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Old 05-04-2010, 01:25 PM
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I certainly hope the rumors are not true, but I agree with the poster who said where there is smoke there is fire.

It seemed strange to me that they moved to Washington, D.C. (I believe that Inaki's job had nothing to do with it.)
I assumed it was because Cristina and Letizia had their differences. However, perhaps it was to defuse some problem in Barcelona
or to give Cristina and Inaki some privacy to strengthen their marriage. (I believe that is why Elena and Jaimie moved to NY... not for physical therapy.)
I thought it was odd that Cristina went to the Belgian royal birthday party without Inaki... perhaps this is why there were no photos?

I remember that Inaki had a girlfriend when he met Cristina and she was gone soon after... a red flag, perhaps.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:33 PM
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They said that it was because of Iñaki's business as he got a better position in Telefonica. But I always thought that they moved because in Barcelona the republican movement started to be very important. And we can't forget the corruption case which Iñaki is linked to. So if we add that they are not suppose to have a good relationship with the Asturias it was logical that they moved to another country.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:44 PM
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Let's be logical, to have good or bad relation with your sister-in-law it does not do that you change of country, less when you live in a different city, it is totally ridiculous . It is an absurd invention of the press, because is to speak about the Princess what gives money. Many people forget that for many years both Infantas did separated lives and was very difficult to see them together.

Another question is the problem of Iñaki's business, which could have had bad consequences for him and for the Royal House. This is an important question.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:45 PM
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The ring doesn't mean anything, we have seen Letizia and Felipe without a ring too.
Even my parents don't wear rings.
The rumours didn't start because of that.
Felipe and Letizia only didn't wear rings at the casual sports events, ex. regatas, skiing, they might be afraid to lose the ring since Fred of Denmark did lose his ring while diving . But all the young royals wore their rings at formal events. Inaki was in Las Vagas to announce a big service plan for Telefonica, a very formal event, a big accomplishment for Telefonica. It seems he purposedly 'invited' the gossips, totally unnecessary, no matter what has happened, he and Cristina are still married. If Felipe or Letizia didn't wear their ring at the PoA awards, you don't think people would start gossip ?
I certainly hope the rumors were not true. I think Cristina has always loved Inaki, they have 4 beautiful children, even they might have arguments, crisis, hopefully they work things out. There are certainly many bright things for the family to look forward to.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:48 PM
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Felipe and Letizia only didn't wear rings at the casual sports events, ex. regatas, skiing, they might be afraid to lose the ring since Fred of Denmark did lose his ring while diving . But all the young royals wore their rings at formal events. Inaki was in Las Vagas to announce a big service plan for Telefonica, a very formal event, a big accomplishment for Telefonica. It seems he purposedly 'invited' the gossips, totally unnecessary, no matter what has happened, he and Cristina are still married. If Felipe or Letizia didn't wear their ring at the PoA awards, you don't think people would start gossip ?
Of course that they'll start!
I know few men who sometimes simply forget to wear their wedding bands. And they are still married.

I hope that these are only rumours.
Besided C&I aren't the royal/princely only couple who moved to the other country for business matters.
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Do we know for sure that she attended the Belgian birthday-party without Inaki? Or are there only no photos of them together?
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:50 PM
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According to Jaime Penafiel on TeleCinco, the problem is Inaki's business.

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The reasons are, according to Dr. Royal House, "business" of the Duke of Palma. Peñafiel said that Royal "does not like anyone to get into businesses, jobs, yes, but businesses do not, especially when it oversteps the bounds of discretion."
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:56 PM
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According to the Belgian Board Inaki was seen together with Cristina at Phillippes birthday party. So I think this is the proof that the crisis rumours are false.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:57 PM
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Lula I didn't say that, I tried to answer the other post that mentioned that. I think it was an amount of factors but imo it was the corruption case the most important factors, and that Barcelona was not as friendly as before.

About the relationship between the princess and the infanta, Pilar Eyre said today that in Iñaki's 40 birthday Letizia only talked to his husband and she didn't speak one to the rest of the family. IMO if all the press say that they don't have a good relationship even Lecturas that always says the nice things of SRF, it's not all inventions of the press.

Stefanie I didn't see a photo of them together, everyone is saying that after she went to Washington, he came to Spain so it could be impossible that he was at his birthday, any photo?
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:01 PM
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Let's be logical, to have good or bad relation with your sister-in-law it does not do that you change of country, less when you live in a different city, it is totally ridiculous . It is an absurd invention of the press, because is to speak about the Princess what gives money. Many people forget that for many years both Infantas did separated lives and was very difficult to see them together.

Another question is the problem of Iñaki's business, which could have had bad consequences for him and for the Royal House. This is an important question.
Completely agree. Some people tend to forget Inaki had already been working for Telefonica for a couple of years as the Latin American Counselor before the family moved to DC. He had to travel a lot to North/South America, the family could spend more time together after moving to Washington DC, also more convenient for his work.
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:15 PM
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Melibea, I only have said that it is totally absurd to blame the Princess for everything what happens in the Royal Family.

If you have read the article of the magazine Lecturas, it gives the idea that is the infanta Cristina the one that does not accept a decision of the Princess and the one that gets angry ... and in the same news they remember as the Infanta Cristina already has had moments in which she has been distanced from her mother or her sister. The Infanta always has been a woman with character and independently enough, that chose the freedom of Barcelona to the pressure of Madrid.
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:21 PM
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I was explaining to different things, first why I think they went to USA (if you read me you can see that the princess has a marginal if at all effect in that decision, for me at least). And why I think that in the SRF is not all as happy as they try to make us think.
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Old 05-04-2010, 03:12 PM
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I think the so called 'frictions' had a lot to do with 'big family syndrome'. Letizia is the crown princess, it's reasonable that she wants to gradually expands her role, Sofia is in her 70s, many might expect her to gradually reduce her role, however she still enjoys her good health, works at her full speed (she had the most acts in the family last year), so the infantas were the ones who had to reduce her workload to make room for Letizia. I don't think Elena cares, but Cristina is the one who seems to enjoy the royal work, she probably has a hard time to see her work reduced (that was even before she moved to DC) IMO.

If the SRF were like the other royal houses, each receives money from the state directly, manages their own life and work independently, it wouldn't have this type of 'big family syndrome' (at least less) IMO.
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Old 05-04-2010, 03:42 PM
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Donna, the Infantas have been educated for it from girls, they know that in the future their rol will be the one that now their aunts the Infantas Pilar and Margarita have. This is the Monarchy. At this moment the position of the Infantas is comfortable, they support their privileges as members of the Royal Family, but their responsibilities every time are less.
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Old 05-04-2010, 03:44 PM
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In that I agree with you, they knew their own role since girls so for me the jealous issue is a press invention. But imo they don't have a good relationship with the princess for another reason.
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Old 05-04-2010, 04:15 PM
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They are not at the situation of Infanta Pilar and Margarita yet since their father is still the King. It's easy to say that they know one day they would be at the situation of their aunts, but it's not so easy to see their roles being reduced so quickly when their father is still the King IMO, they are only humans. Plus Infanta Pilar was not happy about her role either, there were many gossips about her strained relationship with Sofia.
It's always easy to point fingers at women, but it's very obvious that the relationship between Cristina and Felipe had turned completely cold, something substantial must have happened, for example, different opinions on Inaki's business, roles inside the family and etc. I don't see Elena had much issue with Letizia/Felipe, probably Cristina dragged her to be her 'ally' in the family IMO.
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Old 05-05-2010, 12:40 AM
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If info was stated by Jaime Penafiel, I don't believe it. He has had a vendetta against the Royal Family for a long time and I'm not sure what happened as he used to be a big supporter I believe.
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Old 05-05-2010, 01:46 AM
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More marriage trouble in the Spanish royal family?
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Old 05-05-2010, 02:25 AM
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Donna, the Infantas have been educated for it from girls, they know that in the future their rol will be the one that now their aunts the Infantas Pilar and Margarita have. This is the Monarchy. At this moment the position of the Infantas is comfortable, they support their privileges as members of the Royal Family, but their responsibilities every time are less.
I agree here, too. The infantas did have a very "important supporting" role during the time, when Felipe was single. Then a new Princess of Asturias came and this did automatically mean, that the infantas were sent into the "second row". They knew it before -- but maybe "theoretically knowing it" does not equals to "really experiencing it".... and for some characters this may have been easier, for some harder. And this step back may be even harder, if you do not like your sister in law. Or maybe that stepping back was the reason, why she did not like her????
Hmmmmm
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Old 05-05-2010, 04:21 AM
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I believe that the Infantas have had time enough to get used. The Princess has late several years in having acts alone, and until this year she has not travelled alone out of Spain ... the process has lasted 6 years not one month. In addition, when the Princess arrived the activity of the Infantas was already enough limited.

Certainly, that the reduction of the official activity has not supposed a reduction of privileges. They receive money of the budget of the Royal House, have secretary, bodyguards, the Infanta Elena persons who take care of the horses, a house in Mallorca each one and they use the royal yacht more than the own King ... and free all that. While the Princess agrees to dress Spanish design, the Infantas fill their cupboards with designs of Lacroix, Chanel or Armani without nobody criticizes them for it.

The Infanta Elena has passed for a process of divorce and the problems with Iñaki's business are not new. Situations that have forced to limit their exhibition in public acts.

The problems of Iñaki's business are not new, it nor is Peñafiel's news. It is a topic that the press takes commenting years, and that it had repercussion great when it was known that a public institution had paid 1 million Euros to his company to organize a few acts. For this reason Iñaki had to leave the company. Now some politicians who contracted his company are being judged for cases of corruption, and the information about the contracts and the money that received his company is in the courts.
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