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Old 08-04-2004, 10:40 AM
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Pregnancy (and infertility) speculations

Do you all recall that a few days ago the obligatory rumour began about Letizia's possible preganancy? Then "sources" at the Royal House said it was just a rumour? But the newspaper ABC reports that the Royal House is currently shopping around for the best maternity ward in Madrid's public hospitals (I guess they plan to skip the private hospital the Infanta's used when they gave birth). They claim it's just in preparation for the eventuality of her becoming pregnant, but it does add fuel to the fire, so to speak, no?
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INFERTILITY?

there are rumours in spain about letizia having problems to concieve a child. some reporters have said that she may currently be helped by the IVI (instituto valenciano de infertilidad), that's why they have given the prize Jaime I to one of its doctors.
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Old 12-16-2004, 12:41 PM
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INFERTILITY?

there are rumours in spain about letizia having problems to concieve a child. some reporters have said that she may currently be helped by the IVI (instituto valenciano de infertilidad), that's why they have given the prize Jaime I to one of its doctors.
I think it's too soon for her to be thought to be having these problems---but if she is, it might be because she's so slender. That can affect a woman's cycles and fertility...
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INFERTILITY?

there are rumours in spain about letizia having problems to concieve a child. some reporters have said that she may currently be helped by the IVI (instituto valenciano de infertilidad), that's why they have given the prize Jaime I to one of its doctors.
They are rumours and that's all they are.

Letizia has been married only 7 months and travelling and working non-stop; she has barely had a minute to breathe let alone running around to various fertility doctors.

Maybe Felipe and Letizia are waiting to have children; to allow Letizia to settle into her new role a bit before becoming a parent and taking on another role.

It's not fair to have this kind of discussion when no one has seen Letizia's medical records or any doctors have come out and said that they are personally treating Letizia for fertility problems. Fertility problems are a very sensitive matter and engaging in gossip about it doesn't help anyone or bring forth a future Prince or Princess.
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They are rumours and that's all they are.

Letizia has been married only 7 months and travelling and working non-stop; she has barely had a minute to breathe let alone running around to various fertility doctors.

Maybe Felipe and Letizia are waiting to have children; to allow Letizia to settle into her new role a bit before becoming a parent and taking on another role.

It's not fair to have this kind of discussion when no one has seen Letizia's medical records or any doctors have come out and said that they are personally treating Letizia for fertility problems. Fertility problems are a very sensitive matter and engaging in gossip about it doesn't help anyone or bring forth a future Prince or Princess.
it is likely the spanish would rather see her pregnant than settled in her new role,
as she is in her thirties and rather too slim, wich one way or another does not help you conceive
(stress does is not helpful to conceiving either)

the pressure must be enormous
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it is likely the spanish would rather see her pregnant than settled in her new role,
as she is in her thirties and rather too slim, wich one way or another does not help you conceive
(stress does is not helpful to conceiving either)

the pressure must be enormous
I think the pressure is on now more than ever since the Infanta Cristina just announced her fourth pregnancy. Let's give them a chance, we may yet hear some good news in the new year. And if anything, I. Elena has children and she is eligible to succeed the throne should P. Felipe not have children of his own.
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The IVI deny that Doña Letizia is being put under a treatment as insinuates Peñafiel

The IVI deny that Doña Letizia is being put under a treatment as insinuates Jaime Peñafiel

The journalist Jaime Peñafiel insinuated yesterday in a program in Antenna 3 and another one in Cope that Princess de Asturias could have initiated a treatment in the Valencian Institute of Infertility when having "possible" problems to remain pregnant. The center denied yesterday that it is treating Doña Letizia.

The visit from Princes de Asturias to Valencia to visit the facilities of the PROVINCES Multimedia and to give the prizes Jaume I has untied some rumors between the journalists specialized in society subjects.

Jaime Peñafiel, professional who habitually approaches subjects related to the Real House, insinuated yesterday in diverse mass media that Doña Letizia could have initiated a treatment to remain pregnant in the Valencian Institute of Infertility (IVI).

The journalist explained, as much in Every day of Antenna 3 as in Afternoon with Cristina of the cadena cope net, that the Princess had agreed Tuesday with Antonio Pellicer the past, director of the Equipment IVI, to which she gave a prize to him in the building of the de La Lonja investigations in the scope of the diseases of the human infertility.

Peñafiel indicated that the possibility that Princes de Asturias had put in contact with the University professor of Gynecology and Obstetrics of the University of Valencia so that advised to them on a possible treatment.

I believe that before 2005 the Real House will announce the pregnancy of Doña Letizia and this one could come from Valencia", affirmed yesterday to Jaime Peñafiel before the overwhelmed glance of Maria Teresa campos in Antenna 3.

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Please, be rational: they're married just for 7 months!... I mean, Queen Sofia gave birth to Elena one year and a half after marrying Juan Carlos; Elena gave birth to Froilán more than three years after the wedding and so did Cristina almost two years after marrying Iñaki... I don't really think infertility speculations are fair at all...
(By the way, it's funny how these infertility problems must come all from Letizia... quite sexist speculations, I would say)
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Well, maybe her skinny body is giving problems....
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The journalist indicated to the PROVINCES that a series of chances made him think that this treatment "could" have initiated. Peñafiel quisó not to do niguna firm asseveration. "I do not assure anything, I only indicate that a solution of the problem, if is that the Princess has some problem, could find it in Valencia", it commented.

I do not have data to be able to affirm with rotundidad nothing, but I have my sources that make me raise this hypothesis. The Princes could resort to this treatment since they make hundreds of pairs ", added Peñafiel.

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The director of the IVI in Valencia,Amparo Ruiz, denied yesterday to the PROVINCES that Doña Letizia has gone to her center to be put under a fertility treatment.

"we do not understand how it has been possible to difunduir a información falsa . It is uncertain( not true). The only contact which we have maintained with the Real House was in the delivery of the prizes Jaume I, since Princes de Asturias congratulated professor Antonio Pellicer ", she explained.

The doctor Ruiz denied that the IVI count on a embrióloga de silla, a source that indicated to the journalist Jaime Peñafiel in programs of yesterday both, but which at no moment it related to the IVI.

"our center Would be an honor to have to deal with the princess Asturias, but neither she has received treatment nor we have predicted in the next months to put her under fertility techniques", added the director of the IVI.
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Please, be rational: they're married just for 7 months!... I mean, Queen Sofia gave birth to Elena one year and a half after marrying Juan Carlos; Elena gave birth to Froilán more than three years after the wedding and so did Cristina almost two years after marrying Iñaki... I don't really think infertility speculations are fair at all...
(By the way, it's funny how these infertility problems must come all from Letizia... quite sexist speculations, I would say)
did not think about the 7 months, silly, it is unrealistic to expect etc.
imagine how happy the spanish will be .....
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The place where the "reporter" (he's just a gossip monger) said she's getting treatment came out immediately and publically said they are not treating her and wondered "how these false stories spread." The same reporter also said that the Royal House will annouce she is expecting before 2005--in other words, in two weeks. So not even he has his story strait!

In any case, I read they will be in Belgrade, Serbia on Monday. But I only saw it in one source. If I see more confirmation I'll let you all know. Tomorrow they are in Granada.
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Yes, perhaps her skinny body will have problems...Or maybe it´s his giant-like body that is having the problems. Such sexism in our assumptions it would seem. Anyway, I figured they would wait because of the seemingly business-like attitude of the both of them. And they have not proved us wrong. They have worked quite hard and with many duties and visits. Maybe they are just waiting.

" (By the way, it's funny how these infertility problems must come all from Letizia... quite sexist speculations, I would say)"

Machismo. it would seem is at play.
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INFERTILITY?

there are rumours in spain about letizia having problems to concieve a child. some reporters have said that she may currently be helped by the IVI (instituto valenciano de infertilidad), that's why they have given the prize Jaime I to one of its doctors.
To declare a infertility problem, a woman has to go through several years of trying and not succeeding, and I don't think this is the case of this couple's problem. They're only married for a couple of month. A doctor would not say that's infertility.
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I just think they are not ready for children at the moment.They are a very busy couple, hardly never at home, always running around spain doing things, so to me i dont see where they have time to think of children now.By the way's people wait a year or 2 till they have there first child.
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To declare a infertility problem, a woman has to go through several years of trying and not succeeding, and I don't think this is the case of this couple's problem. They're only married for a couple of month. A doctor would not say that's infertility.
So true.
The public would only be happy if they announced they were pregnant exactly three months after their wedding day. But not a day before or a day after.
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Pregnancy speculations

Already there is date for the heir

Sources of the Real House have counted to PRNoticias that Princes de Asturias already have programmed the date of birth of the inheriting future to the throne. The information arrivals until our writing say us that after the summer Princess Letizia Ortiz will remain pregnant and if everything comes out well, we would have to the new Borbón for May of 2006. This the speculations are ended on the descendants of the young Real Pair and would finish the rumors interested and the onfounded on the presumed anorexy that would be undergoing Doña Letizia.

According to it has been able to know PRNoticias, in Zarzuela are extremely calm because nobody has considered the idea to worry the pregnancy of Princess de Asturias. In fact, the decision of the pregnancy after the vacations of summer of this year, has exclusively corresponded to the desire of the pair to have their first baby. All it to the margin of any controversy and speculations by the arrival of the heir.

Our contacts in Zarzuela have denied to us in addition that Princess Letizia Ortiz are suffering a anoréxico picture. In fact, it would be unthinkable that she programs the arrival of a baby if she underwent some of the complications of this disease.

But there is more, the friends of the Real Pair, to which we have had access comment us that the Princes are taking the life like a pair from their age, want to enjoy a period to share their relation and later they will assume the necessary task of giving to the Spaniards a heir. Our King, is in form, point the same sources and his son is a man of his time.

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A source PRnoticias said that Letizia will have the 1st baby in may 2006.

Aseguran que Letizia quedará embarazada después del verano

El boletín especializado en temas de comunicación y relaciones publicas, PRNoticias, publicaba este jueves que fuentes de la Casa Real daban por seguro que la princesa Letizia quedaría embarazada despues del verano y que el hijo de la pareja nacería el próximo mes de mayo del 2006.

La publicación explica que la fecha ha sido elegida por la pareja y que no han existido presiones de la Casa Real para avanzar el embarazo de Letizia.

Según PRNoticias el retraso hasta después del verano se debe a las ganas de la pareja de disfrutar de los primeros meses del matrimonio sin el compromiso y los impedimentos que puede significar el estado de embarazo.

Fin de los Rumores

En el articulo, PRNoticias desmiente que la princesa presente un cuadro anoréxico ya que si así fuera sería imposible que estuvieran programando el embarazo para esas fechas.

Explican además, que cuando se produzca el anuncio se pondrán fin a las especulaciones sobre la salud de Letizia.

8 kilos más delgada

La carta de la Casa Real al diario "El Mundo" desmintiendo la posibilidad de que Letizia sufriera anorexia recondujo, durante todo el día el tono en el que eran comentada esa información.

Los titulares eran o han sido suavizados y en algunos programas se habla de que la delgadez de la princesa se debe a su grado de autoexigencia, autosacrificio o autodedicación.

Sin embargo, no hay quien olvide decir que la princesa se ha adelgazado unos ocho kilos desde que se conoció el noviazgo (seis desde la boda) y que muestra signos de extrema delgadez como puede observarse en la foto tomada durante en una cena de gala en el Palacio Real el pasado 31 de enero.

En esta imágen, que ha servido como base para que la prensa lanzase las especulaciones sobre la enfermedad de la princesa, se ve cómo el omóplato de la princesa se escapa de la huesuda espalda.

"Me abstendré de afirmar que la princesa es anoréxica, pero tiene hechuras anoréxicas, y eso es objetivo", escribió Carmen Rigalt, columnista de "El Mundo". Rigalt se quejó en el diario de que, sea por enfermedad o no, la flacura de Letizia pasó los límites. "La calle comenta que la delgadez de la princesa merece una llamada de atención (...) Si sufre, malo, pero si no sufre y está así por gusto, peor. Una princesa no tiene derecho a constituir un mal ejemplo", escribió.

"El Mundo" intentó explicar tanta delgadez contando que la posición protocolar que se le enseña a las princesas -que consiste en apoyar el peso del cuerpo en los glúteos y pararse sobre unos tacos de 10 centímetros- hace que la espalda se vea enjuta.

A esto se sumó el testimonio de un par de diseñadores eternos de Letizia Ortiz, quienes aseguraron que sigue usando la talla 38 de antes del matrimonio. Pero también están las confesiones anónimas de otras tiendas exclusivas frecuentadas por la ex periodista, que aseguran que la esposa de Felipe de Borbón usa talla 36 e incluso 34.

Otras princesas la padecieron

La posible enfermedad de Letizia, repetimos desmentida por la Casa Real, ha hecho estragos en otras casas reales y personajes muy celebres. Diana de Gales fue el caso más conocido, aunque también la padecieron la princesa Masako de Japón y Victoria de Suecia.

Precisamente en muchos corrillos se insiste en el afán de Letizia en emular a Diana y convertirse en una nueva musa del mundo fashion y del espectáculo, tal como lo fue la popular "Lady Di"


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This topic is becoming boring. As Letizia keeps on working non-stop, recycling her clothes in a frequency that many of us here don't, people keep on trying to find flaws about her.

Felipe and Letizia had a very short courtship due to the fact that they didn't want their newly-started relationship in the pages of every single tabloid. They are taking their time so that they get to know each other better, they get to adjust to one another and so she can adjust to her life as a member of the Royal Family and in a fishbowl.

This woman has been working hard for her country (okay, she doesn't have a 9 to 5 job like most of us do). She's trying to show that she's a genuine Spaniard and that she loves her country as much as she loves her husband.

Letizia doesn't show any symptoms (beside the loss of weight) that she suffers from any eating disorder. Anorexia and Bulimia are two diseases that debilitates the body to a certain point that sometimes it makes impossible for the person to get up of bed. She couldn't be performing the amount of duties she does since her engagement if she were sick. Take a look at the thread about her sisters and you'll see that they are all slender (maybe Erika is a little less due to the fact she's already a mom).

And finally, the thing about Letizia wanting to be Diana? Complete nonsense. If one of the Crown Princesses should be compared to Diana (not that I find it right to compare any of them with Diana), it would be another one that I won't name in here to avoid quarrells.

Spanish "journalists" should stop searching for trouble and start to value the great woman their prince chose to be his wife. She is intelligent, well-articulated, studious, hard-worker, kind and, just to add to the mix, she's drop-dead gorgeous.
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anna,

agree with everything but is it not possible that they might have had a longer courtship than we know and managed to keep it a secret, perhaps they met before the camera's saw them doing so.


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This topic is becoming boring. As Letizia keeps on working non-stop, recycling her clothes in a frequency that many of us here don't, people keep on trying to find flaws about her.

Felipe and Letizia had a very short courtship due to the fact that they didn't want their newly-started relationship in the pages of every single tabloid. They are taking their time so that they get to know each other better, they get to adjust to one another and so she can adjust to her life as a member of the Royal Family and in a fishbowl.

This woman has been working hard for her country (okay, she doesn't have a 9 to 5 job like most of us do). She's trying to show that she's a genuine Spaniard and that she loves her country as much as she loves her husband.

Letizia doesn't show any symptoms (beside the loss of weight) that she suffers from any eating disorder. Anorexia and Bulimia are two diseases that debilitates the body to a certain point that sometimes it makes impossible for the person to get up of bed. She couldn't be performing the amount of duties she does since her engagement if she were sick. Take a look at the thread about her sisters and you'll see that they are all slender (maybe Erika is a little less due to the fact she's already a mom).

And finally, the thing about Letizia wanting to be Diana? Complete nonsense. If one of the Crown Princesses should be compared to Diana (not that I find it right to compare any of them with Diana), it would be another one that I won't name in here to avoid quarrells.

Spanish "journalists" should stop searching for trouble and start to value the great woman their prince chose to be his wife. She is intelligent, well-articulated, studious, hard-worker, kind and, just to add to the mix, she's drop-dead gorgeous.
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