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Old 09-26-2006, 01:39 PM
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The Pope definately won't have anything to do with this marriage. He may meet the couple before or after their wedding if he's "at home" but the Pope really only does baptisms and sometimes funerals, not weddings. There's been quite a few weddings in the Vatican - and I think there's been a few in St Peter's Basilica but it'll be a matter of time and date. If they want an Easter or Lent time wedding, they restrict themselves on venue.

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The Queen doesn't usually go to weddings of her cousin's children even if they're CofE, so I doubt the location would be the reason for her absence.
Thats what I meant. Add the fact that it's in Rome though, and it's almost definate that she just won't go. Unless of course she teamed the wedding up with a visit to the Pope. She hasn't met His Holiness yet.
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Old 09-26-2006, 01:47 PM
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That's right, she hasn't. She met His Previous Holiness, didn't she? But not this one yet.
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:03 PM
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Congradulations to the Couple upon this annoncement. Best of Luck for the futur. Does anyone know when the wedding wil take place
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:07 PM
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Congrats to the couple!

I thought the Queen did attend the wedding of Lady Helen. She didn't go to Lady Davina or the Earl of Ulsters as I thought they wanted no fuss weddings.
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I think the queen don't go to catholic weddings, but I not sure
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Old 09-26-2006, 08:11 PM
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I think the queen don't go to catholic weddings, but I not sure
Yes, but Lady Helen got married in the Church of England.

Here is a picture of the Queen standing next to the Duke of Kent. I believe she is wearing a yellow (maybe white?) suit.

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Old 09-27-2006, 12:10 PM
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Good for him! Congrats to both, and may they have a long, healthy, and blessed marriage.
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Old 09-27-2006, 01:44 PM
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The Queen attended two of the four weddings there have been among the children of her Kent cousins ie James Ogilvy's in 1988 and Lady Helen's in 1992. The only reason she didn't attend the Earl of St. Andrew's wedding was because it was a register office wedding and she never attends these and no Royals attended Marina Ogilvy's wedding because of the difficult circumstances surrounding it. However the Queen didn't attend either of the Gloucester childrens weddings.

It's interesting to note that the Earl of St. Andrews had to go to Scotland to marry because it was an accepted fact that Royals couldn't legally marry in a register office in England hence the lingering doubt in many quarters over the legality of Charles and Camilla's marraige
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What were the difficult circumstances surrounding the wedding of Marina Ogilvy?

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Is this young man attempting to marry at the Vatican?

It would be a shame if the Queen did not go based solely on the fact that it is a/would be a catholic ceremony. I know that she is the head of the church of England, but heads of other faiths often attend services at churches of another affiliation.

The greek orthodox and russian orthodox (patriarch and metropolitan, I think they are called?) head priests have both attended a mass at St Peters...
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What were the difficult circumstances surrounding the wedding of Marina Ogilvy?
There's some discussion about it in her thread:

http://www.theroyalforums.com/forums...watt-6927.html
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Dress code will be an interesting one. Technically, the ladies will be required to wear black and a veil or mantilla with the exception of the bride.
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Old 09-27-2006, 02:19 PM
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It would be a shame if the Queen did not go based solely on the fact that it is a/would be a catholic ceremony. I know that she is the head of the church of England, but heads of other faiths often attend services at churches of another affiliation.
I think there would be a lot of other reasons, 1) She doesn't always attend her cousin's childrens wedding even if they are in England (and in the case of the Earl of Ulster and Lady Davina I think they were held at St. James Palace) 2) She rarley attends events outside of GB, I doubt that she would travel to Vatican or Rome for one wedding. 3) Lord Nicholas does not have succession rights and it seems that he tries to avoid the spotlight he might want a low-key wedding like Lady Davina.

I also doubt that the Pope will officate, it might be in Rome or even in the Vatican City but I don't think the Pope does weddings, bapstims sometimes but not weddings.
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Old 09-27-2006, 02:22 PM
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The Pope won't officiate but if he's in residence then it will affect the ceremony. I should image the marriage will be carried out by the Cardinal Camerlengo or possibly the Archbishop of Westminster in the Vatican. It'll be a very interesting one.
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Gloucester

If I recall correctly, the Queen didn't attend the Gloucester's wedding as both of the children (Lady Davinia and the Earl of Ulster) requested low key weddings. And let's face it...if the Queen of England attends your wedding...well..that ain't low key

As she appears to be somewhat close and respects both the Duke and Duchess of Gloucester and the work they do for Royal Family, I doubt that she wouldn't attend their children's wedding. Unless of course, she had a schedule conflict.

So has a date been announced yet in regards to Lord Nicholas? I am glad..he is getting married...he has been so low key and sometimes the news was somewhat worrisome (drugs and depression). Good for him!
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The Pope definately won't have anything to do with this marriage. He may meet the couple before or after their wedding if he's "at home" but the Pope really only does baptisms and sometimes funerals, not weddings. There's been quite a few weddings in the Vatican - and I think there's been a few in St Peter's Basilica but it'll be a matter of time and date. If they want an Easter or Lent time wedding, they restrict themselves on venue.
All the best to the couple. May they be blessed with many happy years of marriage & children.
You can go & have your marriage blessed by the Pope. I have a friend who did that on her honeymoon- she went to Rome & when she went to The Vatican she wore her wedding dress & everything.
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A blessing would be nice. And the media would have a field day with inaccurate historical catholic-bashing.
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Old 09-27-2006, 06:36 PM
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I have once heard say that Her Majesty The Queen does not go to Royal weddings and Funerals due to the protocle of her title as Queen and there would be various reasons surronding this.
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Right, we have the details of Nicholas's wedding. There will be a pre-wedding gala at Il Palazzo Taverna di Monte Giordano - one home to the Borgias. That will be on the 3rd November - no guest list as yet.

Second day we have the wedding - they are marrying NOT in the Vatican but in Vatican City at the church of Santo Stefano degli Abissini. Then on the third day, there's going to be a Mass in the roof gardens of a hotel near the Colosseum. Not sure who will be going or officiating as of yet but it seems to be a very glam do. Well done Nicholas - he's got a girl of quality obviously.
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Lord Nicholas Windsor

Hello everyone. I came across an article regarding the impending marriage of Lord Nicholas Windsor to Croatian Princess Paola de Doimi de Frankopan. The article is mainly about the lineage of the Croatian Princess, but what struck my interest in the article is that this wedding will be the first British Royal wedding in the Vatican in over 400 years. Anyone know who were the last British Royals to be married in the Vatican? I've done some searches online and have come up empty handed. Here's the link to the story: http://www.dailyindia.com/show/65065.php/Windsor-bride-to-be's-lineage-questioned
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Not exactly in the Vatican but in Italy
were wedding by proxy between James II with Maria de Modene 20 or 30 Sept 1673 at the Ducal Palace, Modena, Italy. Their son James "The Old Pretender" and Maria Clementina Sobieska were married Sep 3, 1719 in the Cathedral of Santa Margherita at Montefiascone, Italy. After their wedding James and Maria Clementina were invited to reside in Rome at the special request of Pope Clement XI. The Pope acknowledged them as the (Catholic) King and Queen of Britain. The Pope provided them with a papal guard of troops, gave them the Palazzo Muti in the Piazza dei Santi Apostoli on Rome to live in + a country villa at Albano.

I'll try find more.
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