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The heir to the throne is automatically Duke of Cornwall on the accession to the throne of the monarch. Example is when EVII became King, George became Duke of Cornwall and York (he was previously Duke of York). Rather a long title and he was generally known as Duke of Cornwall.
The heir to the throne is not always automatically Duke of Cornwall. The Duke of Cornwall is always the monarch's eldest son who is also the heir to the throne. If Charles were to die before his mother then there would be no Duke of Cornwall as the monarch's eldest son would not be the heir to the throne. When the requirements for the title are met then it is automatic.
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:29 AM
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The heir to the throne is not always automatically Duke of Cornwall. The Duke of Cornwall is always the monarch's eldest son who is also the heir to the throne. If Charles were to die before his mother then there would be no Duke of Cornwall as the monarch's eldest son would not be the heir to the throne. When the requirements for the title are met then it is automatic.
Thanks for that, but in the natural order of things, it would be as I stated.
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Do I take it then that there is no room for doubt that Camilla will be Queen Consort as the wife of King Charles III? Despite what her critics say?
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Old 04-24-2013, 11:56 AM
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Thanks so much everyone!

Do I take it then that there is no room for doubt that Camilla will be Queen Consort as the wife of King Charles III? Despite what her critics say?
There is room for doubt. At the time of the wedding, it was reported that Camilla will be Princess Consort. This is the official line according to the FAQ on the Prince of Wales' website.
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Thanks so much everyone!

Do I take it then that there is no room for doubt that Camilla will be Queen Consort as the wife of King Charles III? Despite what her critics say?
Your questions will undoubtedly be moved to the appropriate thread soon, but this topic has been discussed at length in numerous places. Camilla will be the wife of the King therefore it would take an act of Parliament to deprive her of the title Queen.

You may find this thread useful; Questions about British Styles and Titles
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Do I take it then that there is no room for doubt that Camilla will be Queen Consort as the wife of King Charles III? Despite what her critics say?
Really? Are you seriously going to stir that hornets nest again ?
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Old 04-24-2013, 01:04 PM
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Really? Are you seriously going to stir that hornets nest again ?
I believe AngieUK was asking a genuine question, which it is.
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Would Diana have remained a Princess if she remarried?

After divorce, was Diana a Princess in her own right, or simply because she had been married to the Prince of Wales? If she had remarried, would she have remained a Princess?
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:15 AM
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After divorce, was Diana a Princess in her own right, or simply because she had been married to the Prince of Wales? If she had remarried, would she have remained a Princess?
She wasn't a Princess in her own right. She held the divorced style of her husband, Diana, Princess of Wales. She was accorded the same precedence as before get divorce as she was mother to the future king.
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She was never a Princess in her own right.

Had she remarried she would have lost the right to use the Princess of Wales styling as part of her name.
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:38 AM
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She wasn't a Princess in her own right. She held the divorced style of her husband, Diana, Princess of Wales. She was accorded the same precedence as before get divorce as she was mother to the future king.
According to Charles and Diana Agree on Divorce Terms - NYTimes.com :

"The removal of the "Royal Highness" title, which separates the royal family from the rest of British nobility, officially obliges Diana to curtsey to others who have it -- her ex-husband, for instance, and even her own children. But the palace said, rather cryptically, that Princess Diana will continue to be "regarded as a member of the royal family" and "will from time to time receive invitations to state and national public occasions" at the invitation "of the sovereign or the Government."
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Old 06-17-2013, 06:56 AM
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Diana was mother of the future King she was never going to be excluded and her patronages kept her in the loop. William apparently told her when he was King he would give her her HRH back.

As iluvbertie explained she would have lost the right to use her divorced style had she remarried.
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After divorce, was Diana a Princess in her own right, or simply because she had been married to the Prince of Wales? If she had remarried, would she have remained a Princess?
In Britain you are a Princess either by birth or by marriage.
If you are one by marriage, you are never directly styled "Princess (Your Name)", but instead "Princess (Your husband's name)".
So Diana was Princess Charles. And since he is Prince of Wales, by courtesy, as all wives of peers, she is Princess of Wales.
After divorce, she is automatically neither Princess Charles nor Princess of Wales.
However, since wives of British princes are not given any surnames, it was announced that Diana and Sarah, after divorce, can use their peerage titles at the end of their name, just in place of their surnames.
Thus Diana came to be known as Diana,Princess of Wales.
And Sarah came to be known as Sarah,Duchess of York.
That does not mean either of them is a Princess or a Duchess.
Once they remarry, they get new surnames right eg. Diana Smith or Sarah Cavill. So Diana wouldnt be known as Diana, Princess of Wales anymore.But Idoubt things would have hardly changed and media continued to refer to her as Princess Diana throughout her life. Or atleast as long as she helped them sell..
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Just an additional note - the styles that Diana and Sarah used after their divorces are the same as any divorced wife of a peer - using the former title as a surname - so the divorced wife of The Duke of Hogwarts would also be known as Jane, Duchess of Hogwarts. This styling wasn't/isn't restricted to ex-wives of princes.
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"The removal of the "Royal Highness" title, which separates the royal family from the rest of British nobility, officially obliges Diana to curtsey to others who have it -- her ex-husband, for instance, and even her own children. But the palace said, rather cryptically, that Princess Diana will continue to be "regarded as a member of the royal family" and "will from time to time receive invitations to state and national public occasions" at the invitation "of the sovereign or the Government."
Right, which simply meant The Queen was walking a fine line for the sake of her grandsons. Officially, Diana lost her royal rank and was no longer a princess, but would continue to be regarded as one in style. On official occasions, she would not be banished to the back row, but allowed appropriate place next to her sons when so invited.

I doubt she would have retained the style of a princess had she remarried.
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The fact she would have to curtsey to her husband and even children shows she did not keep the same precedence she had when married.
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The fact she would have to curtsey to her husband and even children shows she did not keep the same precedence she had when married.
Ah, but the fact that she had to curtsey at all was because Charles was no longer her husband.
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The fact she would have to curtsey to her husband and even children shows she did not keep the same precedence she had when married.
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PR Newswire UK: DIVORCE: STATUS AND ROLE OF THE PRINCESS OF WALES

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Princess will from time to time receive invitations to State and
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these occasions The Princess will be accorded the precedence she
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We must remember that Diana's position was unique in that she was the divorced wife of the Prince of Wales but she was the mother of the future King and so they had to make up some new rules that applied to her situation which was different to Sarah's for instance. We know Sarah isn't invited to royal events even though she is the mother of two of the Queen's grandchildren, and nor, of course, is Mark but Diana would have still been invited.
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