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Old 04-22-2019, 02:20 PM
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Do you think Diana if she had lived would have been invited to any of the Jubilee Celebrations and if so would have appeared on the balcony of Buckingham Palace?
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Old 04-22-2019, 02:47 PM
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Yes I think she would have been invited to the celebrations but no she would not have been on the balcony. By the diamond jubilee even the Queens family weren’t appearing on the balcony so there would have been no reason to allow someone who wasn’t even a member of the Royal Family to appear.
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Old 05-25-2019, 07:04 AM
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They use different criteria than you. All people from this list are:
1) descendants of George VI + their spouses
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2) princes/princesses of UK + their spouses
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Scrolling through early posts in this thread, the first mention in this thread of the BRF's family list from their official website came in October 2011, after the Earl had passed, so we don't know if he had been included or not. I'd like to believe he was, both as a grandchild of a King (6th-in-line at his birth), and as a former Counsellor of the State. If someone with his credentials didn't rank then many on the current list are bizarre inclusions. Especially since a few other posters believe the great-grandchildren of Margaret will be eventually added to list.
Princess Mary's son the 7th Earl of Harewood was not included in the list in 2010, while he was still living, yet Samuel and Arthur Chatto were mentioned. Spheno's theory appears to be the right one.
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Old 05-25-2019, 09:38 AM
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Princess Mary's son the 7th Earl of Harewood was not included in the list in 2010, while he was still living, yet Samuel and Arthur Chatto were mentioned. Spheno's theory appears to be the right one.



It appears that the following persons are now officially considered members of the Royal Family:





1. Descendants of King George VI and their respective consorts.


or



2. Other descendants of King George V who hold the title of Prince (or Princess) of the United Kingdom and their respective consorts.




Under those criteria, the descendants of the current Dukes of Gloucester and Kent and descendants of Mary, Princess Royal are not considered members of the RF.



Probably, when Charles becomes King, the definition may be narrowed down to descendants of Queen Elizabeth II only, thereby excluding the Earl of Snowdon, Lady Sarah Chatto and their respective consorts and descendants. That would better chararacterize the current RF as the Mountbatten-Windsor family plus the Phillips, Brooksbank and Tindall families, and Princess Beatrice's future family if applicable.
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Iíve had a read through the thread but itís never fully been explained why the Duchess of York is on the list. Is it because she and Andrew have never remarried?
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Old 05-26-2019, 10:57 AM
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Iíve had a read through the thread but itís never fully been explained why the Duchess of York is on the list. Is it because she and Andrew have never remarried?
As far as I am aware the palace has never issued an explanation. In contrast to other monarchies, no clear rules exist in Britain regarding membership of the Royal Family.
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Old 05-26-2019, 02:30 PM
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It's said that the Queen considers The Lady Saltoun, widow of Alexander Ramsay of Mar - a great-grandson of Queen Victoria, a member of the Royal family.
In the post below about William and Kate's wedding, where The Lady Saltoun was listed with the members of the Royal family, Marlene Koenig explains that - "Membership in the Royal Family can extend to the children of a princesss (who is not the sovereign), but not the princess' grandchildren."
http://royalmusingsblogspotcom.blogs...y-who.html?m=1
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Old 05-26-2019, 03:13 PM
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It's said that the Queen considers The Lady Saltoun, widow of Alexander Ramsay of Mar - a great-grandson of Queen Victoria, a member of the Royal family.
In the post below about William and Kate's wedding, where The Lady Saltoun was listed with the members of the Royal family, Marlene Koenig explains that - "Membership in the Royal Family can extend to the children of a princesss (who is not the sovereign), but not the princess' grandchildren."
Royal Musings: Members of the British royal family who will be attending the wedding
I cannot find the link to the current list but aren't princess Margaret's and the princess royal's grandchildren included?
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Old 05-26-2019, 06:02 PM
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I cannot find the link to the current list but aren't princess Margaret's and the princess royal's grandchildren included?
Here is the updated list with Archie and Lena included.

And yes it includes the Chatto's, Armstrong-Jones's, all of Princess Anne's grandchildren, Sarah and Jack Brooksbank.

https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/f...l_family_9.pdf
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Here is the updated list with Archie and Lena included.

And yes it includes the Chatto's, Armstrong-Jones's, all of Princess Anne's grandchildren, Sarah and Jack Brooksbank.

https://www.royal.uk/sites/default/f...l_family_9.pdf
The still have the current 2nd Earl of Snowdon down as The Viscount Linley
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Old 05-31-2019, 12:21 AM
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Iíve had a read through the thread but itís never fully been explained why the Duchess of York is on the list. Is it because she and Andrew have never remarried?
No explanation has ever been given. But with the British Royal Family, it's quite clear that The Boss (as Fergie and Diana nicknamed her) is the one who decides whose in and whose out. It's common knowledge that The Queen and Fergie enjoyed a very good relationship during her marriage to Prince Andrew, and that Fergie has maintained a relationship with The Queen since their divorce. She was steps away from her at Lady Gabriella's wedding right in the thick of it when they waved goodbye at the end of the wedding.

Fergie has always been in and I dare say in a year or two she'll be even more in than she is currently.
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