Questions about Titles

[NGalitzine]

Originally Posted by Grandduchess24

What are princess astrid's children's titles
HI&RH or HRH?

Their fathers title was HIRH Archduke Lorenz of Austria Este. Their mother is HRH Princess Astrid of Belgium. Their grandfather also created them HRH Prince/Princess of Belgium as well as creating their father HRH Prince of Belgium.
Thus they are HRH of Belgoim and HIRH of Austria Este.

[Hans-Rickard]

Originally Posted by Artemisia

Unlike most European Royal Houses, the line of the succession to the Swedish Throne is very limited. Originally determined by the articles of the 1810 Constitution (which included all agnatic Bernadotte descendants), the 1980 changes limited the succession only to the descendants of the current king, Carl XVI Gustaf, excluding all other Bernadotte branches. Thus, there are currently, there are only four people in it - Crown Princess Victoria, Princess Estelle, Prince Carl-Philip and Princess Madeline.

Even if the Crown Princess goes on to have 2-3 more children, Prince Carl Philip will still be very high in the succession line; as such, it is extremely likely that his children will be Royal Highnesses. They will also most probably be given titles, though not Dukedoms - Earldoms are much more likely.

Princess Madeline's husband is likely to have titles jure uxoris (though his wife), thus becoming Duke of Halsingland and Gastrikland, just as Prince Daniel is Duke of Vastergotland. Their children will likely be nobles but not royals; in other words, they won't be Royal Highnesses but will probably have courtesy titles of counts and countesses.

Earldoms don't exist in Sweden. The King of Sweden can't bestow any noble titles since many years. The only titles he is allowed to give is prince/princess and duke/duchess to members of the royal family.

[Meraude]

Originally Posted by Artemisia

Thus, there are currently, there are only four people in it - Crown Princess Victoria, Princess Estelle, Prince Carl-Philip and Princess Madeline.

Even if the Crown Princess goes on to have 2-3 more children, Prince Carl Philip will still be very high in the succession line; as such, it is extremely likely that his children will be Royal Highnesses. They will also most probably be given titles, though not Dukedoms - Earldoms are much more likely.

Princess Madeline's husband is likely to have titles jure uxoris (though his wife), thus becoming Duke of Halsingland and Gastrikland, just as Prince Daniel is Duke of Vastergotland. Their children will likely be nobles but not royals; in other words, they won't be Royal Highnesses but will probably have courtesy titles of counts and countesses.

I would guess that the same rules will apply to both the children of Carl Philip and Madeleine, whether it's getting the title HRH and/or a Dutchy or not, if Madeleine keeps her royal title after marriage. She had planned to keep her title if she had married Jonas Bergström, there are no reason why she should have changed her mind now.

[Josefine]

there were a article in aftonbladet i think were the king said there is a reason and a tradition why Estelle got the dukedom östergotland, but he did not want to say why but there is a explanation if you look to the traditions.

why do you think she got that dukedom?

[Esmerelda]

Originally Posted by Josefine

there were a article in aftonbladet i think were the king said there is a reason and a tradition why Estelle got the dukedom östergotland, but he did not want to say why but there is a explanation if you look to the traditions.

why do you think she got that dukedom?

Well, the last duke of Ostergotland was Prince Carl Bernadotte, whose parents were Prince Carl and Princess Ingeborg- Duke and Duchess of Vastergotland (Victoria's dukedom). Other than that I can't think why.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Carl_Bernadotte