June 6, 2004 - Sweden's National Day

[mixer2002de]

Originally posted by Philippos
No, in 2003 he got SEK 45.3 million from the Parliament (for the expenses of the Castles) and SEK 34.3 million from gate money. [/b]

So whats that expensive than? that he is missing 2 mio sek? its about 200.000 Euros thats pretty much if you do not have them!

Anyway but the crown prince in denmark gehts abou 1 mio euros. And 4.5 Euros just him. Is Victoria getting her own money?

[Dennism]

All of this is atrocious. Being a Socialist does not mean that you have to gut the funding for the historical monuments of your country. What is next, then? Are they going to allow the desecration of runic stones? A person may not like the monarchy or the policies of past leaders but these are historical monuments. They are part of the national identity. Shame on the Swedish government for letting this happen. They are symbols of the past( Du tronar på minnen från fornstora dar, då ärat Ditt namn flög över jorden.) that need to be maintained. Their beauty and grandeur should not be spoiled because of political beliefs. It´s silly and petty and it needs to be stopped. But perhaps I am overreacting just a little bit. The history of any country is important and I hate to see public funding for the national monuments gutted in such a way.

[mixer2002de]

Originally posted by Dennism@Jun 9th, 2004 - 12:15 pm
All of this is atrocious. Being a Socialist does not mean that you have to gut the funding for the historical monuments of your country.

Socialists are not far away from Kommunists and Kommunists are idiots!

[GrandDuchess]

The economy of the Court Administration - 48 million SEK from the State
The economy of the Palace Administration - 46 million SEK from the State
The economy of the Royal Djurgården Administration - self funded (ca 50 million SEK run through it)
The private economy of the Royal Family - The members of the Royal House's private money, as well as Solliden and Stenhammar's administrations

From the Royal Court's website:

THE OFFICE OF THE GOVENOR OF THE ROYAL PALACES
Head: the Governor of the Royal Palaces. The Royal Palaces (Stockholm, Drottningholm, the Chinese Pavilion, Ulriksdal, Haga, Rosendal, Gripsholm, Strömsholm, Tullgarn and Rosersberg), together with Royal Djurgården, are owned by the State but, by agreement in 1809/10 between Karl XIII and the Estates of the Realm, are at the disposal of the Royal Family. It is the task of the Office, within the scope of this right of user, to manage the Royal Palaces and Royal Djurgården with their appurtenant buildings, parks, gardens, estates and woodlands and to actively upgrade the asset, in terms of cultural and natural heritage, which the Palaces and Djurgården represent. The brief also includes the Royal Manor of Drottningholm. Four Palace Administrations and the Royal Djurgården Administration handle day-to-day activities. The Royal Djurgården Administration is responsible for the activity at Ulriksdal Palace Administration.

The National Property Board (SFV) is responsible for the maintenance and running of the Royal Residences, with the exception of Stockholm Palace, which is run by the Administration of the Royal Palace of Stockholm. The Royal Djurgården Administration is a self-supporting economic unity with its own buildings.

H.M. the King's Council on Questions of Land and Buildings exists to advise the King on matters affecting State-owned land and buildings at the King's disposal. The Council meets twice yearly, under the King's chairmanship and, in addition to the Marshal of the Realm and the Governor of the Royal Palaces, includes representatives of the Riksdag, the Royal Academy of Sciences, the Central Board of National Antiquities, the National Property Board and the City of Stockholm. The Office includes the Palace Architects.

The Office of the Governor of the Royal Palaces also includes Governors of the Ten Royal Palaces, a Superintendent of Parks, Palace Head Gardeners, Gardeners, Groundsmen, a Director of Building Operations, a Chief Engineer, Maintenance technicians, Supervisors of the Royal Palaces, Master of the Royal Hunt, Administrative Officer, a Park Engineer, Carpenters, Painters, Palace Guards, Caretakers, Overseers and Foremen. Large numbers of casual staff are also employed, especially in the summer season.

Here you can read more about the economy (old sums of money though)

[mixer2002de]

But the question:

How to make a loss of about 2.2 Mio SEK is unanswerd. Your post of minor interest as it gives no answers. You could give him no money and he could earn money. Why has he had a loss! To few money than you have to give him more obviously. Managment problems? Than someone of the parliament should help him to fix this! Or maybe rent Stockholm Palace to a big company as their headquarter to gain extra revenues

Maybe Bill Gates would pay a lot of money for a nice representative new headquarte in Northern Europe. It would be so royal

[GrandDuchess]

Well I don’t know exactly what is behind the deficit – but running a whole Royal Court and all it included is indeed expensive! And yet The King has also expressed earlier that there’s so much more he would like to do, but can’t because there is no more money. He had at one time said that he would like to develop the showings of the Royal Palaces.

Quote from the Royal Court's annual report for 2003:
“A review of the organisation and the activities of the displaying to the public has been started. The goal is to make it possible for even more people to visit the Royal Palaces and thereby also increase the income and make it possible to improve the care of the rich cultural heritage that the Palaces and its inventories and parks represent”

[mixer2002de]

Originally posted by GrandDuchess@Jun 9th, 2004 - 6:08 pm


Quote from the Royal Court's annual report for 2003:
“A review of the organisation and the activities of the displaying to the public has been started. The goal is to make it possible for even more people to visit the Royal Palaces and thereby also increase the income and make it possible to improve the care of the rich cultural heritage that the Palaces and its inventories and parks represent”

So they try to figure out. Aren't there any results yet. Halftime in 2004. SO if you do not know whats the problem you will have a loss again!

[Dennism]

Originally posted by GrandDuchess@Jun 9th, 2004 - 7:08 pm
He had at one time said that he would like to develop the showings of the Royal Palaces.

A very good idea. Give the public more opportunities to put to see the beautiful tapestries and paintings.

[Philippos]

Originally posted by mixer2002de@Jun 10th, 2004 - 1:15 am
So they try to figure out. Aren't there any results yet. Halftime in 2004. SO if you do not know whats the problem you will have a loss again!

I think, that the cause of the loss is quite obvious. The Royal Court does not get enough money in order to fulfil its obligation to take good care of this part of our cultural heritage. But hopefully, this year and the years to come, the Court will get more gate money.

[mixer2002de]

Originally posted by Philippos+Jun 9th, 2004 - 11:27 pm--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Philippos @ Jun 9th, 2004 - 11:27 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin-mixer2002de@Jun 10th, 2004 - 1:15 am
So they try to figure out. Aren't there any results yet. Halftime in 2004. SO if you do not know whats the problem you will have a loss again!

I think, that the cause of the loss is quite obvious. The Royal Court does not get enough money in order to fulfil its obligation to take good care of this part of our cultural heritage. But hopefully, this year and the years to come, the Court will get more gate money. [/b][/quote]
You also could start an adoption program. Adopt a piece of art! And sponsor its renewal! Therefore getting a prominent place in the Building where this things are kept. Like a Zoo does this and so on!

[Philippos]

Originally posted by mixer2002de+Jun 10th, 2004 - 11:52 am--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (mixer2002de @ Jun 10th, 2004 - 11:52 am)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>

I think, that the cause of the loss is quite obvious. The Royal Court does not get enough money in order to fulfil its obligation to take good care of this part of our cultural heritage. But hopefully, this year and the years to come, the Court will get more gate money.

You also could start an adoption program. Adopt a piece of art! And sponsor its renewal! Therefore getting a prominent place in the Building where this things are kept. Like a Zoo does this and so on![/b][/quote]

Well... That would be an idea, but I don't know, if the Court has thought about that option. Perhaps it would be good; I think, that the people care more about our cultural heritage than the politicians do, so the Palace Administration would surely get some more money that way.

[Alva]

Originally posted by King Christian@Jun 6th, 2004 - 4:30 pm
Who's this red dressed beauty here?

That is Björn von Sydows wife. Björn von Sydow is the Talman =spokeman(?) of Riksdagen, the parliament. Being this he is the second most prominent man in Sweden, just after the King himself. The rank is higher than statsministern, the prime minister, Göran Persson because he is the man you makes the parliament spin regardless of political views. I think that at 6 juni the talman is the host and therefore he and his wife ( or she and her husband as it was with Talman Birgitta Dahl) is sitting at the front row with the Royal Family.

[Dennism]

Originally posted by Alva@Jun 13th, 2004 - 5:16 am

That is Björn von Sydows wife. Björn von Sydow is the Talman =spokeman(?) of Riksdagen, the parliament. Being this he is the second most prominent man in Sweden, just after the King himself. The rank is higher than statsministern, the prime minister, Göran Persson because he is the man you makes the parliament spin regardless of political views. I think that at 6 juni the talman is the host and therefore he and his wife ( or she and her husband as it was with Talman Birgitta Dahl) is sitting at the front row with the Royal Family.

Speaker of the parliament. He was also the first person to speak after the Royal Family arrived on the scene.

[GrandDuchess]

More pics from Sweden's National Day 2004 - Part 1:

[GrandDuchess]

More pics from Sweden's National Day 2004 - Part 2: