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I am not much of a fan of Isabella, the whole inquisition and kicking out Jews and Moors just turns me off. I try to put it in historical perspective but it is hard.
Quick question, I have often heard complaints about the Spanish royal family looking stereotypically Spanish in American and British productions. But this is a Spanish production and it seems they have cast actors with dark hair etc. to play the roles.
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Very strange but Isabel was not listed on SKY Arts 1 OR 2 last night,I checked both of them earlier this week and saw nothing and thought it was a mistake,but checked both of them again last night and no mention of Isabel
I guess they weren´t referring Isabel with the date, but the other series.

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I am not much of a fan of Isabella, the whole inquisition and kicking out Jews and Moors just turns me off. I try to put it in historical perspective but it is hard.
Quick question, I have often heard complaints about the Spanish royal family looking stereotypically Spanish in American and British productions. But this is a Spanish production and it seems they have cast actors with dark hair etc. to play the roles.
I won´t be the one who will defend the Inquisition, of course it doesn´t say a lot about her, but still many other things she did were movie stuff, the least. I still have to find a single monarch from her same time who wasn´t a murderer. Politics, religion...everything was the same, a reason to murder enemies and secure oneself power. All the dark legend about the Spanish Inquisition was heavily exalted by English-speaking historicians, do you know about the "black legend"?
Black Legend - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

About the steoreotypically Spanish actors to play the roles...it´s a funny matter. I think the series are right in most cases. Isabella had blond hair and blue eyes and so has the actress, while Ferdinand was dark haired. Joanna of Portugal was dark-haired as well, and I think King Henry IV is well despicted too. I don´t know about the rest of the actors/actresses, though.

Isabella´s daughters (except Joanna) had as well blond-reddish hair, that is why Spaniards always complain about the English versions of Catherine of Aragon who are almost always dark-haired
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Old 08-20-2013, 05:13 PM
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Isabella´s daughters (except Joanna) had as well blond-reddish hair, that is why Spaniards always complain about the English versions of Catherine of Aragon who are almost always dark-haired
One of the few times they got her coloring correct was in The Six Wives of Henry VIII mini-series in 1970. That and most Henry VIII movies/TV shows start around the time of his pursuit of Anne Boleyn, so Catherine is often presented as middle-aged frump with darker coloring when in fact, she had fair coloring and was quite attractive in her youth.
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Old 08-20-2013, 11:17 PM
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Th actress playing Isabella didn't look blonde to me, but I am just judging from a few photos, I haven't seen the actual production. It's is mostly Katharine of Aragon who irks me the most when they give her dark hair and skin. The worst depiction of the Spanish I have seen has got to be in Elizabeth The Golden Age.
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Isabel comes back to TVE tomorrow evening with the chapter 1 of the 2nd season.

Long trailer of the season: Isabel , Capítulo 14, Isabel - Avance de la segunda temporada - RTVE.es A la Carta

And a good map of the main characters (old and new ones) and the relationships among them):
Red: pro-Isabel
Blue: Pro-Juana
Yellow: Granada´s royal family.

Enemies: black

http://lab.rtve.es/serie-isabel/personajes/
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According to my TV Guide (Irish), "Isabel" (1st season) will commence on Sky Arts 1 next Friday, September 27th at 10pm.

I don't have Sky Arts 1 either so I really hope that a DVD version with English subtitles appears on Amazon (UK) soon.
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Yes, here it is. Glad they´re airing the complete chapters (90 minutes each one).
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According to my TV Guide (Irish), "Isabel" (1st season) will commence on Sky Arts 1 next Friday, September 27th at 10pm.

I don't have Sky Arts 1 either so I really hope that a DVD version with English subtitles appears on Amazon (UK) soon.
Thanks Breffney,I just saw that too,and I've set the dvr to record the entire series!
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Thanks Breffney,I just saw that too,and I've set the dvr to record the entire series!
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So appreciate you posting this. I had read about the series and then forgotten all about it. From what I've read it appears to be in a similar vein to The Borgias and The Tudors - lavish costumes/ quite a few bedroom scenes /some elaboration of the facts.. will give it a try, if just for entertainment.
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Love these two gifs (by spanishmonarchy on Tumblr)

http://24.media.tumblr.com/00fc01bee...9qvvo1_250.gif
http://25.media.tumblr.com/53e30dfe3...9qvvo2_400.gif

And Sky Arts has on his website a clip from the chapter 1:
Video: Isabel - Sky Arts HD
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Love these two gifs (by spanishmonarchy on Tumblr)

http://24.media.tumblr.com/00fc01bee...9qvvo1_250.gif
http://25.media.tumblr.com/53e30dfe3...9qvvo2_400.gif

And Sky Arts has on his website a clip from the chapter 1:
Video: Isabel - Sky Arts HD
Thanks Annie,this time tomorrow night I'll be watching the first episode and will let you know what I think
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And I´ll be waiting for your opinion

I think the first 3-4 episodes are the worse ones, though, then they start to be pretty great (IMO).

And I´m loving the 2nd season so far (3 episodes for now).
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I'm happy because someone has uploaded episodes 1-12 of Isabel onto YouTube. Unfortunately my Spanish isn't great and there are no subtitles, but the user who posted the videos has provided a summery so from that I was able to understand what was going on. There are shorter clips with subtitles though.

I'm currently working my way through these and am on episode 3 at the moment. So far I have enjoyed it and am looking forward into watching episode 4 tomorrow.
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I must say I did enjoy the first offer last night and thankfully we had subtitles as my Spanish is quite basic. And I also found my self researching the characters,I had totally forgotten about Isabella's mother and brother .The sets and costumes were lavish,it was well acted,and not too much rumpy pumpy for the viewers in Catholic Eire

My least favourite characters were Enriques IV's queen,Joan of Portugal and wonder if the Kings relationship with Beltran de la Cueva is merely platonic.

So far thumbs up!
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Just caught up with the first episode and will certainly stick with it for now. Am I the only one who found the subtitles impossible to follow during the first 5 mins because of all the opening credits? I'm also still a little vague about the circumstances leading up to Enrique's ascendency to the throne so will have to do some research.
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Yes I also found those subtitles hard to follow at the start but after the credits it was fine.

I was hoping that Enrique's first wife,the repudiated and doomed Blanche II of Navarre would be a character in this series.
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I missed Blanche too. She´s only mentioned once in the series, as far as I can remember, which is odd, since she was Ferdinand´s (Isabella´s husband) half sister

But the series misses some interesant plots, apart from Enrique´s past and his ascession, it would have been great some more information about Ferdinand´s family in Aragon and Navarre, especially his half-siblings Blanche, Leonor and Carlos. Nothing of that appears in the show.
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I missed Blanche too. She´s only mentioned once in the series, as far as I can remember, which is odd, since she was Ferdinand´s (Isabella´s husband) half sister

But the series misses some interesant plots, apart from Enrique´s past and his ascession, it would have been great some more information about Ferdinand´s family in Aragon and Navarre, especially his half-siblings Blanche, Leonor and Carlos. Nothing of that appears in the show.
What a family Ferdinand came from with both his father,Juan III and other half sister,Eleanor I of Navarre as chief suspects in the death of poor of his older half sister Blanche II.
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