The Tsunami in South East Asia (Reactions of the Swedish Royals) - Page 7

Dennism · #**121** 01-03-2005, 02:19 AM

I must have missed that story. I heard of many people who tried to save their children or their spouse and lost their lives instead. So sad.

susan alicia · #**122** 01-03-2005, 02:21 AM

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anyway when he realized that 35 mio US$ is not very much he was clever enough to increas it to 350 Mio US$. And he sent his brother there to gather some infos for him. And as governor of Florida his brother has some sort of knowledge in that things. Su one must say George was clever enough to change his opinion quickly enough when he realized that he made some mistake!

George is clever enough to surround himself with clever people who advise him well (sorry off topic, non royal)

hrhcp · #**123** 01-03-2005, 02:35 AM

I thought this story already had its happy ending:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4133751.stm

Swedish dad finds lost baby son

A Swedish toddler has had an emotional reunion with his father after being found abandoned next to a road on the stricken Thai island of Phuket. A photo of Hannes Bergstroem taken after his rescue .....

Dennism · #**124** 01-03-2005, 02:45 AM

Yes, that is a great story with a semi-happy ending. They still haven´t found his mother. But at least he has his father.

**Humera** · #**125** 01-03-2005, 03:03 AM

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I'm not clear with what you and Lena mean with "caps" ????

short for "screen capture"
I have software which lets me watch TV on the computer. Like Dennism said, you need a video card for that. And ofcourse a tv cable hooked to the computer so you can get all the channels. So basically, instead of watching tv/video on a television, i watch it on my computer. And the software allows me to save or capture any image on the screen.

Dennism · #**126** 01-03-2005, 03:10 AM

Cool. Good to know. Thanks for telling us about it. OT but we will get back on track now...:)

Lena · #**127** 01-03-2005, 07:38 AM

Pictures of Madeleine and Carl Philip leaving the TV-studio (from VG and Dagbladet):

Lena · #**128** 01-03-2005, 07:56 AM

Pictures from Fotomarktplatz:

ursulajohanna · #**129** 01-03-2005, 10:49 AM

Humera and Lena thanks for public the pics from TV-Gala. It is a great shock for all swedish and other people in the world. My thought are by the people.

Alexandria · #**130** 01-03-2005, 10:56 AM

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Getting back to the absence of Haakon, imo there appears to be no backlash there .... why, may I ask?

The other European countries have also incurred their losses, and surely all the royals there were NOT present at services. Was their absence at this MB as questioned as it is for Victoria here?

if anything, at least some (members of what's occurred to me is a "henclub" here) should render some apologies. The majority here have no influence one way or the other (or couldn't care in the least) what the internal or foreign policies of the Swedish Royal Family are.

I think there is a lack of a backlash against Haakon and the other royals because the presence of their family hasn't been as evident or as at the forefront as the King and Queen of Sweden's. While we have seen Harald and Sonja attend some church services, as we have seen Margrethe and Henrik, it seems to me that Carl Gustav and Silvia have had a much more public presence on this tragedy than their other Scandinavian counterparts. We have seen Carl Gustav issue a public statement, attend church on (two?) occasions, as well as a fundraiser, he and the Queen contributing personal monetary donations themselves.

I am not saying that the other Scandinavian royals have done less or that their contributions are less significant, just that we have seen more of the Swedish King and Queen, and hence it is natural to wonder where the CP is.

If Margrethe and Henrik had had as much of a presence from the beginning of this tragedy and Frederik and Mary didn't make any sort of appearance I think there would be as much disappointment expressed and as much of a backlash against them.

GrandDuchess · #**131** 01-03-2005, 11:28 AM

The Royal Court reports that the King and Queen visited the Karolinska University Hospital yesterday, Sunday afternoon. They received information, met with some patients who have survived the catastrophe and met with staff to whom they expressed their appreciation of their work.

Lena · #**132** 01-03-2005, 11:34 AM

Of course Haakon has "deserved" the same amount of criticism (not that it would count, the Royals high likely don´t read at TRF). We could make many excuses (if Haakon and his little family are really in Brazil, then it would have been stressy for the children to go there and a few hours again back... Norway has lost less victims...the ppl around Victoria, most of all Daniel Westling, have maybe counted on her, so that she went with/to them...4 other members of the Royal family were there...the king and the queen in both countries do a lot...Haakon and Victoria can also do something in the future-the ppl will need help and support for a longer time...)
But this simply doesn´t change the facts. Now they are not here! And that, what is disappointing me, is simply, that they don´t feel the need to help! I had (and in a way still have. It´s not, that they don´t get a "second chance") an other image of them in my mind, esp. of Victoria.

mixer2002de · #**133** 01-03-2005, 01:47 PM

If thats all fair or unfair is one thing. But I have got the impression that Viktoria is much more popular then others. As I have got the impression that the Swedish Royal Court is activley promoting her as successor to her dad (see Kings christmas speech), thats not so obvious in Norway with Hakoon for example.
On my opinion it seems as they are quite successfull in doing so. But now this strikes back. I do not believe that the public makes a difference between her father (Head of state) and and her (often credited here as: future Head of state).
Would her Dad have been staying on holiday, I think a lot of people would be quite angry about that and he would get a lot of bad press. I think its somehow unfair, but on the other hand side it really shows that Viktoria is widley accepted and is not "just" a crown princess but regarded as equal to her dad, as she is seen as "future head of state".
Thats why a lot of persons are disappointed now. If there is something to learn is that Viktoria is seen equal to her dad and that she is measured like him, a head of state. Let's hope that they manage to take care of that in future.

mixer2002de · #**134** 01-03-2005, 01:58 PM

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Victoria, most of all Daniel Westling, have maybe counted on her, so that she went with/to them...4 other members of the Royal family were there...the king and the queen in both countries do a lot...Haakon and Victoria can also do something in the future-the ppl will need help and support for a longer time...)
But this simply doesn´t change the facts. Now they are not here! And that, what is disappointing me, is simply, that they don´t feel the need to help! I had (and in a way still have. It´s not, that they don´t get a "second chance") an other image of them in my mind, esp. of Victoria.

I think Haakon should ask himself whats going on if the public does not care. This means something like: His Crown Prince, thats it. While Viktoria has to realize that the public really cares about her.
Anyway if the press writes on that she cannot say: I was happy to be on holidays with Daniel etc or some other reasons. The only thing she could do was to commit that she misestimated the whole situation and made a mistake by not going home. Excuses might get the things even worse.

Lena · #**135** 01-03-2005, 03:02 PM

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I think Haakon should ask himself whats going on if the public does not care...
Anyway if the press writes on that she cannot say...

Yes, "If". If the press won´t write about that, neither Haakon nor Victoria will spend many thoughts on their absence.

But I think you made a very good point! Haakon also got an special education, and he has given many interviews, he´s hard working and regularly in the press. But I can see the difference, you have mentioned. The Royal court and Victoria herself emphasize Victoria´s position as future queen of Sweden, partly through statements of Victoria, partly through special "happenings" for the press (just think of Victoria on this farm in 2003). In former times of sorrow she also was present as if it would be a matter of course (church service for Anna Lindh, it was even planned, that she should have attended as only one the funeral of Sweden´s beloved author Astrid Lindgren...then ppl protested and her parents attended as well).
Yes, I think you are right...the focus on Victoria (she gives most interviews for the press, tells often about her role as future queen...), I guess this is one reason, why we here react so strongly. She isn´t just the "replacement" for the future, but already an important part of the monarchy.

Ariel · #**136** 01-03-2005, 03:30 PM

Hi everyone,

Does the press say when Victoria is coming back? are there some news related to her absence?

susan alicia · #**137** 01-03-2005, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by mixer2002de

I think Haakon should ask himself whats going on if the public does not care. This means something like: His Crown Prince, thats it. While Viktoria has to realize that the public really cares about her.
Anyway if the press writes on that she cannot say: I was happy to be on holidays with Daniel etc or some other reasons. The only thing she could do was to commit that she misestimated the whole situation and made a mistake by not going home. Excuses might get the things even worse.

you would think that in scandinavian countries a crown prince or princess are equals.