Duke and Duchess of Windsor (1894-1972) and (1895-1986) - Page 9

Duchess · #**161** 12-22-2006, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Roslyn

I found this. http://www.nndb.com/people/921/00011...on-1-sized.jpg

Seems she was rather attractive when she was young, but she didn't improve with age.

i thought she was very attractive, along with her impeccable grooming and sense of style, but you're right she didn't age well.

Avareenah · #**162** 12-23-2006, 02:06 PM

I think her failure to "age well" was a combination of her habits of being a heavy smoker, drinker and sun worshipper - she was always the "tanned" one in the royal family in her day.

Margaret was fashionably dressed until about the mid 1960's but seemed to get stuck there. Her later clothes, hats etc. seemed quite dated and were not flattering, in my opinion.

**Zonk** · #**163** 12-31-2006, 04:32 PM

Santa was good to me this year!

From my sister, who supports my Royal obsession I received the DVD of Edward & Mrs. Simpson! This of course, led me to watch Bertie & Elizabeth....does anyone know of any other movies that depict the Edward and Wallis affiar and the susbequent abdication?

Jaya · #**164** 12-31-2006, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Avareenah

I think I know what Queen Marie means. Wallis was never really a great beauty in the classical sense but her chic style and immaculate grooming did make her seem that way to me. Because of this, her photographs are pleasurable to look at and that's what I consider beautiful.

I can't remember who it was but it was said of Wallis' face "all her features are good, yet put together they do not make beauty".

I'm not sure what Iowabelle means by "not liking some of the things she did". As an American in the 1930's, she didn't have much idea of royal protocol, but I believe they got married at David's insistence, not because of any ambition of Wallis' to be Queen.

What a figure the lady maintained.The Duchess first said "never too rich or too thin." She was a classical brunette when others were blonde.The Duchess knew herself well and knew what became her and what did not. For instance I have never seen her wearing a hat with a brim.she was impeccably groomed always.I am not certain but I do believe they smoked in those days.
all this gave a silhouette that was trim forever.
The Duchess was a fashion icon I think when Mainbocher dressed her. I also loved her in Norell.She also wore a lot of Kenneth Jay Lane for
costume jewellery.the fashion world will certainly remember her.

iowabelle · #**165** 01-04-2007, 05:27 PM

Avareenah, I meant that I think it was inappropriate of her to cheat on her husband Mr. Simpson, to cheat on her husband the Duke of Windsor, to encourage Edward VIII to abandon his responsibilities and then to embark on a hedonistic, relatively pointless life with him. Wallis's deficiencies glare when she is compared to Elizabeth, Alice and Marina.

**Elspeth** · #**166** 03-06-2007, 01:33 PM

There was one starring Jane Seymour as Mrs Simpson, and surprisingly she looked uncannily like Wallis. I think that was a made-for-TV movie.

The new one, "Wallis and Edward," isn't out yet but is available for preorder. There's a play by Royce Ryton called Crown Matrimonial, which deals with the Abdication; it was filmed about a million years ago, and Greer Garson plays Queen Mary, but I don't think it's available as a DVD. You might be able to pick up a copy of the book of the play, though.

wymanda · #**167** 03-08-2007, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Elspeth

There was one starring Jane Seymour as Mrs Simpson, and surprisingly she looked uncannily like Wallis. I think that was a made-for-TV movie.

Called "The Woman he Loved"

**Elspeth** · #**168** 03-08-2007, 11:14 AM

Yes, that's right! Thanks, Wymanda. From the Amazon website, it looks as though it's available in theory as a VHS tape but they don't have any available for sale new or used at the moment.

Duke of Windsor · #**169** 07-08-2007, 03:32 AM

Hello everyone,
I have recently joined the Royal Forums in the hope of learning a little more about royal families around the world and meeting like-minded people. Introductions aside, I was wondering if anyone out there has a copy of (or a link to) a copy of Edward, Duke of Windsor's coat of arms after he abdicated the throne in 1936. I am in the middle of reading "A King's Story" - his memoirs - and it has a copy of it on the front, however it is rather poor. So that's about it, just wondering if anyone out there could post a reply with a copy of his coat of arms, or alternatively email a copy to me.
Anyones assistance would be greatly appreciated

Thanks for your time,
Patrick.

**HRH Kerry** · #**170** 08-03-2007, 10:58 PM

Wallis, Duchess of Windsor, is today's featured article on Wikipedia.

BeatrixFan · #**171** 08-04-2007, 09:23 PM

BBC NEWS | UK | Duke 'advised' to miss coronation

From the Beeb. The article says the Queen wanted to know who her successor was in 1953 - it says her husband would succeed her. Eh?

**Elspeth** · #**172** 08-04-2007, 09:27 PM

It says she wanted to be sure the Cabinet knew she wanted her husband or one of her children to succeed her.

I wonder what they really mean. Did she honestly think they'd try to stick Margaret or even the Duke of Windsor on the throne after she died?

I'm thinking this may be trying to say that she wanted Philip rather than Margaret to be Regent if she died during Charles's childhood, but it makes so little sense that it's hard to know.

**Elspeth** · #**173** 08-04-2007, 09:33 PM

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I have recently joined the Royal Forums in the hope of learning a little more about royal families around the world and meeting like-minded people. Introductions aside, I was wondering if anyone out there has a copy of (or a link to) a copy of Edward, Duke of Windsor's coat of arms after he abdicated the throne in 1936. I am in the middle of reading "A King's Story" - his memoirs - and it has a copy of it on the front, however it is rather poor. So that's about it, just wondering if anyone out there could post a reply with a copy of his coat of arms, or alternatively email a copy to me.

Here's the description from Wikipedia.

As the royal arms go hand-in-hand with the crown, the undifferenced arms passed to George VI and the Duke of Windsor was left in the unusual position of an eldest son needing to difference his arms, which was done by means of a label argent of three points, bearing on the middle point a royal crown or.

So it looks as though it's the usual design for a younger brother or son of the monarch, and the middle of the three points has a gold crown.

BeatrixFan · #**174** 08-04-2007, 09:34 PM

It's all very strange. I think they mean Philip would have been Regent and not Margaret in which case it's a bit of a slur on her sister. I don't think the Duke of Windsor ever had a shot at Regent but it seems very strange to me that she'd put Philip over her sister. Oh well, not important I suppose but strange when thinking what might have been.

BeatrixFan · #**175** 08-04-2007, 11:18 PM

For those who are curious, a clip courtesy of YouTube in which we hear both Edward and Wallis speak.

ysbel · #**176** 08-04-2007, 11:30 PM

Thanks for the link, BeatrixFan. It was quite interesting to hear their voices. The Duchess' accent sounds less American.

**Avalon** · #**177** 08-05-2007, 07:27 AM

Thank you for the video Beatrixfan.

It's the only time I've heard Wallis and Edward (apart from the abdication speech).

Duke of Windsor · #**178** 08-05-2007, 09:00 AM

Thanks for that description of the Duke's arms, Elspeth. I saw a video clip of his funeral a while back and I got a good look at his arms then.
That clip of the Duke and Duchess on YouTube is really cool - I've never heard their voices before that - thanks, BetrixFan.
If anyone's got anymore clips of them it'd be good if you could post them up here.

Patrick.

Duchess · #**179** 08-05-2007, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Avareenah

I think her failure to "age well" was a combination of her habits of being a heavy smoker,...

actually if i remember correctly the book i read said that she was a staunch non smoker and it drove her nuts that the duke smoked. other than i think you're right.

**Avalon** · #**180** 08-05-2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by BeatrixFan

It's all very strange. I think they mean Philip would have been Regent and not Margaret in which case it's a bit of a slur on her sister. I don't think the Duke of Windsor ever had a shot at Regent but it seems very strange to me that she'd put Philip over her sister. Oh well, not important I suppose but strange when thinking what might have been.

Wasn't this around the same time there were rumours Margaret intended to marry Peter Townsend? If they were to marry and the Queen died, a woman married to a divorced man would be presiding over the (then) British Empire.
The Queen was not going to let this happen, not with the memories of Edward & Wallis story still fresh in memory.