other papers do anything to sell/get clicks. And they will always play up any drama, even made up drama. Of course Camilla is easy target, 'the boys are going to hate the woman that made mum miserable'. Now Kate, and Camilla being jealous. I am sure we will see the same with Meghan. or possibly the who is 'Camilla's favorite daughter in law', and who is getting the most attention from Charles because of her. Charles will be snubbing one set of grandchildren, because Camilla favors the other kids.....

Meghan and Kate may become close, they may not. They will certainly try to get along for the sake of their husbands and the kids. If they become friends, all the better. Not all sister in laws become close, that's reality of family dynamics.

We will never know. This family has a way of showing an united front on things and that will continue.

But expecting a Diana vs Fergie 2.0 media wise.
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Old 03-28-2018, 03:19 PM
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How close is The Queen and Sophie?
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Old 03-28-2018, 03:31 PM
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How close is The Queen and Sophie?
Apparently very close. She is said to be her favourite daughter-in-law out of the 4 she's had do far.

Sophie always speaks about the Queen with great admiration.
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Old 03-28-2018, 03:32 PM
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Apparently very close. She is said to be her favourite daughter-in-law out of the 4 she's had do far.

Sophie always speaks about the Queen with great admiration.
Thats sweet to hear. So do they speak to each other once a week?
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Old 03-28-2018, 04:30 PM
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Thats sweet to hear. So do they speak to each other once a week?
I seem to recall Sophie saying once in an interview that when the Queen spends weekends at Windsor she always goes there for tea and takes her children with her.
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Old 03-28-2018, 04:42 PM
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Apparently very close. She is said to be her favourite daughter-in-law out of the 4 she's had do far.
From something I read here on TRF my understanding is the Queen was very solicitous of Sophie in the early years of her marriage when Sophie was having harrowing medical events happen around pregnancies. For example, having Sophie ride with her (the Queen) at events so Sophie didn't have to walk or stress herself, etc. At that time they became close. (The fact that Edward and Sophie are the royal couple that always go abroad to attend continental royal events suggests that they are able to socialize effortlessly and agreeably).

It helps that Edward and Sophie live very close to Windsor. I have always had the sense that Edward and Sophie are the family that show up at Windsor to visit the Queen on a Sunday afternoon on a regular basis. Others can correct me if I'm wrong.

Dare I dip into a comparison? In many ways Sophie and Meghan share a similar background: both are coming from careers that require personability and an ability to not only get along with most anyone but be able to put people at their ease. I would think that alone was refreshing for the Queen.

It's why I think if Meghan and Harry get a house near to the Queen (and Charles), like in the Cotswolds, it is more likely that there will be a steady interaction between Harry's family and the Queen and Charles, as well as Edward and Sophie, and Anne's family, who all live in that area.

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Sophie always speaks about the Queen with great admiration.
But everyone always speaks highly of the Queen. It appears to be a given. To do otherwise would be unthinkable methinks. That's not to say Sophie does not have genuine admiration for the Queen. Especially given that they appear to be friends as well as in-laws.

BTW I have also read here on TRF that the Queen has been especially solicitous to Sophie's widowed father. Once his wife passed, the Queen made every effort to include the father at royal events, in carriage rides with her (the Queen), etc. That speaks to a close family relationship amongst that particular family grouping, I would say. Looks it to me.

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I seem to recall Sophie saying once in an interview that when the Queen spends weekends at Windsor she always goes there for tea and takes her children with her.
Yes, this speaks to that kind of regular, every-day relationship. I'm not aware of any other family (outside of perhaps Anne's) that socialize with the Queen the way Edward and Sophie do. (Not even William and Kate).
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I read a couple of years ago that the Queen and Prince Philip went regularly to have tea at Edward and Sophie's home and catch up with the family. With Prince Philip's increasing frailty don't know whether that still happens, though.
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I read a couple of years ago that the Queen and Prince Philip went regularly to have tea at Edward and Sophie's home and catch up with the family. With Prince Philip's increasing frailty don't know whether that still happens, though.
If Philip is living at Sandringham that kind of regularity would seem to be less.

But what you say reinforces that Edward and Sophie seem to have always been the more accessible domestic household. (And likely Anne's, too, I have always thought, since Anne is the daughter, and daughters just are more accessible to their mothers).
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Also, let's not forget Sophie has known the Queen for longer than her marriage itself. I remember seeing pictures of them together as early as 1993.
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Also, let's not forget Sophie has known the Queen for longer than her marriage itself. I remember seeing pictures of them together as early as 1993.
I didn't know that. I do know that the drama that swirled endlessly around the Wales' marriage at the time impacted the timeline of the Wessexes' relationship into engagement and marriage. There was always 'something' that forced Edward and Sophie to hold off (that's my memory/impression) hence the long courtship.
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Old 03-28-2018, 05:15 PM
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From something I read here on TRF my understanding is the Queen was very solicitous of Sophie in the early years of her marriage when Sophie was having harrowing medical events happen around pregnancies. For example, having Sophie ride with her (the Queen) at events so Sophie didn't have to walk or stress herself, etc. At that time they became close. (The fact that Edward and Sophie are the royal couple that always go abroad to attend continental royal events suggests that they are able to socialize effortlessly and agreeably).

It helps that Edward and Sophie live very close to Windsor. I have always had the sense that Edward and Sophie are the family that show up at Windsor to visit the Queen on a Sunday afternoon on a regular basis. Others can correct me if I'm wrong.

Dare I dip into a comparison? In many ways Sophie and Meghan share a similar background: both are coming from careers that require personability and an ability to not only get along with most anyone but be able to put people at their ease. I would think that alone was refreshing for the Queen.

It's why I think if Meghan and Harry get a house near to the Queen (and Charles), like in the Cotswolds, it is more likely that there will be a steady interaction between Harry's family and the Queen and Charles, as well as Edward and Sophie, and Anne's family, who all live in that area.



But everyone always speaks highly of the Queen. It appears to be a given. To do otherwise would be unthinkable methinks. That's not to say Sophie does not have genuine admiration for the Queen. Especially given that they appear to be friends as well as in-laws.

BTW I have also read here on TRF that the Queen has been especially solicitous to Sophie's widowed father. Once his wife passed, the Queen made every effort to include the father at royal events, in carriage rides with her (the Queen), etc. That speaks to a close family relationship amongst that particular family grouping, I would say. Looks it to me.

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Yes, this speaks to that kind of regular, every-day relationship. I'm not aware of any other family (outside of perhaps Anne's) that socialize with the Queen the way Edward and Sophie do. (Not even William and Kate).
Wow thanks for the information. Did not know a lot about their relationship. Kind of wish Kate would make an effort like Sophie has with The Queen. I believe Kate and The Queen have a heir like relationship since she is married to William a future king.
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Old 03-28-2018, 05:20 PM
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Wow thanks for the information. Did not know a lot about their relationship. Kind of wish Kate would make an effort like Sophie has with The Queen. I believe Kate and The Queen have a heir like relationship since she is married to William a future king.
It's a totally different kind of relationship. Sophie is the wife of the Queen's son and she has known her for 20-something years.

Kate is the wife of her grandson and much younger. It's not even comparable.
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Old 03-28-2018, 05:28 PM
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I have also read that if Andrew is at Royal Lodge - with or without one or other daughters - that he also visits the Queen regularly at the weekends.

It is Anne and Charles who see her less due to not living as close as Edward and Andrew, whose main homes, are in Windsor Great Park.
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I think Charles hardly ever sees the Queen apart from joint official engagements and major family events.

I believe the Queen has only ever visited Highgrove about 4 times in the last 30+years.
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Beatrice, Eugenie and Harry have all commented that they dropped in for tea with Granny and since they all lived at KP that would work well. Since William and Catherine have been married since 2011 how close they are is unknown to me. However, William takes regular instruction/chats and probably tea with Granny so it seems her "private personal tea time" was observed by her children, while her grandchildren "just drop in".

Interestingly, Sarah seems to take tea with HM and spends time at Sandringham when Philip is not there. She regularly says she adores the Queen and that she is the most forgiving person she knows.

Note: I remember reading that Harry is someone HM feels very confident about. So much so that when the Olympic stunt was floated she said she'd ask Harry what he thought before deciding.
Honestly, since the relationship with Meghan first hit I have been doing so much extraneous royal reading I can't remember what I read where!
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