The Royal Forums Coat of Arms

Go Back   The Royal Forums > Reigning Houses > Royal Family of Spain > Current Events Archive

Join The Royal Forums Today
Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
 
  #461  
Old 04-19-2012, 04:08 PM
susan alicia's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: , Netherlands
Posts: 2,539
Quote:
Originally Posted by Alondra View Post
Slowly getting more information....

www.microsofttranslator.com/BV.aspx?ref=IE8Activity&a=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.abc.es%2F20120418%2Fespana%2Fabci-elefantes-dinero-201204180207.html

"Finally, the identity of the person who invited the King to the hunting has been known. This is the Saudi businessman of Syrian origin and residing in Spain Mohamed Eyad Kayali, Manager and confidant of Prince Salman bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, Minister of defence of Saudi Arabia and third in the line of succession to the Crown. The close relationship of friendship that Don Juan Carlos maintains with Prince Salman has been decisive in the award of the contract of the «bird of the desert' to a consortium of Spanish companies. The project, valued at more 6.736 billion euros, is the largest international contract ever achieved by Spanish companies."

JC has no doubt made a mistake, a big one. The days of royal hunting without impunity are gone, and unfortunately for him, he got caught. Worst of all, he did so in a week critical to Spain's financial standing and he's been damaged as a result.

PHP Code:
Having said thatthe WWF maybe should shut up and look back to its own past before getting all high and mightyA past including well known big game African hunting royals as its funding Presidents
As a Spaniard, one thing that I consider positive from this fiasco is the confirmation that the Prince of Asturias' family are finally being recognised as the hard working, committed royals struggling getting acknowledgement in the past. It's dreadful how la Casa Real (the Royal House) has treated Letizia ....by simply never defending her. I truly feel for both Felipe and Letizia and give them kudos for how they are handling these awful times.

On the issue of JC and mistresses, while it may be a "scandal" in the rest of the world, it's been ackowledged in Spain for many years. It's their private life. A life QS has always been quite happy about.
Do you really think he can remain their patron?

Am so suprised that he could want to kill an elephant, actually do it and have his picture taken with the dead animal. Not illegal just immoral, even if the animal needed putting down, it was not his job.

I actually admired and respected the Spanish royals but I do not like Juan Carlos anymore and that will not change.
__________________

__________________
  #462  
Old 04-19-2012, 04:13 PM
susan alicia's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: , Netherlands
Posts: 2,539
Quote:
Originally Posted by KittyAtlanta View Post
He has apologized, but I don't believe it is sincere. He has the blood lust and did not quit this type of hunting when the other royal houses stopped big game hunting. Spain's King Kills Tame, Drunk Bear on Russian Trip (Update2) - Bloomberg and King of Spain Shoots a Drunken Bear Dead - Kommersant Moscow

The other royal houses still hunt, but their bag is served at table.
definitely not sincere, he is only sorry because he got find out
__________________

__________________
  #463  
Old 04-19-2012, 04:37 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto (ON) & London (UK), Canada
Posts: 5,262
Quote:
Originally Posted by susan alicia View Post
definitely not sincere, he is only sorry because he got find out
What more do you want from the man?
Is he supposed to put on a hair shirt, crawl on his knees up the cathedral steps and flaggelate himself for the amusement of the population?
__________________
  #464  
Old 04-19-2012, 09:36 PM
Nobility
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Washington, D.C., United States
Posts: 326
Quote:
Originally Posted by NGalitzine View Post
What more do you want from the man?
Is he supposed to put on a hair shirt, crawl on his knees up the cathedral steps and flaggelate himself for the amusement of the population?
I agree. I'm frankly surprised he apologized at all. "Never complain, never explain" is not a horrible policy in situations like this.
__________________
  #465  
Old 04-20-2012, 01:51 AM
Alondra's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Madrid, Spain
Posts: 245
Quote:
Originally Posted by susan alicia View Post
definitely not sincere, he is only sorry because he got find out
And how would you know whether or not he is sincere? If you don't want to believe him that's fair enough, but at the end of the day is whether Spaniards believe him that is important.
__________________
  #466  
Old 04-20-2012, 03:06 AM
asturiana's Avatar
Royal Highness
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: BW, Germany
Posts: 1,866
El rey recibe el 'Premio Infiel honorífico a toda una vida' - Público.es
__________________
  #467  
Old 04-20-2012, 04:21 AM
Alondra's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Madrid, Spain
Posts: 245
very appropriate
__________________
  #468  
Old 04-20-2012, 11:28 AM
biboquinhas's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Portugal, Portugal
Posts: 2,983
I really don't understand why the King said "I'am sorry..."..he is sorry for what? For going on holidays during the crisis? For killing animals for fun...for spending money while others are going through difficulties? For hurting himself? I really don't understand what the King means with "I'am sorry".
__________________
YOUR DAILY CLICK HELPS ANIMALS SURVIVE provides food for an animal in a shelter or sanctuary. Feed an animal in need, click for free.http://www.theanimalrescuesite.com/
  #469  
Old 04-20-2012, 11:56 AM
Alondra's Avatar
Aristocracy
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Madrid, Spain
Posts: 245
Quote:
Originally Posted by biboquinhas View Post
I really don't understand why the King said "I'am sorry..."..he is sorry for what? For going on holidays during the crisis? For killing animals for fun...for spending money while others are going through difficulties? For hurting himself? I really don't understand what the King means with "I'am sorry".
Probably the lot. I think some people tend to overthink words too much - an apology is simply a recognition we've done something wrong. Saying "it won't happen again' means just that - mistakes have been learnt.

There are living Heads of State that engaged in wars costing lives to millions who have never apologised. On the contrary they still maintain they were right.

Apparently King Juan Carlos needs to kneel and flog himself for his attrocities.
__________________
  #470  
Old 04-20-2012, 12:08 PM
Courtier
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: many places, United States
Posts: 723
Quote:
Originally Posted by NGalitzine View Post
What more do you want from the man?
Is he supposed to put on a hair shirt, crawl on his knees up the cathedral steps and flaggelate himself for the amusement of the population?
What a delightful mental picture
__________________
Forgiveness is the fragrance the violet shed on the heel that crushed it - Mark Twain
  #471  
Old 04-20-2012, 12:45 PM
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Toronto (ON) & London (UK), Canada
Posts: 5,262
Quote:
Originally Posted by Winnie View Post
What a delightful mental picture
For some perhaps, but I would not expect Juan Carlos or anyone else to emulate Henry II.
__________________
  #472  
Old 04-20-2012, 12:57 PM
Al_bina's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: City, Kazakhstan
Posts: 5,219
Quote:
Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade View Post
EIIR, I said it in the other thread, these are old boys' network connections that origin from the unique situation of the monarchy being re-established and Spain being steered into democracy. Most of it wont continue under Felipe because he will be under a different scrutiny and doesnt see eye to eye with his fathers old buddies.

It may not be right but JC still gets away with most things (well, maybe not elephant hunting), especially if they serve the Spanish cause too (in this case, multi-billion contracts with saudi business). Installing democracy after the Franco regime will give him the life-long respect of his country and make him untouchable eg regarding abolishment or abdication, these discussions will only come up after his death. The fact that the Spaniards respect Juan Carlos doesnt make them necessarily monarchists.
I fully agree with you.
__________________
"To watch the sun sink behind a flower clad hill.
To wander on in a huge forest without thought of return. To stand upon the shore and gaze after a boat that disappears behind distant islands. To contemplate the flight of wild geese seen and lost among the clouds.
And, subtle shadows of bamboo on bamboo." Zeami Motokiyo
  #473  
Old 04-20-2012, 05:23 PM
lula's Avatar
Imperial Majesty
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: , Spain
Posts: 16,228
Queen Sofia and Queen Silvia had dinner at Zarzuela Palace

http://img.europapress.net/fotoweb/f...225041_800.jpg
__________________
  #474  
Old 04-20-2012, 05:41 PM
Baroness of Books's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bookstacks, United States
Posts: 5,602
They seem very close and I'm sure they've commiserated with each other over their errant husbands!
__________________
A book should be either a bandit or a rebel or a man in the crowd..... D.H. Lawrence
  #475  
Old 04-20-2012, 07:18 PM
MagMil's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Skopje, Macedonia
Posts: 2,408
Quote:
Originally Posted by lula View Post
Queen Sofia and Queen Silvia had dinner at Zarzuela Palace

http://img.europapress.net/fotoweb/f...225041_800.jpg

Always seems that they are very close and like a true friends they give support to each other Beautiful picture , here is two more

ANP Foto
ANP Foto
__________________
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. - Robert Frost
  #476  
Old 04-20-2012, 07:48 PM
Baroness of Books's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bookstacks, United States
Posts: 5,602
Very nice pictures, all of them. It's great that they can be supportive of each other.
__________________
A book should be either a bandit or a rebel or a man in the crowd..... D.H. Lawrence
  #477  
Old 04-20-2012, 07:56 PM
Grandduchess24's Avatar
Serene Highness
 
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Cambridge, United States
Posts: 1,319
Quote:
Originally Posted by lula
Queen Sofia and Queen Silvia had dinner at Zarzuela Palace

http://img.europapress.net/fotoweb/f...225041_800.jpg
They look to be the best of friends, it's nice to see these Queens together:)
__________________
" An ugly baby is a very nasty object, and the prettiest is frightful when undressed."
- Queen Victoria
  #478  
Old 04-20-2012, 08:17 PM
MagMil's Avatar
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Skopje, Macedonia
Posts: 2,408
Articles about dinner of two Queens

Doña Sofía ofrece una cena en la Zarzuela a la reina Silvia de Suecia - Público.es *** translation

La Reina Sofía cena en Zarzuela con la Reina de Suecia *** translation
__________________
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. - Robert Frost
  #479  
Old 04-20-2012, 10:38 PM
Heir Presumptive
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: San Francisco, United States
Posts: 2,013
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baroness of Books View Post
They seem very close and I'm sure they've commiserated with each other over their errant husbands!
If they are like most active and intelligent woman they have much more interesting topics to discuss.
__________________
  #480  
Old 04-20-2012, 11:33 PM
Baroness of Books's Avatar
Heir Apparent
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: Bookstacks, United States
Posts: 5,602
Quote:
Originally Posted by grevinnan View Post
If they are like most active and intelligent woman they have much more interesting topics to discuss.
I'm sure they do, but even most active and intelligent women find personal topics interesting to discuss and seek advice about as well.
__________________

__________________
A book should be either a bandit or a rebel or a man in the crowd..... D.H. Lawrence
Closed Thread


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Additional Links
Popular Tags
abdication birth birthday bourbon-parma camilla charlene chris o'neill crown prince frederik crown prince haakon crown princess letizia crown princess mary crown princess mette-marit crown princess victoria danish royals engagement fashion genealogy grand duchess maria teresa grand duke henri habsburg hereditary grand duchess stéphanie hereditary grand duke guillaume hohenzollern infanta elena jordans king king abdullah king abdullah ii king albert ii king carl xvi gustav king juan carlos king philippe king willem-alexander norway picture thread pom pregnancy prince albert prince albert ii prince constantijn prince felipe prince felix prince frederik prince henrik prince joachim princess princess alexia (2005 -) princess anita princess ariane princess beatrix princess catharina-amalia princess charlene princess haya princess laurentien princess letizia princess mabel princess madeleine princess marie princess mary princess maxima queen mathilde queen maxima queen rania queen silvia queen sofia royal russia state visit wedding willem-alexander william


Our Communities

Our communities encompass many different hobbies and interests, but each one is built on friendly, intelligent membership.

» More about our Communities

Automotive Communities

Our Automotive communities encompass many different makes and models. From U.S. domestics to European Saloons.

» More about our Automotive Communities

RV & Travel Trailer Communities

Our RV & Travel Trailer sites encompasses virtually all types of Recreational Vehicles, from brand-specific to general RV communities.

» More about our RV Communities

Marine Communities

Our Marine websites focus on Cruising and Sailing Vessels, including forums and the largest cruising Wiki project on the web today.

» More about our Marine Communities


Copyright 2002-2012 Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:46 AM.

Social Knowledge Networks

eXTReMe Tracker
Powered by vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014
Jelsoft Enterprises

Royal News Delivered to your Email!

You can get the latest Royal News right in your inbox.

unsusbcribe at anytime with one click

Close [X]