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Old 12-07-2005, 06:28 PM
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What a difference, two princess, two headlines: The one who doesn't move without the husband and doesn't have an agenda, doesn't talk, dosen't give interviews, doesn't preside any charity or ONG's, as usual, making silly news about her clothes or shops that no one cares about, the press have nothing else on her because she doesn't do anything else besides being two steps behind the husband.
Oh but the other one, is not so glamourous because have had two girls and have gain in some pounds, but always smiling, happy, making headlines about her not so fancy travels, by herself, without the husband, going to where the poorest are, representing her new adoption country with dignity, being usefull, giving interviews in a really hard to learn language, talking about the microcredits and helping people. What a difference, I don't like monarchies but I'd rather have one Maxima than three Letizias.
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:38 PM
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Scherezada already we know that you do not like Letizia and I continue without understanding that you do here. The comparisons are odious. Every princess realizes the work that assigns her, and in the future Letizia also will have her own agenda.
I will say to you that in Spain she is the Queen Sofia who works with the microcredits.
Also I will say to you that in the Zarzuela requests are accumulated in order that Letizia comes to acts and presides at things, and that often she helps the people when they come to petition without her of so many advertising.

Certainly, I am thinking about being able to affirm that no princess has passed it so badly how Letizia being next to her citizens ... I would like that you saw the images of the attempts of Madrid, those of Tolodella's accident, those of the fire of Guadalajara or of the accident of Afghanistan. It also is to be a princess and of a very hard and worthy form.

One forgot me, I am sorry that you could not have enjoyed the wonderful images of the Princes in Candeal, a marvellous project of the musician Carlinhos Brown to teach music to the children of a favela of Brazil.
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Old 12-07-2005, 06:45 PM
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Scherezada, I hope you can do some research and get your facts straight before pouring venom the next time. Maxima didn't do much the first two years of her marriage, in fact she took many more vacations than Letizia. She started working hard after coming back from her first maternity leave, that was more than two years after her wedding date.
Also Maxima is receiving the salary directly from the government (about 890k Euro each year). Thus it's much easier for her to hire her own staffs and start her own programs than Letizia, whose every move has to be approved by Zarzuela. Can you imagine if Letizia were given 890k Euro each year ? She probably would have been expected to work 7 days a week.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:16 PM
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An article from "Diez minutos" about Letizia attending the anniversary of King's enthronment:
http://www.especialeshf.com/bodareal...noticia194.htm
I translated the part the talks about Letizia (nothing new, but...)

The princess reappear to pay a tribute to the King
Letizia parted from her daughter for the first time just for a little while in order to attend and important event. The wife of Don Felipe wanted to attend the reception for King Juan Carlos' thirtieth anniversary in the throne.

Doña Letizia didn't stay till the end

Again dressed by Felipe Varela, in shades of blue and wearing Cartier earrings, we were able to notice that princess Letizia is already back in shape and that maternity fits her very well.

However, the princess' presence in the reception doesn't mean that she's back to work, as stated by La Zarzuela, this was an exception.

The princess didn't stay until the end, after the greetings and a few minutes in the room where the reception took place doña Letizia came back to her home in La Zarzuela.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:16 PM
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Maxima didn't do much the first two years of her marriage, in fact she took Thus it's much easier for her to hire her own staffs and start her own programs than Letizia, whose every move has to be approved by Zarzuela. Can you imagine if Letizia were given 890k Euro each year ? She probably would have been expected to work 7 days a week.
Well, we all work, and sometimes two jobs, for our money. Yes, if she was going to make that much, then you would expect her to work overtime. However, that is not the point. As much as I disagree with Scherezada's comments, I think there is a valid point. Letizia is only in the news because of her clothing and other trivial things...not that it is bad or good, but it is the truth. I think that Maxima is doing a lot of good...Letizia may start doing that later. I know that Queen does many charitable work...
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:26 PM
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At the end, we saw Princess Letizia again :o.

On the other hand, I can not understand how people need to compare one princess with another one (and in the most occasions is with Letizia) in order to do most important the first one. Maybe, it will be because her prefered princess is not good enough by herself.:p
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:27 PM
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I honestly fail to see the point on measuring up the princesses. Each one has their qualities and they'll all show that to us in due course.

I just wanted to ask to you to keep this thread civil.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:31 PM
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Well, we all work, and sometimes two jobs, for our money. Yes, if she was going to make that much, then you would expect her to work overtime. However, that is not the point. As much as I disagree with Scherezada's comments, I think there is a valid point. Letizia is only in the news because of her clothing and other trivial things...not that it is bad or good, but it is the truth. I think that Maxima is doing a lot of good...Letizia may start doing that later. I know that Queen does many charitable work...
No, I didn't expect anyone to work overtime, but if Letizia were to receive this much money, people like Scherezada probably would and I bet she would be the first one to complain here if she didn't (IMO) .
I don't agree that Letizia was not doing anything. She had been sitting on the meetings with the Prince, She was doing similar things as her husband in the acts except for the speeches. It's known that both of them have been working together at the speeches, lots of which have been very well written in my opinion. There is a report that Zarzuela allows Letizia to hire a secretary now. I guess she will have her own agenda after the maternity leave.
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Old 12-07-2005, 07:39 PM
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My God! Whatever one thinks of Letizia, yoU've got to admit that she isn't somebody who married "into" a relaxed, easy-going court! If she were in the Netherlands or Scandinavia, things would be much easier for her. But here she's tried to conform to tradition, prove she'd good at her job. And I tell you something - she'll come into her own and astonish us all, I'm quite sure of that. But she needs time!
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:11 PM
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Oh well, I guess in this forum is happening the same with as with the spanyard press, Letizia is soooooooooooo perfect that have become a kind of alien. St Letizia of Asturias. C'mon, you people may like Letizia but you can't be so blind, Letizia's public appearances are solely as Felipe's wife. I don't know if call me stupid is according to the rules of this forum, well, I may be stupid but I have eyes on my face, ALL the princesses are doing their jobs, have their own agendas, AND have kids in between, their travel without their husbands in ocassions, patronage events, etc etc, in case you don't know the Spanish Monarchie is rich, their are millionaries, all of them, from JC to Cristina, ask any spanyard if they can live in those kind of houses or pisos, with nanas for their kids, luxurious vacations, etc, father JC knows how to distribute the money. Even the greek Queen and King so called because neither of them are Queen or King anymore, the soveraigne people of Greek doesn't recognize monarchies anymore, but the yellow press needs to sale copies and keep calling Queen and Kings to people that are exilees, even they are rich. My point is that if Letizia doesn't have a real job, with an agenda etc is not because of the lack of money, they who have everything they may possible want, with the money they spend only in annual flowers for the Palace you can pay a staff, give me a break!.
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Old 12-07-2005, 09:41 PM
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Letizia is not perfect. But your plan is to criticize it to her, and that seems to me very bad of your part. If you do not like, you do not come to the forum to criticize. For you to criticize if this good and that we thought about that Letizia is a good princess this badly?
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Old 12-07-2005, 11:13 PM
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Letizia is not perfect. But your plan is to criticize it to her, and that seems to me very bad of your part. If you do not like, you do not come to the forum to criticize. For you to criticize if this good and that we thought about that Letizia is a good princess this badly?
Oh really? Is this forum for Letizia's fan only? Oh sorry, I didn't see the warning at the entrance.
And why can't I come to the forum? because you said so?. I live in a democracy and I can say whatever I want, since I'm not breaking any rules you better deal with it.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:27 AM
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Ok, sheresada, you don't like Doña Letizia, so what ! Be courageous and said why you don't like Doña L. for objectives reasons, because your explanations are so obscures they are totaly irrelevant, except if it's ridiculous envy. In Spain they said : "sobre gustos, no hay nada escrito.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:43 AM
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I don't like her too...but I like other princess like Maxima or Mary. The thing is Letizia is doing NOTHING for Spanish people, she only sits with Felipe and says anything...was she not the most important newspaper of the last 30 years?
When she was presented as the fiance of Felipe I have liked her, so spontaneous...so natural...I thought she was going to make something different...but now....agh, I really don't like her.
I am sorry if my opinion is not yours...but it's an opinion...and everybody has one.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:55 AM
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Not everyone has to agree with everyone else's opinion. As long as they remain respectful we should hear both sides. We should not get so offended about some comments made. This is a forum to express our ideas not to idolize or praise all CPs. Let's be real, let's be adults and let's have fun with gossip and photos.
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:57 AM
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Ok,Nayralorenzo, it's your right; but explain a little what Mary is doing more for danish people than attend to Fashion exibitions ?
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Old 12-08-2005, 10:57 AM
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You are very confused , to do a useful work does not have anything to see in spite of doing acts in solitary. You can do acts in solitarily and that these are ridiculous, and that only give the orders you to cut tapes. And you can do acts in couple and that these are more useful. Letizia comes to political, economic and cultural acts with the Prince much more important than to that there come other alone or accompanied princesses.

She has been in numerous meetings with businessmen, politicians, writers, journalists ... she has come to all kinds of acts and known to many Chiefs of State.
She has been next to the citizens when she had to be, before any tragedy she has been there.
Though clear it seems that it is less useful that to see defiles fashionable, to baptize roses, or to come to exhibitions...
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Old 12-08-2005, 11:02 AM
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I think there's more of Letizia to come... so, yes, she hasn't had any official engagements on her own until now, but so what?!
she has travelled and perform official duties on so many important issues, in economics, cultural, and so on.
i would prefer her activities so far, compared to let say Mary's.
Mette-Marit, Mathilde, Maxima only perform official overseas visit & involved with issues like microcredit or humanitarian only a few years after their marriage.
so, please don't start bickering on Letizia! it's only her 2nd year after marriage, and so far, i think she has done trumendous job. hopefully, in few months she'll return to her official duties, and perform some on her own.
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I think there's more of Letizia to come... so, yes, she hasn't had any official engagements on her own until now, but so what?!
she has travelled and perform official duties on so many important issues, in economics, cultural, and so on.
i would prefer her activities so far, compared to let say Mary's.
Mette-Marit, Mathilde, Maxima only perform official overseas visit & involved with issues like microcredit or humanitarian only a few years after their marriage.
so, please don't start bickering on Letizia! it's only her 2nd year after marriage, and so far, i think she has done trumendous job. hopefully, in few months she'll return to her official duties, and perform some on her own.
completely agree!!!!!! she had a very busy schedule since day 1 of her marriage!!! we can see her almost every day on this forum...from economic forums....handing out prizes.....trips all around Spain and overseas!! more than any other crown-princess travel in a year! please do not compare her with mathidle, maxima, mette-marit and espeically Mary!!! they are in a different country with different culture!
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Old 12-08-2005, 01:00 PM
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It may not be Letizia's choice to be so silent, or to attend functions with Felipe only and not alone. The palace may be controlling her actions and image very carefully. There's no way for us to know, really, is there?
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