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Old 06-05-2013, 12:40 PM
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Wait, are you guys telling me that William won't have an investiture ceremony?

Charles was named Prince of Wales & Earl of Chester in 1958 but his investiture ceremony took place in 1969.

I think William should have an Investiture Ceremony as Prince of Wales. It would be silly not to have one, IMO. It will be nice to see William being formally invested with the (Honours of the Principality of Wales) regalia and Coronet.
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Did anyone make out the three rows of family seating order in the church? The angle made it hard to discern those closest to the camera. I lost it this side of Harry and on back:
http://cache3.asset-cache.net/gc/169...5YHzv1kw%3d%3d
Thanks for the reply on this. 4 rows, order of precedence - I see it now!
And thanks to the DM () I figured out that to Prince Harry's left, the front row held the original Maids of Honor. See: Hats our girls: The Duchess of Cambridge leads a stylish display of headgear at the Queen's coronation celebrations | Mail Online
I wondered to whom those hats belonged and it was Lady Anne Glenconner wearing that pretty rose print that can be seen in some of the photos.
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Wait, are you guys telling me that William won't have an investiture ceremony?

Charles was named Prince of Wales & Earl of Chester in 1958 but his investiture ceremony took place in 1969.

I think William should have an Investiture Ceremony as Prince of Wales. It would be silly not to have one, IMO. It will be nice to see William being formally invested with the regalia and Coronet.
He doesn't need to have one, particularly in a time of mourning it might not occur.
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Old 06-05-2013, 12:48 PM
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He doesn't need to have one, particularly in a time of mourning it might not occur.
I know William don't need to have an Investiture Ceremony. It's only a formal ceremony but I don't expect him to have an Investiture ceremony after The Queen's passing. I'm talking about at least awhile after Charles's Coronation. A year later or something. I just think there should be a formal ceremony.
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Well I suppose if the Welsh Assembly ask for such a ceremony it might happen but I think it highly unlikely. Like I said previously it is not exactly a ceremony rooted in ancient history, it was a made for tv event in 1969 and only Edward VIII had previously had any kind of a ceremony.
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Old 06-05-2013, 02:27 PM
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Especially since William would most likely be named prince of wales during the time between the queens death and Charles being crowned. Only Charles and Edward VIII had a ceremony. Charles's was a made for tv event setup by lord Snowdon
True, but an investiture doesn't have to happen when he becomes PoW. Charles became PoW in 1958, but the ceremony didn't happen until 1969.

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Wait, are you guys telling me that William won't have an investiture ceremony?

Charles was named Prince of Wales & Earl of Chester in 1958 but his investiture ceremony took place in 1969.

I think William should have an Investiture Ceremony as Prince of Wales. It would be silly not to have one, IMO. It will be nice to see William being formally invested with the (Honours of the Principality of Wales) regalia and Coronet.
It would be nice, but it's not necessary. There is no tradition of having an investiture, Charles' ceremony was essentially a made up one.
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Old 06-05-2013, 03:03 PM
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There will be enough complaints about the cost of Charles coronation, plus people saying William wont be PoW for long.
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There will be enough complaints about the cost of Charles coronation, plus people saying William wont be PoW for long.
True, but also the wishes of the people in power in Cardiff will need to be taken into account. They may not want such a ceremony to take place. It is even possible they may wish the heir to stop using the PoW title and just stick with being Duke of Cornwall.
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Old 06-05-2013, 03:16 PM
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Well, we'll see what will happen. I just think there should at least be a formal ceremony for William sometime down the line...even if it's a couple of years after Charles's Coronation.
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True, but also the wishes of the people in power in Cardiff will need to be taken into account. They may not want such a ceremony to take place. It is even possible they may wish the heir to stop using the PoW title and just stick with being Duke of Cornwall.
I agree with the first part, and this is probably the subject for a different thread, but I don't believe that the Welsh Assembly has the power regarding titles. They can request, but no power.

And I also seem to recall that the use of the title was called a "free plug for Wales" as in tourism, everytime its mentioned.
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I know the Welsh have no power over titles but since devolution I think the wishes of Wales and its elected Welsh Assembly might have to be taken into account, certainly more so than in previous eras.
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Old 06-05-2013, 03:32 PM
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The Welsh people and Assembly may want a new Prince of Wales and may want a formal ceremony and invite their new Prince & Princess of Wales to tour Wales.
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No they didn't - from the Court Circular:

The Queen and The Duke of Edinburgh, with The Prince of Wales and The Duchess of Cornwall, The Duke of York, The Earl and Countess of Wessex, and The Princess Royal and Vice Admiral Sir Tim Laurence, afterwards attended Receptions and subsequently were entertained to Luncheon by the Dean in College Hall.
Thanks cepe. I appreaciate you looking that up for me. Looks like none of the younger royals attended.
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Just to go back to the William's investiture discussion (this will probably get deleted for off topic) Charles was named pow as a young teenager and invested as a young man several years after his mother's coronation. William is the complete opposite. He will be in is mid 30s with a wife and at least one kid. His naming as pow and his father's coronation will be around the same timeframe.

I can see a joint engagement in wales between Charles and William & Kate as a introduction for the new pow. Then a tour of wales for the new prince& princess instead a investiture ceremony.
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Old 06-05-2013, 08:36 PM
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I do see a tour of Wales in the works when William & Catherine become the new Prince & Princess of Wales. It's going to be great to have a new Princess of Wales again.

I think The Queen's Coronation Anniversary ceremony have me thinking about the future Coronations and Investiture ceremonies a bit too much. I just hope I'm around to see the next Coronation, as it will be my first time witnessing such an event.
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Old 06-05-2013, 10:20 PM
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I do see a tour of Wales in the works when William & Catherine become the new Prince & Princess of Wales. It's going to be great to have a new Princess of Wales again.
We already have a Princess of Wales.

There will be a new Prince as well as Princess if William is named Prince of Wales.
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Royal firm in fine fettle:
Royal firm in fine fettle | Royal | News | Daily Express

A pretty nice read on the Monarchy.


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We already have a Princess of Wales.

There will be a new Prince as well as Princess if William is named Prince of Wales.
Yes I know. I'm just pointing out that it will be nice to have a royal who we can address as The Princess of Wales. Camilla may be the current Princess of Wales but she's not officially addressed as so. It's going to make a difference when we all are able to address William & Catherine as Their Royal Highnesses The Prince & Princess of Wales.
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Royal firm in fine fettle:
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A pretty nice read on the Monarchy.
Really bad, damaging article
One more time they try to remind about royals' bad days, divorces, scandals, problems and so on
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Old 06-06-2013, 05:22 AM
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I think the article have a way of reminding us that the Monarchy has come a long way.
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