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Kneuterdijk and Soestdijk palace had an orthodox chapel for Queen Anna Pavlovna. Also her later residence of Rustenburg in the Hague had one (demolished, and replaced by the Peace Palace.

Het Loo has a protestant chapel : https://www.koninklijkhuis.nl/umbrac...ss=local&name=

In The Hague the stadholders (and before them the counts of Holland) used a chapel on the inner court, which was demolished in 1879. The Walloon calvinist congregation already relocated to a new building that was donated by king Louis Napoleon.
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Old 11-05-2014, 06:25 AM
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The sand stone of the palace has been damaged by men urinating against it. The palace is located in a busy area of Amsterdam and esp. the arcades is a likely spot for drunk British tourists to urinate.

The government building service has started some measures. They placed some ugly fences in front of the arcades. But those will be removed, and other measures will be taken. People caught urinating have to pay a fine of 140 euros. They will also install light censors. If that doesn't work they will make a 'urilift' close to the palace: an urinoir that disappears in the ground during the day and that comes up at night. If that doesn't work they will place screens between the arcades, a pop-up fence (only active at night) etc. The last resort is a permanent small fence.

Paleis Amsterdam geplaagd door wildplassers - Royalty Online

http://www.ad.nl/ad/nl/1012/Nederlan...p-de-Dam.dhtml
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Old 11-05-2014, 07:38 AM
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A permanent fence or railings might be the only solution,I was appalled to see men urinating at night time at the Palace and Nieuwe Kerk last November.
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:04 AM
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The sand stone of the palace has been damaged by men urinating against it. The palace is located in a busy area of Amsterdam and esp. the arcades is a likely spot for drunk British tourists to urinate.

The government building service has started some measures. They placed some ugly fences in front of the arcades. But those will be removed, and other measures will be taken. People caught urinating have to pay a fine of 140 euros. They will also install light censors. If that doesn't work they will make a 'urilift' close to the palace: an urinoir that disappears in the ground during the day and that comes up at night. If that doesn't work they will place screens between the arcades, a pop-up fence (only active at night) etc. The last resort is a permanent small fence.

Paleis Amsterdam geplaagd door wildplassers - Royalty Online

Wildplassers worden te kijk gezet bij paleis op de Dam - AD.nl
Do drunk people from other nationalities urinate against the palace or is it something specifically confined to British tourists?
Either way, it is rather vulgar to find oneself in need of a lavatory late at night and then proceed to relieve oneself - especially against a Royal Palace.
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Old 11-05-2014, 08:32 AM
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If people/press here describe the problems in the center, many quickly refer to 'Drunken Brits' to sum it up, though I am sure other groups also cause problems. The reputation of British tourists in Amsterdam is: very drunk, causing brawls, puking on the street, urinating on the street, screaming and small vandalism. I am sure that residents of the Spanish Costa's will have a similar idea about the Dutch btw.

The explosion of air travel causes problems for many cities in Europe. Venice has become practically an open air museum and other cities, like Amsterdam are moving more and more in that direction. Barely a week goes by without a letter of complaint or an article in the Amsterdam newspaper of the negative effects of this increase. For many locals it has become a problem. I used to live opposite the Anne Frank house for 7 years and thankfully moved to another area: the sheer number of people on the street and esp. people partying on boats in the canals became were starting to get on my nerves. The city hall seems to do little as tourism is an important source of income for the city.

In the case of Amsterdam an additional problem is that it is a popular spot for hen/ stag parties. Esp. with young Dutch provincials and with young British (there are many cheap flights between the UK and Schiphol Airport). These groups mainly come to get drunk and cause most of the problems as they seem to think that all is allowed here. The palace is located in the old heart of the city, close to the central station, between two of the most popular shopping street and linking the trashy red-light district, popular with young tourists / provincials and the Leidse- and Rembrandts square, two other touristy areas to go out. So the drunkards often pass the palace when going from one area to another.

Of these young tourists, the British ones form the largest problem by far, as a survey from a few years ago (2009?) showed. Of course they make up 20% of all tourists thus forming the largest group. It is usually easy to spot them, the girls: tons of make-up, fake hair and very revealing outfits, even in winter; the boys in Geordie-shore outfits & hair cuts too, usually loud and drunk. Note that I am sure that most (British) tourists do know how to behave & actually visit the several museums of the city. And on the bight side: the Brits are usually cheerful and pleasant, so that makes up for it I suppose. According to the British embassy at the time, the problems with British tourists were taken out of proportion by the Dutch press. The city counsel did little apart from hoping that these young Brits would soon prefer to go to Prague as the alcohol is cheaper there, though they started a program to make some areas a bit more up-market (closing down parts of the red light district for example). But anything here takes ages so the effects have not materialized yet.

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Why they didn't do anything about this earlier is a mystery, it has been going on for years/ decades.
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The sand stone of the palace has been damaged by men urinating against it. The palace is located in a busy area of Amsterdam and esp. the arcades is a likely spot for drunk British tourists to urinate.

The government building service has started some measures. They placed some ugly fences in front of the arcades. But those will be removed, and other measures will be taken. People caught urinating have to pay a fine of 140 euros. They will also install light censors. If that doesn't work they will make a 'urilift' close to the palace: an urinoir that disappears in the ground during the day and that comes up at night. If that doesn't work they will place screens between the arcades, a pop-up fence (only active at night) etc. The last resort is a permanent small fence.

Paleis Amsterdam geplaagd door wildplassers - Royalty Online

Wildplassers worden te kijk gezet bij paleis op de Dam - AD.nl
I do hope they think of censors providing the the ultimate in keeping from using the palace as a public toilet...An electric shock of sorts will no doubt be a blast!!And a deserved one.

As you say,the increase of cheap flights and the subsequent influx of tourists...mostly the young crowd...from all over Europe but espcially GB& Italy...It becomes more and more like Barcelona...There the locals complained and had impromptu demonstrations at places with lots of noise and disruptions caused by the young infidels so Barcelona took measures to keep the neighbourhoods quiet....Sad,but a nessecity!We will have to do something here to
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Well, I am ashamed of it I really am. I knew Amsterdam was popular amongst young British people for parties etc. It would be a shame to enclose Dam Palace with rulings or gates etc because it is such a beautiful building at night, and there is something quite awe inspiring about being able to get up close to it.
I took a canal boat around Amsterdam to the Rijksmuseum on my last visit and also had coffee at the cafe next to Anne Franks House. I always go to the flag shop near-ish to the flower market to buy an interesting flag each time too. I avoid taking maps and dressing in a British way too so as to blend in.
So at least one British tourist here remains respectable!
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The area around the Palace especially at night time is very picturesque especially when all the church bells start clanging together.Its a shame that certain elements have such lack of respect when visiting .
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