"The Queen": a film about Elizabeth II and the death of Diana. - Page 16

**HRH Kerry** · #**301** 04-24-2007, 10:57 PM

Got mine first thing this morning!

RoyalKnottie · #**302** 04-24-2007, 11:57 PM

I love this movie! I really like the audio commentary with Robert Lacey (historian and royal expert). Very interesting and I highly recommend watching the audio commentary.

**Elspeth** · #**303** 04-25-2007, 01:18 AM

Thanks for the tip. I don't usually bother with audio commentaries, but this one sounds as though it may be worth making an exception for.

crisscross1 · #**304** 04-28-2007, 01:59 AM

I rented a copy of 'The Queen' today and I must say I really enjoyed it. I thought the actors who played the different characters were very well chosen and in particular Helen Mirren. I'm glad I didn't buy a copy though, I don't think I would watch it too often

BeccaLynn07 · #**305** 04-29-2007, 08:39 PM

I bought a copy of it the other day and I must say, it was better than I expected. From the previews, it looked alright but turned out to be rather enjoyable. Helen Mirren played her majesty perfectly, in my opinion.

scooter · #**306** 04-29-2007, 09:57 PM

I watched it last night for the first time. I thought that Helen mirren had QE down to a T. Unfortunately I also think they had DofE perfectly as well. If so, I can see where a lot of the BRF 'issues' have come from in the last two generations. I particualaly enjoyed the exchange where Philip says 'and the wives should just toe the line' and Elizabeth say 'really philip?' in an extremely ironic tone

HRH_Liz · #**307** 04-29-2007, 10:19 PM

I love this movie very much. I think that Helen did a wonderful job. I am glad that she got her Oscar. I am going to listen to the commentaries. I am wondering if the royal house really didn't like Diana? Does anybody know why? I was just wondering. If the questions are too bold then plz ignore them. Thanks.

ysbel · #**308** 04-29-2007, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by HRH_Liz

I love this movie very much. I think that Helen did a wonderful job. I am glad that she got her Oscar. I am going to listen to the commentaries. I am wondering if the royal house really didn't like Diana? Does anybody know why? I was just wondering. If the questions are too bold then plz ignore them. Thanks.

Hello HRH Liz, I think the Queen had some fondness for Diana. After all, she enthusiastically approved of Diana as a daughter-in-law and allowed Diana to join her for dinner unannounced when Diana was feeling lonely when the Queen didn't offer that same privilege to her own children.

However, I believe, that Diana caused Her Majesty a great deal of pain. When she first helped release the Andrew Morton book that was criticial of the Royal Family and she lied about it by saying that she took no part in it when it was later released that she had taped interviews for it, Diana caused a great deal of anxiety about the Royal Family in general, and when Diana secretly taped the Panorama interview where she was critical of the Royal Family and cast doubts on Charles' ability to reign, the nation was thrown into a monarchy in crisis. This was the monarchy that the Queen held very dear to her heart and had worked unfailingly and unceasingly to defend and support.

I imagine it was quite hard on Her Majesty to see the very real prospect of all her life's work going down the tubes after one single interview with a girl she had always been very fond of and had approved of joining the inner bosom of her family. I think the Queen can be quite understanding and forgiving but she would have to be totally superhuman and totally forgiving if she didn't feel any resentment towards Diana in that difficult time.

I do think the Queen softened a little bit towards Diana when she realized that the monarchy could become stronger and better after it all but when Diana died, only two years after the fateful Panorama interview that Diana did behind the backs of the Queen and the royal household, I think the wounds for Her Majesty were still a little fresh.

The Queen's hurt was perfectly understandable to me.

banda_windsor · #**309** 04-30-2007, 03:13 AM

it said that Queen Elizabeth II, didn't watch this movie. I dunno why...

gfg02 · #**310** 05-05-2007, 06:11 PM

Mirren snubs dinner invite from the real Queen

Mirren snubs dinner invite from the real Queen | the Daily Mail

Polly · #**311** 05-05-2007, 07:47 PM

Having read Dame Helen's reasons for declining the invitation I believe that Her Majesty would have understood and appreciated why Dame Helen couldn't accept. The Queen is a hard-working woman herself and would know that work commitments, on whom a large number of other people are depending, cannot easily be discarded.

To me, this is a mere beat-up to try and reflect an intolerant and pompous light on Her Majesty. Such piffle!

CasiraghiTrio · #**312** 06-21-2007, 12:27 PM

I bought my "copy" from iTunes. I must say it is better each time I watch it. It is pretty close to perfect as far as royal movies go. I think the producers should consider making a "prequel", like a movie about the Queen when she became "The Queen", 1952-1953, from Accession to Coronation, that would be awesome.

**TheTruth** · #**313** 06-21-2007, 12:39 PM

This movie seems so close to reality that sometimes it's hard to tell the difference with fiction. It's, I think, one of the greatest film made about the royal family. Even after rewatching it, I can't find a mistake or a weird thing in it. Helen Mirren is just tremendous !

CasiraghiTrio · #**314** 06-21-2007, 12:48 PM

If they were to make my proposed prequel about the Accession-to-Coronation, I wonder who could play the young new Queen and her young handsome husband.

**TheTruth** · #**315** 06-21-2007, 01:09 PM

I'd see Gillian Anderson as the Queen. I think she'd look great.
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For Philip I really don't know ...

**HRH Kerry** · #**316** 06-21-2007, 04:11 PM

I have yet to break the plastic from my dvd! Oh, the shame.

fee · #**317** 06-21-2007, 04:52 PM

I think part of the charm of this movie and cetainly the credibility comes from the actors.
Helen just simply was the Queen and Cromwell looked extremely like the elderly Philipp, as for Blair (he played himself, didn't he?

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So I fear a movie about the young QEII even by the same producers and direction team, but obviously other actors might not have the same effect.

I loved the movie too and I found it particularly good, that they refrained from portraying the boys, as this would have only served some tear jerking.

I also liked the way Cromwell portrayed the stiff and stuffy Philipp, for once IMO it became obvious, that he cared deeply for the boys (not so much for their mother) but was stuck in his generation of stiff upper lip and boys don't cry. (So he took them out for deer stalking, good one on the day mommy died...)

CasiraghiTrio · #**318** 06-21-2007, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by TheTruth

I'd see Gillian Anderson as the Queen. I think she'd look great.
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She no doubt has the ability to do it, but isn't she too old? For a Coronation story, the Queen was only 25. I think Gillian anderson is a lot older than that.
I think it would be tough, indeed, to find someone young enough who could master the performance. I thought of Natalie Portman, what do you think? I don't know. She is a bit over the age by several years but looks very much younger than she is, and certainly she is a terrific actress who proved already she can do a good British accent with Closer.