Princess Alexandra Current Events 5: August 2005 - September 2005

[fromEU]

Originally Posted by Jasl

I agree to some extent. But you can't deny that it will be different once she remarries. It is likely that she might lose her allowance, in which case she can depend on her divorce settlement (which is probably considerable), or she will have to work again (I mean, for herself, and not as a member of the royal family). In which case we might not see her as much.

But who knows. I didn't really think that the Danish government would continue paying her allowance, but they have, so we'll have to see when it happens.

Her money from the Danish government is for life, even if she remarries. But if she remarries, she has to pay taxex of her money. But her house and a on-off-payment of about 10 million was paid for by Prince Joachim and he will also pay maintenance for the children.

[Jasl]

Originally Posted by fromEU

Her money from the Danish government is for life, even if she remarries. But if she remarries, she has to pay taxex of her money. But her house and a on-off-payment of about 10 million was paid for by Prince Joachim and he will also pay maintenance for the children.

Wow, really? I can't read Danish, so I'm just guessing here. It would be excellent if we could access a Danish legal database or something (something similar to austlii or scaleplus, or Hansard here in Australia) so we can have a look at the bill or parliamentary debate whereby they debated Alex's allowance. I can readily believe you though... and I think Thor has said the same thing on CPMaryMB.

At the same time, I still do have trouble believing that the allowance will continue even after she remarries. Its not that she's not hard working, because she is and her charities depend on her greatly... its just that royals get paid far more than the average person, and some (I know I would) have a problem with people who has lost most of their royal connection to continue being paid by the state. The law is changeable, and public opinion affects whether or not it will be retained. Personally, I think it will be hard to continue defending the current arrangements after remarriage.... but its up to the Danish parliament and the Danish people.

[galuhcandrakirana]

I think its a normal situation that when she agrees to keep working for those charity organisations (of course which belong to Denmark) then the country has to pay her. A princess or not when somebody work for someone they deserve to have payment. Alexandra has proofed that she is capable in doing her job then I am not very surprise if they want her to continue her job as a profesional (doesn't matter she remaries or not). About paying money for life time I don't know the real reason behind the decision (any Danish here can help explain more?), may be paying for life time means including pay her retire salary just like the other retire worker get. About what Joachim pay to her, I think she just gets what pre nuptial agreement had said:) .

[Stargate]

She should remarry. She is too good for him. Just because he has statues, it doesn't mean he is the right one for her. He didn't earn his statues,she did through hard work. It's not too healthy to always stay in the snobbish circle, she needs fresh air. She doesn't need to continue to do charity for Denmark just to put up a show. She should spend her time that are more meaningful for herself. The kids should not always stay in that snobbish circle either. She is asian,although she is of mixed ancestry, but she still is asian. Asians cannot be fully accepted in the european circle and cannot fully understand their mentality. I think it's time that she moves on to a better life, being mentally and psycologically healthy. That uppe class circle is really phony in many ways, just look at how innocent Diana was suffering tremendously. Certain women can endure that kind of loneliness, but not everybody. She is natural, unpretentious, that can be seen on her face. She is beautiful enough already, she doen't need a fake fascade to brighten her up.

Good luck my dear princess! Treat yourself well! Forget about him, he is nothing compared to you. Your real prince is waiting for you!!!!

[Stargate]

Wishing you the best luck and happiness with all my heart and soul!!!!!

[paulette]

Good luck to the princess. She is really hardworking.

[paulette]

NEXT ACTIVITIES

9-10-05
H.H. Prinsesse Alexandra åbner 14th Nordic Adoption Conference & First Global Research Conference on Adoption på Københavns Universitet, Njalsgade 126-128, København S, kl. 10.00.

9-12-05
H.H. Prinsesse Alexandra overværer som protektor åbningen af Københavns Internationale Børnefilmfestival ”BUSTER” i Palads Biograf, København, kl. 16.00.

9-20-05
H.H. Prinsesse Alexandra overværer som protektor ”Verdens Største Børnekor” på Århus Stadion, Stadion Allé 70, kl. 16.30 - 18.45.

[Mandy]

Originally Posted by paulette

NEXT ACTIVITIES

9-10-05
H.H. Prinsesse Alexandra åbner 14th Nordic Adoption Conference & First Global Research Conference on Adoption på Københavns Universitet, Njalsgade 126-128, København S, kl. 10.00.

9-12-05
H.H. Prinsesse Alexandra overværer som protektor åbningen af Københavns Internationale Børnefilmfestival ”BUSTER” i Palads Biograf, København, kl. 16.00.

9-20-05
H.H. Prinsesse Alexandra overværer som protektor ”Verdens Største Børnekor” på Århus Stadion, Stadion Allé 70, kl. 16.30 - 18.45.

Princess Alexandra's next activies have been translated by GrandDuchess in special thread for the entire family - here.

[Jasl]

Originally Posted by Stargate

She should remarry. She is too good for him..... She is asian,although she is of mixed ancestry, but she still is asian. Asians cannot be fully accepted in the european circle and cannot fully understand their mentality. .... That uppe class circle is really phony in many ways, just look at how innocent Diana was suffering tremendously....Good luck my dear princess! Treat yourself well! Forget about him, he is nothing compared to you. Your real prince is waiting for you!!!!

I disagree with a couple of things. They might not have been right for each other at the end, but I don't think one is too good for the other. I think Joachim has some excellent qualities, and he is hardworking, eventhough his work doesn't get as much publicity (let's face it, the media usually focuses on the princesses). So I really don't accept that Joachim is "nothing" compared to Alex. No human being can be nothing compared to another human being. I would never put a human being on such a high pedestal.

And about being Asian. Alex has said that she is as much a European as she is Asian. Her mum's full on German, and her dad is only half Asian, and she has many German relatives. I don't think the breakdown of their marriage is because Alex wasn't fully accepted... far from it! She was, for a very long time, the brightest star in the DRF. They had some private problems, and that's why they divorced.

In regards to Diana, she was already part of nobility, and she was certainly part of that group already - that was her world.

[norwegianne]

You can find the Danish laws, among other places, on http://www.ft.dk (in Danish) or http://www.retsinfo.dk (also Danish)

Law about yearly money for Princess Alexandra:
- She has a yearly basic sum of 1.526.000 DKR
- The sum is regulated on April 1st, and October 1st, in concurrence with Danish Statistic Index for Government Employees.
- The sum is paid in monthly rates.
- As long as she doesn't marry again, she'll not have to pay tax out of the money.
- When/if she marries, the yearly sum is replaced by a special tribute, with the same basic sum, but have to pay tax.
- As long as Princess Alexandra gets the yearly sum, or the special tribute, she can't get subsidized for working for the government.

(A mangled translation. I'm a bit tired.)

[rchainho]

thanks a lot for the info about her sum. Keep telling us infos about her. :)
Good translation.

[fromEU]

Originally Posted by norwegianne

You can find the Danish laws, among other places, on http://www.ft.dk (in Danish) or http://www.retsinfo.dk (also Danish)

Law about yearly money for Princess Alexandra:
- She has a yearly basic sum of 1.526.000 DKR
- The sum is regulated on April 1st, and October 1st, in concurrence with Danish Statistic Index for Government Employees.
- The sum is paid in monthly rates.
- As long as she doesn't marry again, she'll not have to pay tax out of the money.
- When/if she marries, the yearly sum is replaced by a special tribute, with the same basic sum, but have to pay tax.
- As long as Princess Alexandra gets the yearly sum, or the special tribute, she can't get subsidized for working for the government.

(A mangled translation. I'm a bit tired.)

The sum has been raised since the law was made. Alexandra now gets 1.8 million.
http://kongehuset.dk/artikel.php?dog...dk_org_okonomi

[Lillia]

Originally Posted by Stargate

She should remarry. She is too good for him. Just because he has statues, it doesn't mean he is the right one for her. He didn't earn his statues,she did through hard work. It's not too healthy to always stay in the snobbish circle, she needs fresh air. She doesn't need to continue to do charity for Denmark just to put up a show. She should spend her time that are more meaningful for herself. The kids should not always stay in that snobbish circle either. She is asian,although she is of mixed ancestry, but she still is asian. Asians cannot be fully accepted in the european circle and cannot fully understand their mentality. I think it's time that she moves on to a better life, being mentally and psycologically healthy. That uppe class circle is really phony in many ways, just look at how innocent Diana was suffering tremendously. Certain women can endure that kind of loneliness, but not everybody. She is natural, unpretentious, that can be seen on her face. She is beautiful enough already, she doen't need a fake fascade to brighten her up.

Good luck my dear princess! Treat yourself well! Forget about him, he is nothing compared to you. Your real prince is waiting for you!!!!

Too bad some people seem to want to make an issue of her ancestry:(

Notice that her children are also partially asian as well, like their mother -- and they are also royalty. It is ridiculous to think, in my opinion, that her heritage keeps her from being accepted. That would mean that her children wounld not be accepted fully also -- which I think is a crazy notion. Anyone with that idea on her, well, she does not need to ever be bothered with such small minded people anyway.

In the end, wealth, power, privledge and status tend to negate all that other crazy stuff that people want to use to divide themselves. She and her children have all of that (what most people think they themselves want) so it does not matter what anyone thinks anyway.

I like her, she's great!:)

[Lisele]

Originally Posted by Stargate

She should remarry. She is too good for him. Just because he has statues, it doesn't mean he is the right one for her. He didn't earn his statues,she did through hard work. It's not too healthy to always stay in the snobbish circle, she needs fresh air. She doesn't need to continue to do charity for Denmark just to put up a show. She should spend her time that are more meaningful for herself. The kids should not always stay in that snobbish circle either. She is asian,although she is of mixed ancestry, but she still is asian. Asians cannot be fully accepted in the european circle and cannot fully understand their mentality. I think it's time that she moves on to a better life, being mentally and psycologically healthy. That uppe class circle is really phony in many ways, just look at how innocent Diana was suffering tremendously. Certain women can endure that kind of loneliness, but not everybody. She is natural, unpretentious, that can be seen on her face. She is beautiful enough already, she doen't need a fake fascade to brighten her up.

Good luck my dear princess! Treat yourself well! Forget about him, he is nothing compared to you. Your real prince is waiting for you!!!!

I don't think that ancestry has anything to do with it. Neither do I think has culture have anything to do with it. If that were true then I cite Crown Princess Mary and Crown Princess Maxima who were not of that cultural background but still are accepted. Or are you talking about race here? If so, you're wrong. If anyone of these princesses didn't think they could rise to the occasion and perform in anyway up to the standards, I'm sure they would have chosen another path.

Just put yourself in their shoes, could you do that? Could you leave your home, traditions, friends, language and go to another world where you would have to learn everything from scratch? I salute these brave women who rose to the challenge and made a very good life despite having to live in an "alien" culture (in other words something they didn't grow up in) and embracing it as their own.

[Stargate]

First of all , in comparison to all the pure european royalty, she does look asian, that' s undeniable. I'm not saying that's negative. I think she is a great looking asian-european lady.

Second of all, it's not a crazy notion. Racial segregation and discriminations are everywhere. And i never said that her being multiracial is what led to her divorce.

"she does not need to ever be bothered with such small minded people anyway."

I am not small minded. You shouldn't make such a remark based on one thing a person says. Living in a multi-racial society and based on observations, i have noticed the complexities in the real world.

And i never said i didn't like her. I never try to attack her or anything. I was just giving out my opinion, like all of the rest of you.

[Stargate]

I think it's great that their royal kids are muti-racial. They are differnt and unique

[april]

i dont think she is asian . yeah she looks a little like asian but still she isnt asian

[H.M. Margrethe]

Originally Posted by april

i dont think she is asian . yeah she looks a little like asian but still she isnt asian

She is ½ Chinese and ½ Austrian. Her dad is Chinese and her mum is Austrian.

[april]

no . her dad is 1/2 chinese ,so she just 1/4 chinese

[bigheadshirmp]

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