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Old 03-23-2007, 06:13 PM
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The difference in America daycare or child care is for a child who's parents are working and can't be at home with it. But nursery school or pre-school is for a child to go for a few hours a day(usually morning b/c studies have shown that children learn better in the morning). The child is then picked up by the parent/parents afterwards. Many stay at home moms put their kids in nursery school so the kid can be around other kids but also so that mommy can have some relaxing time. But it's very school and social oriented. There might be some of the same things done at daycare but daycare is usually all day long until the parents get off work.

Oh and about the study you read about taking a child out of the house when a new baby is due. That's really interesting I can see how it would be a little weird for the child. When I heard today that Christian was going to nursery school I thought it was odd just b/c of the time of year, in America we're heading into the end of the school year not the beginning. So the timing just seems off but maybe the school year runs differently in Denmark. We have school from September thru to June. However, we do have some year around schooling in some parts but still typically a child would start nursery school at the beginning of the school year(September) not just whenever.
In Scandinavia mothers and fathers have about one year payed maternety/paterenty leave with the right to keep the job when it is over which is much more than in other European countries and USA. So they usually take care of their children them selves for the first year, then most go back to work full time, and they have to leave the children in day care/nursery school 8 hours a day, where they are taken care of, and part of the staff has education as preschool teachers. It has nothing to with school really which they start the year they turn 6, they dont learn to read and write, it is spending time with other children, doing arts and crafts (so every parents gets a toiletroll santa and a pasta angel for christmas ) singing, doing some gymastics, doing smal trips in the nearby, spening lots of time outside and such. Often the day care is divided after age so the smallest kids are together in one department and the older children are together in another departmen and do different things

Ofcourse stay at home mum and dads can take their kids to day care/nursery as well to have their kids spend time with other children, you can have them there full time which is 8 hours or part time, so I would say most children in scandinavia who has working parents starts at age one, so Christian is actually later than what is "normal".

HAakon and MEtte-MArit took Ingrid to day care just before she was 2, one month after the birth of Sverre Magnus, I know Märtha Louise had Maud start at 16 or 18 months
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Old 03-23-2007, 06:16 PM
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Thanks so much Larzen for weighing in on this topic, very interesting. I really like learning about how other countries do things.
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Old 03-23-2007, 06:25 PM
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Aurora, I have remained thinking on what you commented of if it was a study, really it was a personal commentary that I had read, but searching a bit for Internet, I have found several references to the same topic. One speaks of that it is preferable that before the birth of a brother or sister, there are no big changes in the life of a child, to part) of the topic of the child-care, also they refer, for example, to a change of housing or of bedroom, or a babysitter's change.

On the other hand, in Spain, if the parents work, and they cannot have any relative or a babysitter who takes care of children, the children with 3 months already are in the habit of being in some place. If they have persons who take care of them, up to 3 years they do not begin the Infantile Education. Before she can start going to the child-care, but in September of next year 2008, Leonor already will begin the school.
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:38 AM
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In the meantime, I'll be waiting patiently for semana santa so we can, hopefully, see our little Infanta again.
Oh I would love to see them all, but I fear Leti won't manage to go to Palma... She will be veeeery pregnant by this time. It wouldn't be a problem to give birth in Mallorca, if little Infantita hurries, the Royal House surely has the hospital prepared in case the King or somebody was ill, but it's probably that the doctors just won't let her fly... But maybe it's better to be optimistic
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Old 03-25-2007, 08:59 AM
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How long is the trip to Mallorca?

I guess that the problem might not even be the trip itself (the whole family spends Easter together up there, right? So I doubt she'd be left behind), but the standing during the photo op. Everyone surely remembers how bad she seemed during the National parade, mere two weeks before Leonor was born (this was her last official act before the birth).

So, if it'll be almost the same timing (2 weeks or so before the birth) than Easter mass, that happens on the 8th.
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Old 03-25-2007, 09:12 AM
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Thanks a lot, Ana_R for the palning!!!! We can consider that the Princess could to be for Eastern Mass and that the Princely baby would be here two weeks after....
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Old 03-25-2007, 05:53 PM
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I hope they'll make it to Mallorca, but if they don't we won't have to wait long until the birth. By the way, I love your avatar Anna_R.
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Of course it completely depends on each woman and each woman's pregnancy. But I have known of women that are just as pregnant as Letizia that have gone on flights and flights that are even longer than a flight to Mallorca. And those flights were first class. Whereas I would expect that the royal family has a charter flight or royal plane, possibly. We'll have to wait and see!

p.s. does the family have another private vacation residence that might be easier access for F and L for the holiday or is Mallorca the only vacation spot for them? Just wondering!
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How long is the trip to Mallorca?

I guess that the problem might not even be the trip itself (the whole family spends Easter together up there, right? So I doubt she'd be left behind), but the standing during the photo op. Everyone surely remembers how bad she seemed during the National parade, mere two weeks before Leonor was born (this was her last official act before the birth).

So, if it'll be almost the same timing (2 weeks or so before the birth) than Easter mass, that happens on the 8th.
The duration of the flight between Madrid and Mallorca is quite short, about 1 hour and 15 minutes each way. The problem is that the plane taking off and landing is not good for a 8-month pregnant woman. Also most commercial flights don't take pregnant women who are about to give birth. This probably isn't an issue for a royal though. If it's, Letizia can always tag along with the Kings in the official plane.
There is also ferry to Mallorca. I remember Cristina and her family took ferry to Mallorca because of the workers' strike last summer. But I don't know how long the ferry takes.
I very much doubt Letizia will be in Mallorca. But Felipe can always take Leonor for a day or two to attend the Sunday mass.
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Old 03-26-2007, 04:40 AM
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One year old is the perfect time for them to go to nursey school! They have to learn how to play with other children, how to share toys, to wait for their meals, to behave in society!They must know that the world is not only around them!!!!!!!!She must go to nursery school soon otherwise she will become a veru spoil baby
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One year old is the perfect time for them to go to nursey school! They have to learn how to play with other children, how to share toys, to wait for their meals, to behave in society!They must know that the world is not only around them!!!!!!!!She must go to nursery school soon otherwise she will become a veru spoil baby
I don't know. I don't think she would become spoiled, soon she has a new baby sister, she will learn anyway that she has to share her toys, sometimes the new baby needs more attention, etc.
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Old 03-26-2007, 02:47 PM
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One year old is the perfect time for them to go to nursey school! They have to learn how to play with other children, how to share toys, to wait for their meals, to behave in society!They must know that the world is not only around them!!!!!!!!She must go to nursery school soon otherwise she will become a veru spoil baby

When i was a baby i didn´t go to a nursey school and i am an absolutely normal, estroverted and sociable girl so ....please, don´t be so dramatic,you are very exaggerated.
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So will Leonor just never go to nursery school? IThat would be a little abnormal, wouldn't it? Now that not only the dutch and norwegian royal kids does it, but also Christian, won't it soon be time for Leonor?
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I think there are benefits to nursery school but at the same time. I don't think we can go so far as to say Leonor will become a spoiled child and not know how to behave if she doesn't go. That's a little extreme. She's going to have someone else to share with and be around plus she has lots of cousins to be around also. Felipe and Letizia are her parents no one else. And they can make the decisions as far as what is best for their daughter.

What one family does with their kids might not be right for another family's kids. For example, some parents choose private schools for their kids, some choose public schools, others choose boarding schools, and some others even choose home schooling.

Maybe F and L don't feel nursery school is necessary if I was a parent I'm not so sure I would feel nursery school was necessary for my kids. It just depends on the family dynamics and who the child is around. Or at least that's my opinion. I'm not willing at this stage before I even have kids to say that I'm definitely sending them to nursery school I want to wait and see what their personalities are like and see also how many kids are around them without me sending them to nursery school. Hey but that's just me! Everyone has the right to their own opinion.

p.s. I personally think it's completely unfair to compare what the other children of other crown princely couples are doing. But I think that opinion probably comes out in my overall post.
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So will Leonor just never go to nursery school? IThat would be a little abnormal, wouldn't it? Now that not only the dutch and norwegian royal kids does it, but also Christian, won't it soon be time for Leonor?
I think that would be abnormal that Christian go to nursery school at 17 months old, when their parents can care him in house.

IMO, the better age to go a nursery school is 2-3 years old just as Ingrid of Norway, I did it with my children. Leonor has a lot of cousins and children of friends of their parents that play with her. Probably she will begin at nursery school after the summer, a good election IMO.
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Elisabeth of Belgium was two when she go to the kindergarden, I think.
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One year old is the perfect time for them to go to nursey school! They have to learn how to play with other children, how to share toys, to wait for their meals, to behave in society!They must know that the world is not only around them!!!!!!!!She must go to nursery school soon otherwise she will become a veru spoil baby
That's such a strange opinion...
I don't share your it at all. In Germany little kids start going to the kindergarden when they are 3 or 4. I'm quite surprised Christian is going to visit the nursery school so early.

It seems you always compare the little kids (Christian and Leonor) all the time. They both live in different countries with diffrent point of views. If Letizia and Felipe decided to send Leonor to nursery school later : Well, I just can say that I accept this. All parents want just the best for their child and I'm 100 % sure Felipe and Letizia don't want their daughter to become a "spoil baby".

I really get tired of this never-ending Leonor vs. Christian comparisons. Is there really only one right one to educate children? Not at all. So, let Letizia and Felipe educate Leonor in their personal way and let Mary and Fred educate Christian in their way.
That's what I wanted to say.
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That's such a strange opinion...
I don't share your it at all. In Germany little kids start going to the kindergarden when they are 3 or 4. I'm quite surprised Christian is going to visit the nursery school so early.

It seems you always compare the little kids (Christian and Leonor) all the time. They both live in different countries with diffrent point of views. If Letizia and Felipe decided to send Leonor to nursery school later : Well, I just can say that I accept this. All parents want just the best for their child and I'm 100 % sure Felipe and Letizia don't want their daughter to become a "spoil baby".

I really get tired of this never-ending Leonor vs. Christian comparisons. Is there really only one right one to educate children? Not at all. So, let Letizia and Felipe educate Leonor in their personal way and let Mary and Fred educate Christian in their way.
That's what I wanted to say.
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I couldn't agree more.
It's enough, and please don't tell that here is a free opinion forums, because comparations, are really hateful, we are sure Leonor some day will go to a nursery school, so please wait, this is the Leonor forum, not what happen if Christian does something and Leonor Doesn't, and bla bla bla.

ENOUGH.
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