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01-15-2007, 12:26 PM
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Iona isn't a peeress in her own right but I remember there being a big bet on between a few friends of mine. Some said that she would lose the Duchess title, some said she'd keep it. We phoned Burkes and they said that she would lose her title and would become Mrs Lars Swensen and although she could use Iona, Duchess of Argyll socially and it probably wouldn't be question (a la Raine), at court she'd be presented to the Queen as Mrs Lars Swensen not as Her Grace, the Dowager Duchess of Argyll.
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01-16-2007, 04:36 PM
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I have a doubt.. what would have happaned if The Queen had died when Charles and Diana were separated but not yet divorced.. (when she still had the tilte of HRH the princess of wales).. would she had been crown queen??..
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01-16-2007, 04:41 PM
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No. If they legally seperated with motion to divorce then the divorce would have been rushed through and finalised and Diana would have been Diana, Princess of Wales or Charles might have granted her a peerage.
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01-16-2007, 06:24 PM
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01-16-2007, 06:26 PM
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If Charles ascended the throne before they could divorce, I don't know if they would have gone through with it. I mean, have you heard of a Queen divorcing a King?
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01-16-2007, 06:32 PM
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It doesn't work like that. You don't seperate for a laugh - you seperate to divorce. The divorce would have been rushed through. You couldn't have a Queen Consort running about who wasn't married to a King, which she wouldn't be once they divorced. The divorce would have been sped through, Diana would have been given a peerage and she wouldn't have been crowned Queen Consort.
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01-16-2007, 06:35 PM
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Not always. Some people do separate and then get back together. It happens quite frequently.
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01-16-2007, 06:48 PM
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01-16-2007, 06:50 PM
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I guess I meant recently. I know that the King and Queen of Belgium nearly separated, but worked it out.
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01-16-2007, 06:57 PM
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I know this is all a moot point, but don't you think it in the realm of possibility that if after they announced their separation, the Queen suddenly died and he became King, they'd rescind that?
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01-16-2007, 06:58 PM
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I very much doubt it. Charles and Diana's marriage was non-existant by that time. They were both having extra-marital relationships and the divorce would have come sooner or later.
The marriage would have ended sooner or later so it would have been a divorce before he was King or after.
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01-16-2007, 08:54 PM
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John Major said when he announced the separation that there was no reason that Diana wouldn't become Queen in due time.
However, several legal pundits contradicted him right after he said it. The official divorce five years later solved the ambiguity. Diana wouldn't become Queen.
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01-16-2007, 08:58 PM
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It's very much a matter of snobbery with most titles apres Divorce. For example - Margaret, Duchess of Argyll carried on using the title Duchess of Argyll since her death even though she'd been long divorced from the Duke and even after the headless man business. She liked being a Duchess, she believed she could still use the title so she did. It was snobbery at it's best and most glamorous.
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01-16-2007, 10:17 PM
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As the legal wife of the King, she would have been Queen. I do think that they would have rushed the divorce along though, and she would never be crowned.
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01-17-2007, 05:26 AM
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An example of this was that when he became King, George IV's big concern was his wife, Caroline. They had been seperated for years and years, but they were still legally married. He had tried to get divorced from her while still Prince of Wales, but no luck. To prevent her from been crowned he tried to get divorced from her again and there was a big trial- quite a sensation at the time! But even as King of Great Britian he couldn't get a divorce from her! (Big change from Herny VIII's time!) He solved the problem by refusing to allow her to enter Westminister Abbey during the coronation. She was turned away at the door. 3 weeks later Caroline died and her coffin was affixed with a plate that read Caroline, Injured Queen of England. And she is still listed as his Queen, which probably has George IV rolling over in his grave... So unless they changed the Act of Succession (or the law...) since then, it seems that if a guy isn't divorced when he becomes King, his wife will be Queen.
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01-25-2007, 07:27 PM
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another question ... can someone without a royal title be considered part of the "official" royal family?? e.g.: will zara and peter philips receive the a state income or any other privilege reserved only for members of the royal family??..
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