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Old 01-17-2018, 04:03 PM
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When King George V had his coronation, was there not a certain order of the Royal Family in a carriage procession that went to Westminster Abbey?
Who accompanied Prince Edward, the heir to the throne, to the Abbey?
With a new King and Queen Consort, who is the last to enter the Abbey on Coronation Day?
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Old 01-17-2018, 08:25 PM
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When King George V had his coronation, was there not a certain order of the Royal Family in a carriage procession that went to Westminster Abbey?
Who accompanied Prince Edward, the heir to the throne, to the Abbey?
From Wikipedia about the Coronation in 1911

" The first of three processions left Buckingham Palace at 9:30 am. It consisted of representatives of foreign royal families and governments, carried in fourteen carriages. The second procession had five state landaus for members of the British royal family; the fifth contained the king and queen's children, the Prince of Wales, Princess Mary and the young Princes Albert, Henry and George. The third procession brought the officers of state in a further four carriages and the twenty-fifth and final carriage, the Gold State Coach carrying the king and queen. They were surrounded by equerries, aides-de-camp and the commanders of the armed forces mounted on horseback, all escorted by Yeomen of the Guard, colonial and Indian cavalry and the Royal Horse Guards ".

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With a new King and Queen Consort, who is the last to enter the Abbey on Coronation Day?
The King's procession is the last to enter as he is the sovereign. The Queen's procession is the 2:nd last to enter.
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Old 01-22-2018, 12:18 AM
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Does anyone know who Charles' Lord Great Chamberlain is likely to be? There are 13 potential candidates amongst the decendents of the 1st Marquess of Lincolnshire.

The shares those people hold range from 1/20 (Nicholas Llewellen Palmer, Rufus Keppel, and Harry Legge-Bourke) to 1/100 (the various descendents of Ruperta Legge).
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Old 05-12-2018, 04:08 PM
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The coronation of George VI and Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon as King and Queen of the United Kingdom and the Dominions of the British Commonwealth and as Emperor and Empress of India took place at Westminster Abbey, London, on 12 May 1937.

Via History Twitter

In 1727, George Frideric Handel was commissioned to write four coronation anthems for King George II. One of these anthems, Zadok the Priest, has been performed at every British coronation since.

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Old 05-12-2018, 05:00 PM
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Does anyone know who Charles' Lord Great Chamberlain is likely to be? There are 13 potential candidates amongst the decendents of the 1st Marquess of Lincolnshire.

The shares those people hold range from 1/20 (Nicholas Llewellen Palmer, Rufus Keppel, and Harry Legge-Bourke) to 1/100 (the various descendents of Ruperta Legge).
As the earl of Dartmouth fulfilled the position for his wife the Countess of Darthmouth, I'd say that line is the least likely. My guess would be the 10th Earl of Albemarle (Rufus Keppel) as he has been in office for the longest time among the three that have a share of 5%. A case could also be build for Nicholas Llewen Palmer as the most senior line (among the 5%) or for The Hon. Lorraine Wilson as the most senior line overall (but only a share of 1.25% and female, which would be a novelty)
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As the earl of Dartmouth fulfilled the position for his wife the Countess of Darthmouth, I'd say that line is the least likely. My guess would be the 10th Earl of Albemarle (Rufus Keppel) as he has been in office for the longest time among the three that have a share of 5%. A case could also be build for Nicholas Llewen Palmer as the most senior line (among the 5%) or for The Hon. Lorraine Wilson as the most senior line overall (but only a share of 1.25% and female, which would be a novelty)

It would be great to have a female as Lord Chamberlain. Why not ?
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Old 05-12-2018, 05:16 PM
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Who would be the one to decide? The family or Charles or some other official?

And if Charles, is he friends with either one of them?
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Prince Michael of Kent and his memories from the coronation of the Queen on 2 June in 1953

Prince Michael of Kent recalls Queen Elizabeth's coronation 65 years ago | Daily Mail Online
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Prince Michael of Kent and his memories from the coronation of the Queen on 2 June in 1953

Prince Michael of Kent recalls Queen Elizabeth's coronation 65 years ago | Daily Mail Online
I will watch the program. Thanks for the link.
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Old 06-02-2018, 09:03 PM
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The Lord Great Chamberlain is an hereditary position and is current held by the 7th Marquis of Cholmondeley. That wouldn't change when Charles becomes King

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord_Great_Chamberlain
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The beautiful thing about the future Coronations will be the fact that lots of diversity will be incorporated throughout the Coronation. Looking at the documentary today, one can see such a major lack of diversity in the 1953 event. People of color couldn’t see any reflection of themselves in such an occasion.
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The complete religious ceremony inside the Abbey in 1953!


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Old 08-01-2018, 04:18 PM
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The beautiful thing about the future Coronations will be the fact that lots of diversity will be incorporated throughout the Coronation. Looking at the documentary today, one can see such a major lack of diversity in the 1953 event. People of color couldn’t see any reflection of themselves in such an occasion.
This comment made me sad that anyone would feel left out of any important occasion in history just because they are a different race and color.....people that are involved in something like this should be there only if they can contribute to the occasion not because they are of a different race/color.

Race/color should have nothing to do with any event in history/life, it is for the people that are involved that is important......putting someone there who is not needed or can not contribute shows a lack of understanding to the very person who is put there for no other reason then race/color......

So should a person of each race/color on earth be put in all events just so that everyone feels welcome........
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So should a person of each race/color on earth be put in all events just so that everyone feels welcome........
Of course not. But you can't tell me people of other races didn't have the capacity to achieve a right to be part of such historic event. And in the past, they were prevented from achieving their full potential. THAT's what is significant.
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Old 08-01-2018, 04:31 PM
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For the coronation of King Charles, ‘people of colour’ won’t play a part either. All the major players are white , which should come as no surprise.
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This comment made me sad that anyone would feel left out of any important occasion in history just because they are a different race and color.....people that are involved in something like this should be there only if they can contribute to the occasion not because they are of a different race/color.

Race/color should have nothing to do with any event in history/life, it is for the people that are involved that is important......putting someone there who is not needed or can not contribute shows a lack of understanding to the very person who is put there for no other reason then race/color......

So should a person of each race/color on earth be put in all events just so that everyone feels welcome........
Many people of different ethnic backgrounds can contribute to such a grand and beautiful occasion.

1953 was a different time and era. Future Coronations will reflect the beauty of a very diverse nation and Commonwealth. A different world will be watching and will be able to see themselves reflected in the Coronation.


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For the coronation of King Charles, ‘people of colour’ won’t play a part either. All the major players are white , which should come as no surprise.
The King’s daughter-in-law (who’s a woman of color) will be front and center to watch the crowning. Folks should want diversity incorporated into these Coronations.
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Old 08-01-2018, 04:36 PM
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For the coronation of King Charles, ‘people of colour’ won’t play a part either. All the major players are white , which should come as no surprise.
Within the Anglican church, that is not the case. (There will be female clergy taking part also as there are now female bishops)

I think we will find that because HoL is not based on hereditary peerages any more, representatives could be "people of colour".

And as Charles wants other religions represented as part of the service, the same could apply there.
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Old 08-01-2018, 04:46 PM
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Folks should want diversity incorporated into these Coronations.
I understand you’re a person of colour, but I fail to understand why folks ‘should want diversity’ in the coronation.

Last time I checked black people amounted to about 7% of the British population.
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So, SO busy telling us what we 'should' want [for our most Sacred National Rite].. I cant recall us telling you anything of the sort since 1776..
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Of course not. But you can't tell me people of other races didn't have the capacity to achieve a right to be part of such historic event. And in the past, they were prevented from achieving their full potential. THAT's what is significant.
I *did not* say that anyone didn't or doesn't have the capacity to achieve a right to be part of any historic event.......if anyone today can achieve whatever it takes to be part of any historic event then so be it.......the past is just that, *the past* and today is a very different time for all of us.....all colors, all races and all sexes.
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