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02-23-2012, 02:30 PM
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but since it could be a good 70 - 80 years before that child succeeds to the throne there is loads of time to deal with this issue if that's what the UK decides it wants.
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Except it won't be another 70-80 years before the child is born. If you wait until William is on his death bed to change the legislation for his child, they won't have enough time. This process could take years, to finalise all the wording, work out the problems with existing legislation. It's not going to happen tomorrow, but if it's changing it needs to start soon.
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02-23-2012, 03:57 PM
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Except it won't be another 70-80 years before the child is born. If you wait until William is on his death bed to change the legislation for his child, they won't have enough time. This process could take years, to finalise all the wording, work out the problems with existing legislation. It's not going to happen tomorrow, but if it's changing it needs to start soon.
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That is true.
Honestly I don't see the succession law changing any time soon. It's not like it was in the 16th century where people thought women couldn't rule at all and there was the overwhelming pressure to produce a son. I think most people feel if there are only girls and one reigns fine but if there's a boy and he reigns ahead of any older sisters that's fine too.
Truthfully, outside of these boards no one I talked to in England, when I was there last year, seemed to care one way or the other (funnily it seems to be a bigger topic of conversation here in the US. Interesting cultural difference there). And that ambivalence in general will do more to kill the topic than anything else could.
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02-23-2012, 04:07 PM
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Honestly I don't see the succession law changing any time soon.
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It won't change anytime soon because the legislation that is being written up, debated over, worked out will take a few years. But it is happening, it was decided at the CHOGM meeting in Perth last year. They will need to be approved by 14 of the 16 commonwealth parliaments and then receive royal assent.
A bill placed before the Prime Ministers in Perth stated that
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The changes would replace male preference primogeniture with absolute primogeniture for descendants of the current Prince of Wales, end the ban on marriage to Catholics, and limit the requirement for those in line to the throne to acquire permission of the sovereign to marry. However the requirement for the sovereign to be in communion with the Church of England would remain
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02-27-2012, 10:18 AM
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05-10-2012, 02:45 PM
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05-10-2012, 03:07 PM
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Nothing new at all, and Catherine could well be the mother of a couple of children before all the necessary legislation is passed.
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Like I've said earlier, I sure welcome a change, so that Roman Catholics aren't discriminated anymore. But I'm less sure about what to think about the first-born, reguardless of gender, being the heir appearent. I don't want women to be discriminated, but monarchy is so full of old traditions anyway, that I don't mind male primogeniture, even though it would seem awfully dated these days in many other situations. And like Graham Smith said, one of the children would still be the most privileged.
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How many times does the government think they can announce the same policy? Once is enough.
This really annoys me, though. The government are choosing to tinker with the constitution - royal succession, House of Lords - when those things are not priorities for the electorate. They should just leave this issue alone until such times as William and Kate have their first child. If it's a girl, then go ahead and change it; if it's a boy just leave it alone for a generation and concentrate on the things that really affect the lives of ordinary people.
It's not as if we don't have enough problems to keep the politicians busy.
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