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That is a lovely picture; the QM was a very attractive young woman and in her childhood with mesmerizing blue eyes.
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Discussion of the recent claim about the Queen Mother's origins has been moved to the Royal Library forum.
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Great photos.Truly, there will be no one like her.
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Old 04-01-2012, 02:18 AM
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I always thought the Queen mum was such a beautiful child!
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Old 04-01-2012, 02:41 AM
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I think the queen mother had a very unique beauty. She was such a lovely lady. RIP Queen Mother
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Old 04-01-2012, 11:24 PM
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I have to say that this is my favorite picture. I don't think I've ever seen Bertie and Elizabeth kidding around like that. He looks rather amused. It's just a shame that you can't see her expression.
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I have to say that this is my favorite picture. I don't think I've ever seen Bertie and Elizabeth kidding around like that. He looks rather amused. It's just a shame that you can't see her expression.
I have never seen this! Bertie always looks so serious; it's nice to see a photo like this.
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Old 04-10-2012, 09:42 PM
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I love the pics of the Royal Family!
This is truly an awesome trio!
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I have to say that this is my favorite picture. I don't think I've ever seen Bertie and Elizabeth kidding around like that. He looks rather amused. It's just a shame that you can't see her expression.
I've never seen this photo, either. That's a candid and amusing shot; I wonder who's mimicking whom! Thank you for sharing.
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Minor point - I noticed that the group wedding picture is dated May 3rd 1923, days after she is shown leaving her home for her wedding on April 26th 1923. Was it the habit to take the photographs later - in this, 7 days later? The group photo is one of the few where she doesn't seem happy. Well, none of the women and girls in that photograph seemed particularly pleased (except for Miss Betty Cator - who's got the giggles, methinks) - but clearly the bride was not amused - I wonder what was up? A mystery.
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Minor point - I noticed that the group wedding picture is dated May 3rd 1923, days after she is shown leaving her home for her wedding on April 26th 1923. Was it the habit to take the photographs later - in this, 7 days later? The group photo is one of the few where she doesn't seem happy. Well, none of the women and girls in that photograph seemed particularly pleased (except for Miss Betty Cator - who's got the giggles, methinks) - but clearly the bride was not amused - I wonder what was up? A mystery.
I've read in several different biographies of Queen Mary, Queen Elizabeth The QM and the present Queen that Queen Mary believed that royalty should never smile in public - and that went doubly for official photographs. Being royal was a serious business to her...
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Does someone know why the queen abducted when her husband died?
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Did you mean "abdicate"? And she would not have abdicated since she was a Queen Consort, not a reigning queen, so she became a queen dowager upon George VI's death when Elizabeth II came to the throne. The Queen Mother was only a queen because of her husband, not a queen in her own right.
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The Queen Mother was only a queen because of her husband, not a queen in her own right.
So there never was a possibility of her becoming Queen in her own right after the death of her husband.
These are the things I don't know because I'm not English.
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That's correct; the QM was born Lady Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon to the Earl and Countess of Strathmore and was never in the line of succession to the English throne. She married into the Royal Family to Prince Albert who became King George VI when his brother, Edward VIII, abdicated the throne to marry Wallis Simpson. She became queen consort only because her husband was a king. Their daughter, Elizabeth, as heiress presumptive inherited the throne in her own right upon her father's death, whereupon Queen Elizabeth became the Queen Mother. Therefore, she could never have become queen in her own right because she wasn't born to it. I hope this explains a bit more for you.
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Is it true that she spent an awful lot of money on gambling while paying her servants very small wages?
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The QM loved horse racing and betting, and I read that she spent a lot of money on this habit to the point where her daughter had to subsidize her spending, but I don't know about the wages she paid her staff. There are a lot of biographies on the QM, most notably her official bio written by William Shawcross.
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It's known that the Royals don't pay their staff high wages. Some of them even work elsewhere during their off-hours to subsidize their income. However, I haven't read that HMTQM was unusually stingy with her staff.
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It's known that the Royals don't pay their staff high wages. Some of them even work elsewhere during their off-hours to subsidize their income.
Why do they pay so little?
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They pay the set wage for staff and provide board as well. It is also a great thing to have on a person's resume if seeking a similar job in another household because of the standards in the royal households.

e.g. if I had worked as a housemaid at Buckingham Palace and wanted a promotion to be the housekeeper at say Chatsworth House in Derbyshire (the home of the Duke of Devonshire) having the experience of working at Buckinhgam Palace would give me an advantage in going for that better job.

To help you with your earlier question about the Queen Mother and her position when her husband died:

Currently we have The Queen and her husband is Prince Philip - he is her consort.
Next we have Charles and Camilla. Charles will be King Charles and Camilla will become Queen Camilla - so a King and Queen but Camilla will still only be the consort - the same position Philip holds now.
Then will come William and Kate - Kate will be the consort - the supporter but never in her own right.

To be the monarch in their own right the person has to be born to it not marry into it. When a person marries into the royal family they take their status from their spouse but they can't take the position of the spouse.
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