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yes, great pics. thanks.
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Thanks for the Colourpress images. This one of the King and Queen is wonderful:

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Yesterday, I saw a programme on Biography Channel at 9.30 p.m. about the Spanish Royal Family. In 30 minutes they made a profile of the kings and their sons. I don’t know if they are going to repeat again this week but it was great to see more precisely their lives.

They said lots of things, such as: their wedding ring were made by an ancient Greek coin that were convert in two wedding rings to Juan Carlos and Sofia; that Elena was the sensitive of the family, Cristina was the sporty and funniest and Felipe was the one that was more closer to the mother and talks 5 languages.

It was said also in that programme that Juan Carlos don’t want to be grandpa before 60. The first grandson (Frolian) was born 6 month after Juan Carlos made his 60 years.

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Did you know that the kings have 25 dogs and 12 cats? That the kings of Spain were during 13 years princes of the Asturias? That Juan Carlos and Sofia have each other, 2 employees who help them in the morning? That in the Zarzuela works 160 persons incluiding dogs' trainers, etc.? That Irene has her apartment herself in the Zarzuela? That the prince Tchokotua " Zu ", intimate friend of the king, helped him to have the palace of Marivent, without any cost?

Where the things that i read about the SRF. (http://andorra.indymedia.org/print.php?id=647 )
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Did you know that the kings have 25 dogs and 12 cats? That the kings of Spain were during 13 years princes of the Asturias? That Juan Carlos and Sofia have each other, 2 employees who help them in the morning? That in the Zarzuela works 160 persons incluiding dogs' trainers, etc.? That Irene has her apartment herself in the Zarzuela? That the prince Tchokotua " Zu ", intimate friend of the king, helped him to have the palace of Marivent, without any cost?

Where the things that i read about the SRF. (http://andorra.indymedia.org/print.php?id=647 )
The Kings were not Princes of Asturias. The Prince's title of Asturias is reserved to the inheritor to the Wreath, and in this epoch in Spain there was a dictatorship. The Title that they were using was that of Princes of Spain.
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i'm sorry. I didn't know. But i have your help in this matter. I like much more the title Princes of Spain.:)
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i'm sorry. I didn't know. But i have your help in this matter. I like much more the title Princes of Spain.:)
The Princes' title of Asturias is also very nice, is a historical title joined the history of Spain and her monarchy.
The Princes' title of Spain, probably for this pro-Franco recollection to my how that not like me much.
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I think this is a picture of the Queen & Cristina in Barcelona visiting the newborn son of Princess Alexia of Greece.

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I think this is a picture of the Queen & Cristina in Barcelona visiting the newborn son of Princess Alexia of Greece.

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The Queen Sofia and the Infanta Cristina in the Clinic Teknon visiting Alexia and her son Carlos.

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Last Monday, queen Sofia, along with her daughter, Infanta Cristina, her sister, Irene of Greece, her brother Constantin and her niece Teodora went to a restaurant of Barcelona, to celebrate the birth of little Carlos, the new born son of princess Alexia of Greece.
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1975-2005, thirty years of reign More juancarlistas, less monarchical

23-F: The night of the alternative
Was the most long night of the monarch. And the most important one; so much, that marked a before and a later in its reign.
It was prepared to play a party of squash in The Operetta when they notified him that some civil guards had taken the Courts. Immediately, changed the racquet by the telephone and it did not free to almost entrance the average night. It was 6.20 of the afternoon of February 23, 1981 .
To that hour, voted itself in the Career of San Jerónimo the investiture of Bald Sotelo as the president of the Government, after the resignation of Suarez. It was when Wove burst with their men in the Chamber, rose to the tribunal of speakers and pronounced a phrase that of to have had the representative minutes lieutenant colonel instead of tricornio and gallons, to have passed to the anal of the parlamentarismo Spanish as one of the most famous: "¡they feel, coño!"
The order, accompanied by shots al air, was obeyed without discussion by the parliamentary body in block, save Suarez, Cart and Gutiérrez Mellado, who was faced valerosamente with the assailants. Once it controlled the situation, Wove announced to the Camera that obeyed "orders of the King and of the general one Milans of the Bosch, general captain of Valencia". Was the first time that the figure of the monarch left mouth of one of the conspirators.
Without news of Juan Carlos Gabriel Cisneros, one of the parents of the Constitution, occupied that late one its seat in the Congress when entered Wove, like a Pavía of the 20th century, but without horse. "I felt physical fear, but not political fear", says. "Was all so anachronistic, went so the wrong way of the to feel of the Spaniards, that that could not succeed". As for if the King could be among drops, moving the threads of the conspiracy, Cisneros he is unequivocal: "Never I thought him. Another thing is that they thought it some of the conspirators".
Some? Or all, as maintains Javier Dusmet, adhering to captain the Hardened Brigade Brunete when the 23-F. "Of all I informed me on the march. Some hours before, my friend the Brown commander counted him me. He told me that he was a matter of a blow of rudder to reorient the situation. Not one must forget, among others things, that ETA killed a day yes and another also, and that to the corpses he was removed him for the back door to bury them.
I accepted to embark upon the adventure because Brown he told me that besides Milans, was the King. I believed him me because Brown he was convinced. And not only he, but the remainder", he says Dusmet being referred the soldiers that took part.
The skeptics of the official versions see in the almost seven hours elapsed since it takes of the Congress by Wove to the allocution televised of the King the sign that the monarch was the indisputable captain of the squad conspirator. According to the friends of the theory of the conspiracy, the King would have been directed to the nation when saw that the possibilities of success of the uprising were remotísimas. But there are witnesses of the action of Mr. Juan Carlos that night that dismantle, point by point, this theory. As the Jesus Picatoste, journalist that recorded for TVE the message of the King ordering the golpistas to depose its attitude.
"¡Throwing milks for television!" It maintains Picatoste that what happened the 23-F cannot be interpreted only with the analysis sesudo of documents: "should predominate the testimony of the direct sources". For the journalist, some shades would suffice for "to outline" the mood with which was confronted the crisis in The Operetta. Then, ¿it did the King as much as was able for delaying its message? "Not.
Themselves would have earned time if in Operetta they had arranged of the necessary media to emit in direct. On the other hand, my team and I we could not abandon Field of the King, taken by the golpistas, to that of the nine, when our director ordered it us stealthy, Fernando Castedo.
Al to arrive at Palace, the recording delayed until near the 12 because the circumstances advised it: the King continued al he speaks with the general captains, what shows that if to have been behind would not be able to have had easier: an order had sufficed its". Was the monarch a bunch of nerves? "For nothing. It knew perfectly what did. It infected serenity. Not even in the prior minutes to the recording lost its sense of humor. Joked with the Prince at the cost of my surname".

And the moment of the recording arrived. Juan Carlos, of general captain, without makeup neither touches, to save time. And the message that has to be recorded two times, because in the first one the monarch has encountered itself a word and because not a copy of security comes badly. "¿Now?", it asks the King to Picatoste. "¡Now!", this it responds him, "¡therefore throwing milks for Spanish Television!" The message of the King emitted to the 1.15 of the early morning sentenced the blow. It was question of hours that Milans ordered in Valencia to return to its cars to the barrackings, that Wove was delivered to the doors of the Courts and that the double play of the Armed general was uncovered, that had passed the afternoon night of the 23-F putting him a candle al King and another to the golpistas. Of all forms, hours ago that the lifting had gone losing bellows.
The leaf of route designed by the espadones contemplated takes it of the Congress and the lifting of the general headquarters. To be thus, only Wove and Milans would have completed its part. In the Hardened Division Brunete, the captain Dusmet did not fit in itself of indignation. "We knew that the general captains had news of the matter and now they intended that all he remained in which a pirado, that would be Wove, had mounted a pitote in the Congress. Therefore not mister, did not we be going to permit it. Therefore, when already it was all lost, the Brown commander, three captains and I we caught a company of the Military Police and we enclose us with Wove in the Congress, so that remained constancy that the Army also was. During the trip in the Jeep, we hear the speech of the King and we said: ?¡Hombre, another that is thrown back?"
The high sense of the loyalty cost to Dusmet two years of jail, during the ones that he and their companions of pronouncement they spoke long and laid out. "The conclusion to which we arrive was that was a matter of an operation orchestrated by sinister hands to consolidate the democracy and the Crown. And we think? therefore looks, of something has served? That is to say, that us did not seem badly of the all", says Dusmet with a laughter.
Of republicans to juancarlistas Conspiracy or not, the 23-F marked a before and a later in the reign of Juan Carlos. It says Cisneros that that night, "the left hemisphere of the political life, that up to now had tolerated him, like a lot, saw al King as what was: the guarantor of the rights and public liberties". Thus, Cart changed the joker "Juan Carlos the Brief one" with which referred al monarch by a respectful one "Mr. Juan Carlos".
Many republicans went to bed and they raised themselves juancarlistas, reprinting thus the idea of the recognition of exercise in detriment of that of origin. The left forgot that Juan Carlos was the successor of Franco "to title of King" and that had sworn the Fundamental Principles of the State, and he began to see it as the "King of all the Spaniards", old delirium Bourbon fact reality.
In final, that of the 23-F was for the King the night of the alternative. And in spite of the fact that, at the request of the public, al turned around bullring, there was fans in the laid out that told not with the finger, moving apparent the sideways arm to side. Continues them having. Not already because they suspect of his to proceed the 23-F, but because they think that that night Juan Carlos removed some oppositions to monarch and he fell conveniently to see them to come, as if the Crown and the throne did not there was that to gain them to him day by day. With the sweat of the front.
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Survey of Sigma Two for EPOCA

The Spaniards require to the Crown utility and transparency The Spaniards are more juancarlistas than monarchical, judging by some data of the survey with the one that we open a dossier of 50 pages on the King, when they are on the verge of being complied 30 years of the coronation of Juan Carlos I. We analyze the past and the present of the reign with articles of noticeable specialists as Ricardo of the Doe, Stanley G. Payne and Ramón Pi.

1.- ¿Consider you that the Monarchy will continue being useful for Spain in the 21st century?
Although the majority of the polled by Sigma Two for EPOCH consider that the monarchy will continue being useful for Spain in the 21st century, there is a significant percentage (almost the 30%) that the contrary thing thinks. The 58% it believes in that utility, while the 29,6% maintains the contrary thing. To this stripe of skepticism one must add a 12,4% of tested that themselves they are not pronounced -the ones that do not know, do not they answer.
The age of the polled is a sociological factor that, in this case, is particularly prominent. Almost the half of the youngest, (from 18 to 29 years) - the 44,7%- do not they see utility to the monarchy in the 21st century. While, among the most greater (more than 65 years) are majority -the 70%- the ones that yes believe in the utility of the institution. That is to say, that to less age, more skepticism with respect to the Crown.

2.- ¿Believe you that is necessary a greater transparency in the budget assigned to the Real Family?
An oppressing majority of the polled (concretely, the 70,9%) considers that the annual assignment that the royal household receives of the General Budgets of the State (7,7 million euro in 2005, that is to say, 1.281 million pesetas) is not it sufficiently explained before the Spanish public opinion and demands a greater transparency in the finances of the monarch.
The demand enlarges among the youngest (the 74% of them consulted from among 18 and 29 years) and reaches the highest elevation among the voters of the Spanish Socialist Party (74,7%). By sexes, the women grant smaller importance al matter that the men: 72,3% set against 69,6%.
Along the three decades of reign of Juan Carlos I, the economic assignment that the monarch receives of the public treasury for the exercise of its functions and the maintenance of its House has been object of polemics. Since diverse sectors comes itself demanding an explanation detailed of the distribution that the monarch does of this budget among the members of its family -the Queen, the Prince and the Infants-, al style of the call? ready civil? of other European monarchies.

3.- ¿Believe you that the Monarchy contributes adequate to guarantee the integrity from Spain set against the nationalist options?
The political debate on the integrity of Spain is on the covering and the poll of Sigma Two offers some data that can turn out to be illustrative. The majority of the polled considers that the monarch guarantees adequate the unit (56%); but he is not desdeñable the portion of who they believe the contrary thing (a 28%) and the percentage of indifferent (16%).
Among the voters of the Popular Party of the last elections, the 67% believes that the Monarchy yes guarantees the integrity of Spain, which turns out to be surprising, since a very different reaction from the supporters of the right before the present one is supposed órdago nationalist. Less rare the high percentage of voters of the Spanish Socialist Party results that also believes that the Monarchy contributes to maintain the integrity. Another significant data is of the voters of United Left: nothing less than the 53% considers that the institution does not guarantee the unit set against the nationalist options.

4.- ¿Believe you that the Government of Shoemaker is utilizing politically the figure of the King?
The 22,8% of them they interviewed judges that the Government of Rodríguez Zapatero is utilizing al monarch for the benefit of its political interests. The percentage of discontent enlarges among the voters of the Popular Party (25,3%); the supporters of the Spanish Socialist Party deny mainly (69,2%) that this situation is being produced. The question acquires a high percentage among the ones that neither they know neither they answer.

5.- ¿The marriage of Mrs Letizia with the Prince Felipe believe you that favors or damages the continuity of the Monarchy?
Letizia Ortiz surpasses the test of income in the Real Family: only the 6,7% of them consulted considers that its marriage with the Heir damages the image of the Institution. The 61,3% it thinks that the arrival of Letizia to the royal household favors that image, while the 26% believes that is indifferent. The princess that changed the plató of television by the Crown has more partisan among the women (63% set against 59% of men).
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A real family since, in 1793, the invention of the doctor Guillotin separated the head of the body of Luis XVI, the monarchies have lost their mythical character.
It is not strange that in our company, posilustrada, and in it was of the free competition, some they consider relic trasnochada a hereditary institution, where the blood and not the merit is the factor of spare. As it underlines Rafael Borrás in statements to EPOCH, it more harmonious with these times is the Republic. This "it is governed for the reason, and on the other hand, the Monarchy by the chance".

In the abstract, the refrain sounds well. But in our case (Spain continues being different), two memories contrasted weigh on the memory: the optimum one, left by the role of this king in the complex one envite of the Transition, and the very bad one, left by the two republican experiences.

That explains that Spain be more juancarlista than monarchical, as tells itself vox populi... al less, up to now.

But, ¿and in the future? When they be increasingly more distant the Transition and the two first republics. The survey of Sigma Two of this summer extra number contributes an interesting data. Although the majority believes that the Monarchy will continue being useful for Spain in the 21st century, a percentage swims desdeñable (almost the 30%) thinks the contrary thing. Significantly, almost the half of the polled less than 29 years him does not see utility to the Monarchy in the future. The contrary thing that an immense majority (the 70,2%) of the greater of 65.

That is to say, to less age, more skepticism with respect to the Crown. It is logical to suppose that the tendency will go increasing with the time. Of what depends that the famous prophecy of Faruk of Egypt and the pack comply not in Spain? Without doubt, of the exemplary nature of the King. Many exist imponderables, but the exemplary nature is the only variable that the monarch can control. It is what did in the beginning of its reign: when its historical role in the Transition was gained.

The constitutional monarchs are almost tied of feet and hands, in comparison with its ancestors of the absolutism, but, paradoxical, all depends on its action. It indicates it Sabine Fernández Field in the interview of Maite Alfageme. The words of the former leader of the House of the King constitute all a leaf of route: "If we analyze the Constitution, the King has very few initiatives, but yes a moderating power, a faculty of exemplary nature" ... "That moderating power exercises beforehand or does not be right to be", affirms Fernández Field in allusion al órdago of the nationalists.

The exemplary nature can cover other many aspects. Since one as sensitive as the money (there is that 70% of polled that ask more transparency in the budget of the Real Family) to another as crucial as the model of family.

The Real Family is, at the same time, a real family. That is to say, a mirror in which millions of Spaniards look at herself. And in a moment in which the basic cell of the company is in crisis. Which elevates the degree of responsibility of Mr. Juan Carlos and its successor, Mr. Felipe.

The family and the marriage -the marriage, not the unions against nature- are previous al State and necessary so that all the tinglado come not down. Without them, it was finished: we return to the forest. Not, do not they have the easy. But we neither. Being a family in the 21st century is going to put almost as difficult as to be king. But with a difference: only the family is indispensable.

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The historian narrates the trajectory of the monarch, being centered in the social climate of 1938, year of the birth of the King.AnalysisEve of KingsThe date was indicated although it happened inadvertent: 5 of January of 1938, eve of Kings in Spain and birth of a boy in Rome, that was called Juan Carlos de Borbón and Borbón. Slight mentions on the following day in the Roman press, absolute silence in the Spanish press of one and another zone.

Few people know that at those moments, two million Spaniards, the highest number of History, faced until death in the terrible winter of that year, the most frozen and windy of century XX the worse thing is than all of them did not know why they fought. They said antifascist when in the enemy it only formed a small group of intellectuals to those who the name of facists agreed.

Their enemies were called officially national, but they were fighting against another average nation. Neither in the rebellious press nor transmitters, nor of course in those of the Popular Front, the smaller news appeared the 7 of January on the birth of that boy.

Nevertheless, that Roman boy was destined to become the most important figure for the history of Spain in century XX and beginnings of the century XXI, that would become position of an impossible mission: to obtain that the survivors of those two million Spaniards, next to their children and their grandsons, coexisted in a common Spain, recovered, with the objective common to live and to let live, after to have buried in an enormous ditch of History to 300,000 deads, victims of hatred and its cause, the fear.

Pope Pío XI, to whom corresponded to baptize that Roman boy, did not dare so that they did not accuse to him of partisan; the Vatican still conserved diplomatic relations with the Spanish Republic, that really no longer existed: that was another thing. And it maintained semiclandestine relations with other Spain, the national call, by means of an apostolic delegate.

New born it left winning; he baptized the cardinal to him Eugene Pacelli, Secretary of State, that the following year would be one of the greatest Popes of history, with the name of Pío XII. That boy - today king Don Juan Carlos I enjoys already one pretends biographical glory. He only pretends.

Some biographical test with airs of Oxford the one of Charles Powell- is penetrating and useful. Other very spread - the one of Jose Luis de Vilallonga, Marquess of I do not know that ' - seems to me melonada; the author has spoken long with the King but a word of History does not know. Another author, in this spoiled case - professor Javier Tusell, q.e.p.d. - knows History but she has almost not spoken with the King.

There are other smaller, sometimes atrocious biographies - a King blow to blow, of tufo ETA -, other aggressive ones - Borbones masones and These Borbones wants to us to govern, of an unfaithful servant -, and other grotesque ones, like one been born in the North American fundamentalism that identifies to Don Juan Carlos with the Antichrist. Some moves by the opposite field and demonstrates that the King is really King of Jerusalem, not only by title, and the last piston rod of the House of David, that gave to origin to the dynasty merovingia.

With such antecedents I feel the pressing temptation more and more to mainly add me to that rutilante list of biographers, when memory that Don Juan Carlos, during ours first interview in 1972, said to me exactly: "I like your books because they do not have anything of lameculismo". Of course that just by to refer another conversation - in this case of six hours and on board of the yacht Isa V, in the bay of Palm, the year crucial of to 1977- explained the keys me of the Transition that then ran by the line of summits.

I do not know if I will want to have time for that biographical project, but desire to gather together it to undertake a history of the Transition that is had of foot and that inevitably will offer biographical chapters: from explaining the inexplicable regal mission entrusted to Manuel Prado and Columbus de Carvajal near Rumanian dictator Ceaucescu to the greeting to epistolar of the King to Santiago Cheek the same night in which a cowardly and antihistorical force demolished the last statue of Franc in Madrid. But now they entrust notes to me on the trajectory of the King until its oath as so and something with substance I must aim.

To Don Juan Carlos their mentors and the most complicated circumstances by which there were to cross robbed good part to him of their childhood and its adolescence. Likeable by borbónica nature, never he stopped being a sad prince. It did not include/understand the evident hostility between his father, Don Juan, and general Franco, but the story arrived to guess its causes and to be applied.

I appear between the historians for those who the deprived life of the princes is public life, conviction who do not share some authorities of la Real Academy of History, and thus are from boring (and empty) its libracos, a day I have them to detail.

The confrontation of groups to take control of the education of the prince, settled by the forceful one retired of the jesuitas "before the lamentable experiences that to us History offers" - wrote a general father -, principis offers a very flavorful elucidarium. With my friends Eugene Fertile valleys Latapie and Carlos Martinez of Fields (to that Pío Baroja, in its memories military, calls Duke of the Seo de Urgel equivocadamente, would be Duke of the Tower), I spoke and I intuited many things on the person and the formation of the prince.

Now I am studying very thorough masonería in its sources and have resonant cards on the masónicas approaches to the Spanish Real House in century XX. The books of Laureano Lopez Rolled, contrasted with my conversations with admiral White Carrero, are fundamental and during years I could discuss them with him in our frequent encounter.

Most serious he is than that sad prince, to who they considered like trick and others like hostage, had to surpass some transcendental moments of his completely single life. In order to alleviate his solitude he had, since they knew themselves, an exceptional woman: princess Sofía. To pound Urban has included/understood very well delicate, subtle and the even dangerous thing of that relation that is based mainly on the enormous sacrifice of Reina assumed by Spain, with success and pain that never we will be able to be thankful to him.

And we arrived at this. The provocations, on the brink of madness suicide, of president Rodriguez Zapatero. The socialist anticrossed one against the Catholic Church, that it has pushed against his will the own King until making him put the leg with the unfortunate comparison with Balduino of Belgium (and that consists that to me regate of Balduino when leaving Corona by hours seems to me that, regate infantile). The masónicas approaches, that have been very serious and still present/display points more than dark.

The irrational phobia against religious education. The contaminations of the right made feel inferior with the third Free Institution of Education, that seems to me in its present version more dangerous than the first and most threatening one than second.

The position of the King before these problems of bottom is comprometidísima. These days thorough study the reach of the moderating power that attributes to him to the Constitution and on which I fear serious attempts of cut, although that power saved to Spain the 23 of February of 1981. Meanwhile, we do not lose of Vista the historical-personal problems of the Transition in restricted sense: the integration of the socialism in the monarchic system, the problems of the flag and the flags, the title, not simply symbolic, of King Cato'lico.

' maricomplejines'
At the moment, a light torrent comes me from the hill of the Talarn, in front of the Non-commissioned officer school. Very dangerous Mr. Bono, on who I prepare a monographic study that will offer great surprises, allowed - it seems that Mr. Carod-Rovira or his minions took stones that cried out on the death by Spain.

Suddenly it is let speak of the subject, but somehow, with stones or an obvious plate, the death by Spain returns to shine in the stop. Then I decide to me that enormidad that approved Cortes with the complicity of maricomplejines of the PP: "the 18 of July were a facist military coup".

And a delegated horn, gentlemen. Many, and I trust that among them the King, we continued believing in which the bishops of Mr. Lopez Aguilar said: the 18 of July were a civic-military movement against a degraded Popular Front, that now - according to it seems wants to return. Against that Popular Front the Army did not rise, that in good part remained with him.

The 18 of July were not a facist military coup but a civic-military movement whose military element was formed not simply by people of uniform but by the youth of the Army, including a 90% of the young officials and the sergeant majors. Those that form in the Talarn.

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The author analyzes the keys of an exciting historical processAnalysisThe contradictions of Juan CarlosCentury XX was not benevolent with the monarchies. Most of them they were demolished, while some individual kings were assassinated of the most atrocious way, until with all its family, as in the case of the Russian czar. Spain step almost half century without monarch, although a considerable part of that time was a theoretical monarchy.

Meanwhile, the Spanish Royal Family happened through all class of internal traumas, with the three of the children of Alfonso tragedy and XIII diseases of two of the piston rods of Don Juan, with an infant an infant killed in accident by his own brother blinds and.

Vista with historical perspective, the fall of the Monarchy in 1931 was a disaster for Spain, because it opened a too conflicting constituent process that the country did not know to surpass without civil war. The return to a more democratic parliamentary Monarchy in 1931 would have probably channeled better the way towards the democracy, with some guarantee of greater moderation.

Much to the last king was criticized to have manipulated the political system, but the manipulations and interferences of the first president of the Republic, Alcala Zamora, were probably greater than those of Alfonso XIII.

After 1931, the possibilities of the Monarchy were little more than null during many years. It is a paradox or an irony of the History that some monarchic military played an important role in the appointment of Franc like unique head of the military movement of 1936, thinking that outside most trustworthy to recover the Monarchy. Possibly it would be thus, but it would take many years, decades, more than what they believed.

Peculiarly, it was the decision of Franc the one that probably made the introduction possible of a new democratic Monarchy, although none the this outside never goal wished by the own Franc. But then they were left few monarchists in Spain, so only the decision of a dictator could imponer a restoration originally wished by few.

Similarly, only the experience of a long and totally dominant dictatorship would leave arranged to the lefts to accept a regime that originally they despised, because it would allow them to get out of the the jam.

That the original decision of Franc to bring to young prince Juan Carlos to Spain, to educate to him within the country and of the effective institutions, and soon to proclaim to him like successor, was guessed right with benevolent consequences for Spain, is a conclusion that already has been accepted by the great majority of the studies and commentators.

Don Juan never had many possibilities of being rey and, if it had been proclaimed like so, it is than doubtful more that it had lasted and it been able to consolidate a democracy.

It was probably indispensable that Juan Carlos was educated like Franco supporter within the institutions of the regime. Thus it could begin to act like king from a position of total legitimacy in the established institutions, coming, as it were said, "from the law to the law", with all the normal guarantees.

Juan Carlos it would be recognized to him soon like "the motor of the change" and, without its decisive initiative, the beginning of the democratization had not been possible. But the democratization also depended on a new political class ready to agree and to come from a democratic way, and also from a new Spanish civil society that would welcome the constitutional moderation and norms.

These indispensable factors were not a creation of Juan Carlos, but who - paradoxicalally of a totally indirect way they were products of the situation created by Franc (Which does not mean that the caudillo had the minimum intention to introduce the political democracy).

During the six years that passed between their official recognition like heir and his proclamation like king, Juan Carlos was the target of many jokes that already have forgotten. All had to do with two subjects: his presumed stupidity or personal incapacity, and its few possibilities of staying like king ("Juan Carlos, the brief one ", etc.). But already he had given enough instructionses of which he was not nothing stupid and of which he knew to play his cards; this last one was something that did with great skill.

The positive qualities but of Juan Carlos are their great political instinct and its gift of people. Intellectual or great reader is something that never has been nor tried to be, but always has shown to a great instinct by the realities and the political alternatives. And he has had luck, that is something that can neither be made nor be bought.

A so cloudy subject with its possible relation with 23-F was from great benefit for him by its decisive performance during the brief hours of the aborted blow. And it has had some good advisers, from the Sixties to the initiatives shining of Sabino Fernandez Field the night of 23-F.

Also there have been two facets very different and contradictory in the personality of the king. Like Chief of State, he has been always astute and responsible, sometimes more than the presidents of Gobierno. In their personal life have been much more impulsive and until irresponsible, almost another person. With the years, this last facet of its personality has been exposed more and more, with a certain deterioration of his imagen.

Yet, it has been able to consolidate the Monarchy, at least like its Monarchy. But its great political sense says to him that it cannot guarantee the future of his heir, and who the future of any human institution is always an open page.

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S.M the King Don Juan Carlos, accompanied by the Prince of Asturias, will preside today at the ceremony of receipt of the biers with the bodies of 17 Spanish dead military men last Tuesday in Afghanistan, which they are moved in a plane Hercules de las Fuerzas Aéreas.
As confirmed to EFE sources of the House of the King, don Juan Carlos, as chief of the State and chief of the Armed Forces, they will receive to the plane that moves to the corpses, in that also there travels the minister of Defense, Jose Bono, and that has his arrival foreseen concerning 18.45 hours to Getafe's military airport, in Madrid.
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