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Old 04-07-2019, 04:52 PM
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Very impressive to hear that they found the ring so quickly, normally things of such value are hard to recover. I hope this teaches Olympia a lesson - always take care of valuable items!
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Old 04-07-2019, 09:24 PM
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A Diamond Ring set with 40 carat diamond, coming from Empress Eugenie, has been stolen from the car of Prince Jean Christophe Napoleon fiancee, Countess Olympia von Arco-Zinneberg on 1 April

History of Famous Jewels and Collections: A Bonaparte diamond stolen in Paris

http://www.leparisien.fr/faits-diver...19-8047248.php
I am curious about the source of your report that the ring was stolen from Olympia's car... a report that then gave way to several people criticising her carelessness rather severely. By contrast, Marlene Koenig - who tends to get her facts right - reports that it was in fact her fiancé who left the jewel (plus computer plus identification cards) in an unlocked Mercedes.

Royal Musings: Olympia has her ring back

Not that it's a matter of blame, mind you; it's something that could easily happen to any of us in one of the moments of carelessness that we all have. I mention it only because women are so often the first to judge and condemn other women... and it's a tendency that's worth watching and guarding against.
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Old 04-07-2019, 09:28 PM
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Yes the report I read said the bag was in his car. Question, was he aware his fiancé left her engagement ring in the bag, when he didn't take the bag from the car? Most women wouldn't leave an expensive ring in their briefcase. He may not have realized what he was leaving when he got out.

Well anyways, thankfully the ring is back where it belongs.
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Old 04-08-2019, 07:03 AM
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I am curious about the source of your report that the ring was stolen from Olympia's car... a report that then gave way to several people criticising her carelessness rather severely. By contrast, Marlene Koenig - who tends to get her facts right - reports that it was in fact her fiancé who left the jewel (plus computer plus identification cards) in an unlocked Mercedes.

Royal Musings: Olympia has her ring back

Not that it's a matter of blame, mind you; it's something that could easily happen to any of us in one of the moments of carelessness that we all have. I mention it only because women are so often the first to judge and condemn other women... and it's a tendency that's worth watching and guarding against.
The April 5 Le Parisien report which eya summarized and the April 6 Le Parisien report which Marlene Koenig summarized both give the French judicial authorities as their sources. The report posted by eya is attributed to Jérémie Pham-Lê and Vincent Gautronneau and the report posted by Marlene Koenig is attributed to Geoffroy Tomasovitch and Jean-Michel Décugis.

My understanding is that eya and Mrs. Koenig were both sharing what Le Parisien stated in its reports, not carrying out their own research into the facts of the incident.

The second article and Mrs. Koenig's summary of it say that both Jean-Christophe and Olympia were in the car prior to the theft.
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Old 04-08-2019, 07:39 AM
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They found the royal jewel back , that is the most important !

I wonder who wore this Ring before Princess Clementine Napoléon , Princess Alix Napoleon , the Dowager still alive ?
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Old 04-08-2019, 10:04 AM
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They found the royal jewel back , that is the most important !

I wonder who wore this Ring before Princess Clementine Napoléon , Princess Alix Napoleon , the Dowager still alive ?
Yes, Princess Alix is still alive. I do hope that we get to see both her and Archduchess Margherita at the wedding.

Regarding the ring I have no idea. Such a statement piece would be instantly noticeable if seen today. I guess it came in to the family at the death of Empress Eugenie when Prince Victor, great-grandfather of Prince Jean Christophe, as heir to the Prince Imperial inherited a part of her fortune.
Correction: I just saw that you've written the same thing as I did above on the RJMB
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Old 04-08-2019, 10:32 AM
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Yes, Princess Alix is still alive. I do hope that we get to see both her and Archduchess Margherita at the wedding.

Actuallay i ferar we won't see Archduchess Margherita at the wedding as she didn't attend the wedding of Olimpia's sister Anna Theresia last September.
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Old 04-08-2019, 10:43 AM
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Actuallay i ferar we won't see Archduchess Margherita at the wedding as she didn't attend the wedding of Olimpia's sister Anna Theresia last September.
Yes, I know she wasn't there, but I still hope for her to attend this one.
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Old 04-08-2019, 12:18 PM
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To me, just a suggestion. Prince Louis Napoleon did not like his Son Charles and never gave the ring to his wife Princess Beatrice de Bourbon des Deux Siciles because he knew they would divorce what they did.
Prince Jean Christophe was his Heir when He passed away and had de support af his grand mother , Princess Napoleon , born Alix de Foresta.
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Old 04-08-2019, 04:01 PM
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Corrections of Vincent Meylan
The doors of their car were closed.
the Ring never belonged to Empress Eugenie but to the Imperial Family.
The Ring has not 40 carats
To see in the next point de Vue or Vincent's Instagram later.
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Old 04-08-2019, 04:19 PM
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Amazing that the ring was found so quickly. I had presumed that was one that wouldn't have turned up again.

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I am curious about the source of your report that the ring was stolen from Olympia's car... a report that then gave way to several people criticising her carelessness rather severely. By contrast, Marlene Koenig - who tends to get her facts right - reports that it was in fact her fiancé who left the jewel (plus computer plus identification cards) in an unlocked Mercedes.

Royal Musings: Olympia has her ring back

Not that it's a matter of blame, mind you; it's something that could easily happen to any of us in one of the moments of carelessness that we all have. I mention it only because women are so often the first to judge and condemn other women... and it's a tendency that's worth watching and guarding against.
I don't think it's exactly fair to say that everyone here is judging Olympia; I know that if it had been Jean-Christophe who had left the ring in his bag, I would've had the same reaction. It's a bit of a silly thing to leave in an unlocked car from anyone of any gender.
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Old 04-08-2019, 04:30 PM
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Corrections of Vincent Meylan
The doors of their car were closed.
the Ring never belonged to Empress Eugenie but to the Imperial Family.
The Ring has not 40 carats
To see in the next point de Vue or Vincent's Instagram later.
Thanks for the tip Maria Olivia. I'll keep my eyes open for Vincent's post.
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Old 04-09-2019, 11:22 PM
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The doors of their car were closed.
the Ring never belonged to Empress Eugenie but to the Imperial Family.
The Ring has not 40 carats
To see in the next point de Vue or Vincent's Instagram later.
The jewels didn't come from Eugenie's crown and it's not 40 carats?
Interesting that news sources in Germany, England, France, Spain, UK, Brazil, USA, and Egypt are reporting it as such. Kind of scary too how everything can be misconstrued. Value of the ring is also reported as being between 1 to 1.7 million euros.

Whole lot of trouble. Still surprised that it was Egyptian man. The hotel staff reported the man as being tall, charming, and appearing to be northern European. I guess he could be it, but it seems like a stretch. Maybe there were two thieves? I'm surprised that he stole from a car that the hotel's security cameras didn't have a view of too.
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Old 04-10-2019, 08:19 AM
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He was alone , he bought sushies and booked a 3 night stay in a hotel with the stolen creditcard !!!!.
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Old 04-12-2019, 03:10 AM
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Old 05-06-2019, 05:33 PM
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Prince Jean Christophe, in an interview in Le Figaro say that he and Countess Olympia Arco will get married on 19 October, at the Cathedrale Saint-Louis des Invalides in Paris.

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The Countess Olympia being a descendant of both the last Emperor of Austria and the last King of Bavaria, it is a fine match indeed...
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The Countess Olympia being a descendant of both the last Emperor of Austria and the last King of Bavaria, it is a fine match indeed...
Another marriage between descendants of King Louis Philippe and Queen Marie Amelie.
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Prince Jean Christophe, in an interview in Le Figaro say that he and Countess Olympia Arco will get married on 19 October, at the Cathedrale Saint-Louis des Invalides in Paris.

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A VERY prestigious and napoleonic place to get married i must say ...
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A VERY prestigious and napoleonic place to get married i must say ...
It's very fitting from a dynastic and symbolic point of view and also a bit surprising. I'd imagined that the couple would have chosen somewhere a bit more discreet.
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