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Old 01-14-2019, 05:54 PM
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I’m just saying; enough with these kind of films. How about thinking outside the box with a royal film? There are and were more royal figures out there than just the British.

There have been many TV shows and feature films about royals from other countries (Isabella the Catholic, Felipe II, Caterina de Medici, Louis XIV, Louis XVI, etc.). Elizabeth I and Queen Victoria just happen to be popular characters in the English-speaking world. Queen Anne on the other hand is a rather obscure figure for most people, so I would say The Favourite is pretty much"out of the box".
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Old 01-14-2019, 07:05 PM
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I don't recall any other movie about Queen Anne (formerly Princess Anne of Denmark).
Queen Anne featured in an episode of 'Highlander' quite a few years back.

Not quite the subject we're talking about, but i agree with the poster above who said the latest Murder on the Orient Express was not good; agree completely.
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Old 01-14-2019, 09:00 PM
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In the late 1960's there was a mini series called The First Churchills with John Neville and Susannah Hampshire which did a much better job of sticking closer to the facts than The Favourite appears to do. I'm sure it would look very dated now, but it was a good series, and made the characters and the relationships relatable and understandable. They don't seem to make 'em like that anymore.

Having fun with history is great, but the problem is when people see stuff like The Tudors, or The Queen, or, apparently, The Favourite, and think that those things really happened, or that that was what those characters are/were actually like. Especially when the people are still alive, I think it's problematic.
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Posts about Cleopatra and suggestions for future historical movies have been moved to a new thread:

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10 Oscar Nominations for The Favourite .

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In the late 1960's there was a mini series called The First Churchills with John Neville and Susannah Hampshire which did a much better job of sticking closer to the facts than The Favourite appears to do. I'm sure it would look very dated now, but it was a good series, and made the characters and the relationships relatable and understandable. They don't seem to make 'em like that anymore.

Having fun with history is great, but the problem is when people see stuff like The Tudors, or The Queen, or, apparently, The Favourite, and think that those things really happened, or that that was what those characters are/were actually like. Especially when the people are still alive, I think it's problematic.


I read the Jean Plaidy saga about Queen Anne many years ago and remember finding it fascinating as a largely ‘unglamorous’ part of British history. I think it largely keeps to the facts about the relationship with Sarah Churchill and others. If the events in The Favourite intrigues you, it is well worth tracking down.
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I read the Jean Plaidy saga about Queen Anne many years ago and remember finding it fascinating as a largely ‘unglamorous’ part of British history. I think it largely keeps to the facts about the relationship with Sarah Churchill and others. If the events in The Favourite intrigues you, it is well worth tracking down.
Thank you for the recommendation, I'll have to see if I can find this. I used to read a lot of Eleanor Hibbert (Jean Plaidy, Victoria Holt, Philippa Carr, etc.) years ago, but her book(s) about Queen Anne don't ring a bell at all, so I think I must have missed it.
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The saga consists of The Haunted Sisters, The Queen’s Favourites and The Three Crowns. I think, as the title suggests, that it’s the middle one that deals most with the period covered in the film.
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Up until the Favourite I can't recall seeing Queen Anne on the big screen or TV unless it a reference to the style of furniture named in her honour!
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The film is utterly disappointing. It is raunchy, dirty, and denigrating. It lacks wit and sophistication of Eugène Scribe play. Was there any necessity to drag the English history through mud?

The Soviet "A Glass of Water" by Youli Karasik was much better: magnificent Sarah, Duchess of Marlborough, witty Henry St. John, Viscount of Bolingbroke, and elusively conniving Abigail Churchill.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Glas...ter_(1979_film)
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‘The Favourite’ wins 7 Baftas tonight in London!

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Hot on the heels of the Bafta's Olivia Colman wins best actress Oscar for her role as queen Anne in the Favourite.

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SO 'well deserved' !

That said Glenn Close should have won best Actress for her brilliant Performance in Dangerous liaisons, all those years ago...
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Hot on the heels of the Bafta's Olivia Colman wins best actress Oscar for her role as queen Anne in the Favourite.

https://www.theguardian.com/film/201...-the-favourite
The Oscars are mostly identity politics these days. I think the BAFTAs have become a much better indicator of quality. Thankfully, AMPAS got it right this year with Olivia Coleman.
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SO 'well deserved' !

That said Glenn Close should have won best Actress for her brilliant Performance in Dangerous liaisons, all those years ago...
Agreed on both accounts. A splendid performance and what a charming woman Colman is.
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Congratulations to Olivia Coleman on her Oscar. I was rather hoping she would win. The other nominees were all good too, but Olivia was my choice. (Nearly said favourite.)
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It's interesting the way that films on the BRF are either Oscar bait (The Queen, The King's Speech) or dismal flops (A Royal Night Out, Diana, Queen Jane etc.)


Does it depend on the casting, the writing, or the publicity?
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I found the movie rather unappealing, but Coleman is a fantastic actress and the Oscar well deserved.
Last weekend I watched The Wife, similar case, movie very unappealing but with Glenn Close a fantastic lead actress.
I thought Close would win because she deserved it after 6 nominations but you never know.
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I've seen Trailers for the Favourite and it looked abysmal rubbish....
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