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Old 11-16-2017, 12:17 PM
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I suppose they are not renovating the Hall of Knights, as that was done a few years ago? The Orange Hall is the most elaborate interior of the country, The Inner Court has nothing that can be compared to it.

It would not be surprising if the costs for the Inner Court will also exceed the budget. It always does.. .
But what is Huis ten Bosch? The Oranjesael with some state rooms in the central part, the original 17th C building. Plus two wings with beautiful salons, private appartments, guestrooms and that is it.

Huis ten Bosch is relatively small but maybe the quality is so exceptional. Anyway, everything connected with the Royal House (the maintenance of Huis ten Bosch, of De Groene Draeck, of the Glass- and the Golden State Coach, of a quay and a fence in Greece, or a pied-à-terre for Princess Beatrix, or the new airplane: all of these with unbelievable prize tags. I have a heart for the monarchy, but indeed: seeing these spendings, no wonder the Dutch Royal House is one of the most expensive...
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Old 11-16-2017, 02:19 PM
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When there is no incitament to keep prizes down there's no need to. I was at a student association budget meeting yesterday and the constant overspending by the administration is horrendous but there's no incitament to save because nobody tells them too. Maybe it's the same with the Oranjees? Nobody has told them to economize so the thought that they should be more careful with their spending hasn't occurred to them.
I'm not familiar with how the debate is in the Netherlands but if it had been in any other European monarchy constant overspending would've been a disaster PR-wise. Are all these houses and palaces paid for by the Royal house or by a Government agency?
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Old 01-08-2018, 10:48 AM
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By coincidence I learned that from 1959 until 1980 former Prime Minister, Captain-at-Sea (Ret) Petrus Jozef Sietse ("Piet") de Jong lived at the 's-Gravenhaagse Bos 12 in The Hague. That is one of the staff houses in the park of Huis ten Bosch Palace.

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"Strange, for a Prime Minister, to live in a grace-and-favour house of the Queen" was my thought. I learned that Captain-at-Sea De Jong was an Aide-de-Camp to the Queen before he became State Secretary for the Navy (1959-1963), Minister of Defense (1963-1967) and Prime Minister (1967-1971).

Apparently the Queen offered the staff house to her Aide-de-Camp but did not evict him when he ended that function. In 1980 the former Prime Minister moved to Park Marlot in The Hague.

Picture - Captain-at-Sea P.J.S. de Jong leaving Soestdijk Palace - in his time as Aide-de-Camp to Queen Juliana.
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Old 01-09-2018, 08:02 AM
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The Palace restoration is due to be completed later this year ,is there any news on a possible finish date?
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Old 01-09-2018, 10:28 AM
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The Palace restoration is due to be completed later this year ,is there any news on a possible finish date?
It is in the planning that the King moves to Huis ten Bosch at the end of this year.

The natural hardstone has been removed from the outside stairs and will be replaced with new hardstone (picture)

This was the 17th C hardstone, cracks are visible (picture)

The dome of Huis ten Bosch is completely covered in scaffoldings (picture)

The copper tiles of the dome have been removed because the woodwork of the dome will be renewed (picture)

The stucco in the Marot Chamber: the cracks have been "crabbed out" and will be refilled with new stucco (picture)

Detail of the stucco in the Chinese Salon, already cleaned (picture)

Also the tympanums are in restoration (picture)

New copper rain gutters for the building (picture)

The 1970's climate control is removed from the 17th C building (picture)

Bad parts of the fundaments are drilled away (picture)

Replacement of bad parts (picture)

Wood rot in some of the 17th C beams (picture)

It will be a lot of work before Huis ten Bosch will be ready again (picture)
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The Huis ten Bosch work must be costing a fortune! Would it be better to tear down and build new?
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:00 PM
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The estimated cost is 59 million euros. Several millions go towards the removal of asbestos that would also be needed if they had decided to tear it down (and I sincerely doubt that would be cheaper to tear down and completely reconstruct a palace with both living quarters and representative quarters - and why tear down such a historic (it dates from 1645!) building?)


The main issue is that hardly any maintenance was done over the last 30 years, so it makes sense that they want to do it well this time before the king moves in with his family. Moreover, anticipated maintenance that would be needed within 10 years is done right now to avoid higher costs down the line.
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Old 07-19-2018, 09:52 PM
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The Huis ten Bosch work must be costing a fortune! Would it be better to tear down and build new?
Um, I don't think 'tear down and build new' was ever an option regarding such a historic palace, or any historic architecture dating over 100 years old. It's either careful renovations, or let it be.
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Old 07-20-2018, 04:14 AM
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The Huis ten Bosch work must be costing a fortune! Would it be better to tear down and build new?
It is a fortune but the State's Cultural Heritage Agency has a budget for it. For an example the Dom in Utrecht (picture) will get 30 million for the restoration. Soestdijk Palace (picture) will get 45 million Euro. The Central Station in Amsterdam (picture) will get 50 million Euro. And even historic infrastructural works like the Maastunnel in Rotterdam, the eldest tunnel in the Netherlands (picture) gets subsidy (262 million Euro). Soon the Inner Court Complex in The Hague (picture) will be restored for 475 million Euro. The preparations are under way. So it is just what the Dutch find worth preserving (or not).
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I had not known that Utrecht is such a big city. (Thanks for the photograph.) About my comment, I question the cost of the European monarchies. It must be costing so much to fix up that palace! Is it worth it? Mind you, what you're saying is that everything costs a fortune so why not the royal palaces too!!
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