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Old 02-14-2014, 09:49 PM
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So, Queen Camilla will automatically become eligible to be a Counsellor of State but that doesn't means she will ever be one. I think got it.
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Old 02-14-2014, 09:51 PM
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^ Seriously? Camilla is the same as Eleanore of Aquitane and Queen Charlotte in appropriateness in this situation? Just because Charles has the ability to make C one, doesnt really make it historically appropriate. In every one of the past situations, the lady in question has been a first degree blood relative. I dont believe a woman completely unrelated has ever been made one. But please correct me if I am operating under a misapprehention :-)
Counsellors of State have only existed since 1911 and from 1911 to 1937 they weren't royal at all but senior politicians.

In 1937 the law was changed to specify who the CoS's would be - and that means that Camilla, as the wife of the monarch (assuming both she and Charles outlive The Queen) will meet one of the qualifications - being the wife of the monarch and thus the next of kin of the monarch.

Charlotte served as Regent for her living husband because she was his wife - the same relationship to George II that Camilla will have to Charles.

Eleanor served in her relationship as mother but there was no wife to serve anyway.
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Old 02-14-2014, 10:13 PM
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Bertie, am I correct in believing that the reason why the DoE has never served as CoS is because he's always travelled with HM when a CoS is required? As such, while he's eligible for being a CoS, he's never met the requirement of being in Britain when a CoS was required.
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Old 02-14-2014, 11:12 PM
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Ish - that is correct. CoS's are appointed when HM travels overseas and every time she has gone overseas Philip has accompanied her and thus has never actually been appointed despite his eligibility. If HM is only going for up to three days no CoS is appointed but if she will be gone for longer than that they are appointed - two or the five eligible are appointed and they carry out all the duties of the monarch including chairing council meetings, being briefed by the PM and other ministers and actually signing legislation.
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This is a most illuminating discussion - thank you! :)
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Old 02-15-2014, 12:55 AM
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^ Seriously? Camilla is the same as Eleanore of Aquitane and Queen Charlotte in appropriateness in this situation? Just because Charles has the ability to make C one, doesnt really make it historically appropriate. In every one of the past situations, the lady in question has been a first degree blood relative. I dont believe a woman completely unrelated has ever been made one. But please correct me if I am operating under a misapprehention :-)
To be honest, I really don't see Camilla even wanting to be a CoS and I would really be surprised if she was named one by Charles.

And as mentioned in previous posts, most likely if Charles will be away for more than 5 days and the CoS are needed, most likely Camilla will be traveling with him.
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Old 02-15-2014, 09:46 AM
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With Camilla not liking airplanes, it is not a guarantee that she would always go with him.

I would think that if the Queen had to pick a CoS, it would be Charles and William if available just to get them use to the state paperwork that will have to do later on. But it doesn't seem that any of the Queen's trips will be long enough to need CoS this year.
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Iluvbertie, Thank you for mentioning that Counsellors of State were appointed at the monarch's discretion during the reign of George V as needed.
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Queen Elizabeth II conferred the Honorary Degree of Doctor of Music on her mother, the Queen Mother, at the Royal College of Music in 1973.


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Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother planted a tree to commemorate her visit to the Queen Elizabeth Foundation for the Disabled at Leatherhead in July 1970.
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In 1938 Queen Elizabeth and her daughters, Princess Elizabeth and Princess Margaret Rose, reviewed the Christmas displays on a tour of the toy departments of London's big stores.


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King Manuel II of Portugal and Queen Mother Elizabeth?
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King Manuel II of Portugal and Queen Mother Elizabeth?
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Was Elizabeth the Duchess of York when this photo of her was taken?
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In The Little Princesses, Marion Crawford described Queen Elizabeth, the spouse of George VI, as "one of the loveliest people I had ever seen".
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Was Elizabeth the Duchess of York when this photo of her was taken?
In what year would she have seen Manuel II?

King Manuel lived in the UK 1910-1932 and was a close friend of the BRF so they would've had a lot of opportunities to meet.


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