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Old 01-10-2005, 08:34 PM
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Here you can watch the speech of the king:
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Carl Gustaf: "Nobody dares to take responsibility"


If it is possible, I am even more impressed with the King in light of this tragedy. His comments here are obviously very genuine, thoughtful and even critical of his own government but for the best of intentions.

He seems to genuinely be trying to connect with the young children who have suffered incredibly in losing their parents by sharing his own pain in having lost his own father -- and to me that speaks volumes that someone would dredge up past hurts in order to help others and to share with these children that they are not alone.

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"We adults will listen to you, you who are children and young, to your stories of what you experienced and feel. Show us your drawings, your tears, sorrow and anger. We adults are here to protect and to help you."


I've never really thought of him as being a patient man, or what kind of a father he was to his children, but if this comment is any indications, he must've been a very patient, caring and protective father.

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In the most moving passage of the speech, the king asked how "parents, siblings, relatives, teachers and leaders will manage to handle the loss".

"I wish I had a good answer. Imagine if I, like the king in the fairytales, could make everything all right and end the story with "and they all lived happily ever after". But I, like you, am just a grieving, seeking person."
A very human statement; you can sense how truly helpless he feels in this entire matter. That for all the riches in the world, for all the grandeur and luxury of his various palaces and all the glitz and glamour of all the galas and events he attends, he is still like the rest of us and can't wave any magic wand to make everything right and whole again for all these children.

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Revealing that he had waited over 36 hours to be briefed on the tragedy unfolding in Asia, King Carl Gustaf said, "In certain circumstances it is better to act than to do nothing at all."


"Then we tried to get information from the foreign office... and after a lot of hassle we managed to get hold of cabinet secretary Lars Danielsson on the evening of the 27th."

The king also compared the Swedish reaction to the crisis with that of the Italians.

"We are northerners and Scandinavians. Italians are latin and react in a different way. And it is often rightly said in Sweden that we react slowly but when we do we are extremely effective and organised and go about it calmly and methodically."

But on this occasion the king hinted that in his view the Swedish approach was not necessarily the best one.

"It's better to ring the ambulance and then send it back if it's not needed. But here in Sweden it's often the case that nobody dares to take responsibility," he told DN. "People are afraid to get things going."

"I think it is important that people dare to take responsibility. Then you'll certainly be hung out to dry but it's better than passively standing by."
I wonder if heads will roll in light of this incident? While I can understand that when the tsunami first happened no one could've understood the magnitude of what was happening, 36 hours is a bit long to figure that out. (In a way I guess it partly -- but only partly, like 40 hours -- of Victoria's absence. Her parents wouldn't have thought to call her home if they themselves didn't understand how devastating things were. But after 48 hours that should've been sufficient to reach Victoria and make flight arrangments for her. That doesn't explain the six other days she was MIA.)

And speaking of Victoria, I wonder if she got any harsh words from Daddy when she finally came home. He seems to be critical of the Swedish government for taking so long to brief him -- he can't have been pleased that his heir apparent also took so long to come home.
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Old 01-11-2005, 05:33 AM
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Lena and Grand Duchess many thanks for posting the pictures from saturday and yesterday.
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The King's speech (my translation) from the National Gathering for Reflection and Fellowship yesterday, in the City Hall of Stockholm:

We have gathered to honour those who have lost their lives and those who are missing after the catastrophe in South East Asia. We think of all the near and dear, who only a few days ago were a natural part of our family, circle of friends, school class or group of siblings, but who are no longer among us. We have gathered here today to support and try to help each other in this difficult time.

What can we say to each other and what can I say, that could be of help to you all? It feels as if there are no more words, or as if they have never existed, those words that were to formulate our grief, regret, powerlessness and anger. Silence feels like the only right language before this incomprehensible, superior and inexplicable.

Rather than to hold a speech, I would really like to, in a more obvious way, try to give warmth and a new safety for all those struck. I would like to be here for each and everyone who wants to tell about their horrible experiences from the paradise that suddenly turned into hell.

But it is with words that I can pass on to all of you struck, our wish to be with you now – now when the shock is still paralysing.

I wish that I in this way can infuse hope, that one day the pain will relieve and light will be cast on the way forward, that now lies in darkness.

With words we shall now try to reach each other.

Now a new term begins in the country’s schools, after a Christmas holiday that didn’t become what we wished for. In many schools, seats will be empty. They will never again be used by those children and youths who only a few days ago sat there, with living thoughts about present, future and life. We will never know what they would have been able to make of their lives. We will also never be able to thank them for the friendship, joy and joy of life that they spread around them.

How will we be able to bear that regret? How will you, that sit in the seat next to it and you parents, siblings, family, teachers and leaders, be able to handle the loss?

I wish I had a good answer. Imagine if I, like the King in the fairy tales, could make everything right and end the story with “and then they lived happily ever after”. But I am just like you, only a grieving, searching fellow human being.

Let us all help in this effort. We adults want to listen to you, which are children and young, on your stories about what you have experienced and feel. Show us your drawings, your tears, sadness and anger. We adults are here to protect and help you.

But you can also help us adults. You do that by being with is. Before the incomprehensible, we adults are also like children, who do not have answers to why such things happen that we do not wish for to happen.

Many children have lost one or both their parents. I think I know what that means. I have myself been a child like that. My father was killed in a plane crash when I was very young. So I know what it means to grow up without a father. Compared to many other children, I had a good life, but for a child – a lost parent is always irreplaceable. I know something about that loss.

I therefore would like to ask all you, all adults close to children, to be near these children and to be keen on what they say and signal. To give them what they ask for, carefully and with caution. Uncertainty can sometimes create more anxiety than knowledge.

I, just like many other men in my generation, is not used to showing feelings. But I wish to say to all that feels this way:
Dare to show weakness, warmth and emotions. Let us dare to help. We are all only humans, without sure answers to questions about why life, that can be so full of joy and lust, suddenly becomes cruel and incomprehensible.

But to only be a human is also something great. We can be of comfort to each other, in the hard stages of live. In the grief when hopelessness seems to have a firm grip of every minute. Let us then put our masks aside and dare to be fellow beings.

If we manage this - a new confidence, a new hope, a new fellowship and a new confidence in the future – can arise from all this terrible that has happened.
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Old 01-11-2005, 08:12 PM
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I wonder if heads will roll in light of this incident? While I can understand that when the tsunami first happened no one could've understood the magnitude of what was happening, 36 hours is a bit long to figure that out. (In a way I guess it partly -- but only partly, like 40 hours -- of Victoria's absence. Her parents wouldn't have thought to call her home if they themselves didn't understand how devastating things were. But after 48 hours that should've been sufficient to reach Victoria and make flight arrangments for her. That doesn't explain the six other days she was MIA.)

And speaking of Victoria, I wonder if she got any harsh words from Daddy when she finally came home. He seems to be critical of the Swedish government for taking so long to brief him -- he can't have been pleased that his heir apparent also took so long to come home.
Thanks for the translation of the speech by the King. Now with this film, I think it´s safe to say that admiration for the King continues to grow among me and my fellow TRF members. Yes, no doubt she did. The King was also upset with the government and no doubt with SÄPO as well. I mean the excuses about not being able to contact her are ridiculous. But then again the more important issue concerning Victoria is the 6 days MIA and not the lack of communication which appeared to be the government´s fault as well.


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Is it just me or has the Swedish media not been more outspoken about Victoria's behaviour during this entire situation? She makes her first appearance after 8 days of absence bows her head and cries a bit and everything is swept under the rug? She goes back to being the perfect little princess and back high on that pedestal she has been placed.

It would bequeath Victoria and her future role a lot if she could at least understand her error in this situation so that we don't experience a repeat.

Shame on the Swedish media for completely ignoring Victoria's mistake and her very apparent lack of consideration in this matter.
This is one of the issues that has been completely ignored indeed by the Swedish media. Your points are quite right and the articles which I posted showed a strange summary of events. Like Alexandria noted, had one not been paying attention to what truly happened, one might have easily been fooled by Expressobladet´s accounts of the events of the week. Yet, we have heard no comment about this from the Swedish media. Tsk tsk tsk. And now they are lauding(Rightfully so) the King so the issue will now be pushed under the rug indeed.
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Old 01-11-2005, 09:17 PM
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Grand Duchess thank you for translating the King's speech. It was very moving to read his words. His sensitivity and compassion are so clear and his advice on approaching those who have sustained such a harsh and grievous loss(es) is excellent.
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Old 01-11-2005, 11:28 PM
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Grand Duchess thank you for translating the King's speech. It was very moving to read his words. His sensitivity and compassion are so clear and his advice on approaching those who have sustained such a harsh and grievous loss(es) is excellent.
I couldn't agree more. The King has certainly been an inspiration in light of this tragedy. And thank you very much Grand Duchess for translating the articles. Most of us wouldn't understand anything if it wasn't for you. :)
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Old 01-12-2005, 09:33 PM
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Thanks for translating this article. It´s always good to hear from the extended family. Interesting to hear her insights on her and the king´s childhood as well.
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Old 01-13-2005, 04:17 AM
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the swedish owned kamala bay garden resort in patong, has been transformed in to a temporary school for hundreds of children affected by the tsunami in thailand. air conditioned appartments have become classrooms for children who survived the quake. The happy children are allowed to use the hotel as their school for at least 3 months. On the bbc news this morning the swedish manager said "I have an empty hotel that is being rebuild and wanted to help them"
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I know the people of Sweden have every right to be disappointed in Victoria regarding her lack of support for the Swedish people during this time of need. However, this is one of the first times shes blown it. Be thankful Prince Harry of Wales isnt part of the Swedish royal family, Victoria is an angel compared to Harry
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Old 01-14-2005, 08:54 AM
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Victoria is always an angel to me regardless of what happened. But really, I doubt she will ever get anywhere near Prince Harry, she is much more mature than him. Maybe Victora did act inappropriately but as Australian said, this is probably one of the first times she's blown it. I reckon she will be a really great queen :)
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Old 01-14-2005, 08:57 AM
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Pictures of Victoria´s visit to a SVT-studio (this was an update-show, which should tell the swedish ppl, what they will do with the donated money...of course ppl could go on with donating in the show too)
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"Desperate Government attacks King"


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The secretary of Sweden’s ruling Social Democrats has attacked King Carl XVI Gustaf for his comments on Sweden’s slow reaction to the Asian tsunami. Yet if Marita Ulvskog hoped that her comments would deflect criticism of the government, these hopes were quickly dashed. Opposition parties and the media condemned the attempt to shift the focus from the government’s actions, with one paper describing the Social Democrats as ‘desperate’. And for Ulvskog the damage was compounded when Göran Persson seemed to distance himself from her comments

Ulvskog was commenting on an interview that Carl Gustaf gave to Dagens Nyheter, where he said that in Sweden, “people often refuse to take responsibility. They are afraid of taking action, as it can mean costs and that you can be held to account later.” This was widely interpreted as an attack on the government, despite the royal press office’s insistence that the king was referring to Sweden in general, and not the government in particular.

Now, with Göran Persson facing heavy criticism, Marita Ulvskog has gone on the offensive. In an interview on Swedish radio, she said that the king had “crossed a line”, and broken the constitutional rule that the monarch shall not get involved in politics. And in a barely veiled threat to the king, she implied that the so-called ‘Torvekov Compromise’ constitutional settlement could be reviewed. Under the compromise, agreed in 1971, the royal family agreed to limit its role to official entertaining, and not to get involved in politics.

By attacking the king at a time when he is more popular than ever, Ulvskog was taking a big risk. Signs that the risk was not paying off came when Göran Persson, asked about Ulvskog’s comments, told reporters that there was no reason to criticize the king, and that he had acted within his rights.

Ulvskog’s outburst seemed to have made a bad situation for the Social Democrats even worse, and Persson’s attempts to soften the blow to the government appeared likely to have a limited effect, with both the opposition and the media on the offensive.

Dagens Nyheter’s Henrik Brors has written a number of comment pieces criticizing the government’s handling of the crisis. Today he wrote that blaming the king was a sign of desperation.

The centre-right opposition parties were scathing of the government’s handling of the affair. Moderate Party leader Fredrik Reinfeldt said that Social Democrats wanted a “silent democracy”, where nobody could speak out against the government:

“Everyone is supposed to be silent: the royal house, staff at the foreign office, and the opposition,” he said. Jöran Hägglund, secretary of the Centre Party, said “it would have been better and more logical for Marita Ulvskog to have announced that the Social Democrats were going to analyze their own actions during this crisis."

Even the Social Democrats’ coalition partners have criticized Persson’s attempt to blame civil servants for the government’s tardy response to the catastrophe. Left Party leader Lars Ohly said it was “completely inappropriate” for Persson "to establish a commission [to investigate its handling of the disaster], and then say that he already has the answers.”



Sources: Dagens Nyheter, Svenska Dagbladet, Aftonbladet, Sveriges Radio



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aren't there elections in the not to soon future in Sweden? Maybe the socialists are just afraid of getting the bill for their behaviour and getting replaced by another government.
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Parliamentary and local administration elections are not until September 2006.
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Princess Birgitta to the left, the King and his father to the right (picture from a small article about the film for the Swedish Save the Children that the King will participate in, mentioned in a previous post by me

Princess Birgitta: I am moved to tears





This is my very first post on this particular thread because I haven't been able to wrap my mind around the fact that so many people lost their lives in the matter of seconds. I am happy that the world was able to unite to make sure all of those who have suffered so deeply from this tragedy are able to receive the help and support needed, though it's going to take time for the healing of the minds and hearts of the people involved. I remember Dennism showing me the speech that CG wrote, and I was floored..deeply touched by it. Minutes after reading it, I still couldn't get the speech out of my mind. It must have taken a great deal of courage to speak on something that still rubs you raw 58 years later, not saying it shouldn't but still. I like to say that my prayers are with all of the people who were involved in this tragic event, their friends and families, and also to those who are helping to clean up and bury the dead. This can't be an easy job for anyone involved. Also, I would like to give my condolences for those who lost their lives. God bless them all.
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Crown Princess Victoria was tonight a guest at TV4's programme that ended the two week long fundraising for the catastrophe. The fundraising was a cooperation between TV4, the Swedish Red Cross and Telia.

The Crown Princess said that she has since a long time planned a trip to Asia to visit different aid projects - and now she hopes that they can connect that trip with perhaps a visit to Thailand or some other country struck by the tsunami.

Let's hope for a few pics and perhaps a film clip from this appearance later.
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That is good. Brava to her. Let´s hope there indeed will be photos and a film clip.
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