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Old 08-29-2010, 11:36 AM
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I have to admit though the actress playing Wallis does look quite like her.
I will not be seeing this film when it hits the cinema, but waiting until it gets to the "Bargain Bin"
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Old 08-29-2010, 11:40 AM
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It might not even make it to the cinema.

How many movies are made that for a variety of reasons don't get a distribution deal.

Depending on how far fetched the story is as well how good the acting and directing is This might go straight to video.
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Warren, what was Madonna's first movie?
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Old 08-29-2010, 11:44 AM
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Well, I am no Warren

According to imdb.com the first film she directed was Filth and Doom (2008). I have never heard of it. I believe the first film she acted in was Desparately Seeking Susan, which was a good 80's film.
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Old 08-29-2010, 11:52 AM
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Ah! Thanks Zonk. Filth and Doom. Sounds like a blockbuster to me. . . . .NOT.
Actually, I never saw Desparately Seeking Susan. I did watch her in that awful movie Shanghai Surprise. Madonna CAN act when she has a good director, as evinced in A League of their own. However! I do not know how she is behind the camera and that matters, especially with this material.
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Old 08-29-2010, 11:57 AM
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Well she was not the lead character in Desparately Seeking Susan, Rosana Arquette was. She is a hit and miss actress to me. Like you said when she has a good director she is okay, but sometimes she has a good director in a bad movie and she isn't good. She should definitely stick to music, that is her strength IMO.

Either way, I have never paid money for a Madonna movie and I don't imagine that I will when this comes out.
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:12 PM
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If the movie is not historically accurate, then it should be a movie about a fictious royal, not one that existed.
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:19 PM
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Despite my low expectations for the film from the beginning, I really would have liked to see Vera Ferminga as Wallis. She definitely looks like Wallis (slender and very handsome woman as opposed to classically beautiful), even w/o historical costume and makeup. Also, Vera is of the right age to play Wallis, who was in her late 30s, early 40s during the affair and abdication crisis.
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I'm confused by the plot of the film, I don't think it's entirely about Edward and Wallis, but about some other woman played by Abbie Cornish who falls for some Russian guy.

Also it says something about being Mohammed Al Fayed being portrayed as "Friendly", i'm sure he is.

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Doesn't that speak volumes. Buckingham Palace declined to help. I can only wonder why. Since the Queen was about 12 years old at the time of Edward's abdication, she would know what was accurate and what was not accurate historically since this decision changed her life forever. Given that 1938 is 72 years ago, there are very few people around who still remember this or who have memories of it.

This movie seems to be bits and pieces of Edward VII life mixed in with others who had nothing to do with this event (a Russian guy and Mohammed Al Fayed). It should be renamed because it's not historically accurate.
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Old 08-29-2010, 02:54 PM
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It doesn't speak volumes, not IMO. BP and neither would HM would never help with any film, no matter who was directing it or how accurate it is or isn't.

I had assumed that the film was about Wallis and Edward only, and in that sense the story could be different to every other W&E film because no one can certainly know except Edward and Wallis, especially information about after they married.
But now that it has included a separate story which I don't think is neccesary makes the whole film worse.
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Despite my low expectations for the film from the beginning, I really would have liked to see Vera Ferminga as Wallis. She definitely looks like Wallis (slender and very handsome woman as opposed to classically beautiful), even w/o historical costume and makeup. Also, Vera is of the right age to play Wallis, who was in her late 30s, early 40s during the affair and abdication crisis.
I had to look her up ER. She's in The Boy in the Striped Pajamas. My step-son saw that in school. I 'll have to NetFlix it. She sounds intriguing. Thanks!
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No innocents? I beg to differ. Two little girls had their lives changed forever and not necessarily for the good. I think they would have preferred to keep their father for a good many years longer and continue to adore Uncle David, the King.

I wonder if Madge will remember that the Duchess of York had no power to effect change, e.g. theAbdication?
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Move over Guy: Madonna the film director takes over the streets of London | Mail Online

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She may no longer be married to film director Guy Ritchie, but its clear his influence on Madonna is still strong.
Following in his footsteps, the business like singer took to the streets of London yesterday to film her new movie W.E.
Dressed down in a winter coat and trilby, with unflattering thick rimmed glasses, it was clear Madonna was keen to be taken seriously in her role as director.
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Madge should stick to the day job,it earns her a lot more money
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Her day job? She hasn't released an Album in over 2 years.

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1936 England – Wallis Simpson, an American woman, captured the heart of King Edward VIII. Already divorced and married to her second husband when she met Edward, then the Prince of Wales in London, the two fell in love. However, once crowned, Edward was told by the Church and the Prime Minister that he could not marry Wallis and remain King. He abdicated, giving up the throne to be with the woman he loved. Once married and known as the Duke and Duchess of Windsor, they lived out what many considered to be the romance of the century.

1998 N.Y – Wally Winthrop has a troubled past and moves to New York from the South to work in Sotheby's Estate department. She gives up her job to marry a successful psychiatrist but the marriage is unhappy and Wally finds herself bored, frustrated and often alone. She seeks refuge in her obsession with what she believes to be the ultimate romantic love story, King Edward VIII's abdication for his love of Wallis Simpson. When Wally discovers that there is going to be an auction of the Duke and Duchess of Windsor's Estate at Sotheby's, she takes the opportunity to return to her old hunting ground to try to understand the nature of the great love affair through the artifacts that once belonged to the couple. While at Sotheby's, Wally meets Evgeni, a Russian security guard, with a mysterious past. As she immerses herself deeper into the love story of Wallis and Edward, while spending more time away from her marriage, she finds herself falling in love.
We travel back and forth in time with Wally and Wallis, two fragile but determined women whose lives become inextricably linked. However, as the story unravels it becomes apparent that Wallis Simpson’s life was not as perfect as Wally had thought.
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Thanks for the storyline but I think I am going to pass. This just sounds bad to me.
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I had to look her up ER. She's in The Boy in the Striped Pajamas. My step-son saw that in school. I 'll have to NetFlix it. She sounds intriguing. Thanks!
Her most recent prominent role was in Up in the Air with George Clooney and she got an Oscar nod for it. She was good in that role.
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Thanks for the storyline but I think I am going to pass. This just sounds bad to me.
Why do film producers/studios/writers, etc. always feel the need to bonk us over the head so we can "connect" with history. It's like Julie and Julia. I thoroughly enjoyed the Julia Child part of that but modern part was mostly pointless (except for the food porn). Amy Adams is a good actress, but the Julie part was annoying and I did see how she saw herself in the same emotional state as Julia Child (I blame poor writing). Bring out timeless emotions and themes is what a good film (or book) does, not some random modern "connection" insert.
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I suppose the idea of another story within a story is a good idea. Other directors have used the same idea.

My concern is that because I follow the British Royal Family, I am not going to be happy if she tries to change history. To my knowledge Elizabeth only met Wallis a handful of times and really, if any blame needs to be addressed...try to get the story right.

And really, the abdication story has been told by better writers and directors. Its so compellig IMO that it doesn't need another story to ride along it.
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