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Old 03-21-2006, 08:42 PM
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Kig Ind week 12's cover....with interview with Marie Cavallier's interview

here's a translation of the front page of Kig Ind from Potter from the cpm message board:

Marie afslører alt! --- Marie reveals everything!
Vi gifter os --- We are going to marry
Joachim tager Maries navn --- Joachim takes Marie's name
Dater i Paris, London og Århus --- Dates in Paris, London and Aarhus
Sådan forkæler Joachim sin nye prinsesse --- How Joachim pampers his new princess
Marie: -Alex var skyld i skilsmissen! --- Marie: -Alex was guilty of the divorce!


Alex was guilty of the divorce?!! and they are going to get marry?!!! I'm just disappointed in this girl now! this girl keep on giving different interviews and posing for different magazines every day..there's always new photos of her everyday this week...I'm just getting tired of this girl now!
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Old 03-21-2006, 09:11 PM
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How can anyone be sure that Marie talked to this magazine Kig Ind. Maybe Kig Ind is improvising over and above what the other tabloids have reported.
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Old 03-21-2006, 09:31 PM
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I think so too. Kig Ind is a gossip magazine and with all the Danish tabloids out there with the same pictures and the story of Marie and Joachim out there, they have got to use something to beat their competitors.
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How can anyone be sure that Marie talked to this magazine Kig Ind. Maybe Kig Ind is improvising over and above what the other tabloids have reported.
Yep, that's my thoughts too. Kig Ind is really mostly about the gossip, fake or real, and I wouldn't trust them much at all.
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Joachim tager Maries navn --- Joachim takes Marie's name!
Sorry, but I don't understand the meaning of that headline. It doesn't mean that Joachim will give up his name and title and become Mr. Cavallier? They can't be serious....
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Old 03-22-2006, 06:30 AM
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Sorry, but I don't understand the meaning of that headline. It doesn't mean that Joachim will give up his name and title and become Mr. Cavallier? They can't be serious....
It's probably a reference to the name they registered under at a hotel earlier - Marie's surname. The double-meaning is typical for this gossip magazine, meant to make you wonder.
I wouldn't believe much of the stuff that this magazine publishes - not until it is verified other places.
But maybe it will be verified. Marie seems to be a rather talkative lady.....
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Old 03-22-2006, 09:16 AM
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Old 03-22-2006, 09:26 AM
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Being honest I have not really followed this story very closely, but I find it really odd that Marie is talking to the press like this, surely it is not the done thing?!

I know Sophie Wessex has done HELLO! etc but she was well established in Edward's life, I just do not get this whole publicity thing.
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Old 03-22-2006, 10:05 AM
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It's probably a reference to the name they registered under at a hotel earlier - Marie's surname. The double-meaning is typical for this gossip magazine, meant to make you wonder.
I wouldn't believe much of the stuff that this magazine publishes - not until it is verified other places.
But maybe it will be verified. Marie seems to be a rather talkative lady.....
Thank you. Now it makes at least a bit sense...
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This weeks editorial from Billed Bladet´s chief editor Anders Thisted

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Prins Joachim forsikrer, at han er lykkelig.
30-årige Marie Cavallier forsikrer, at hun er lykkelig.
Og så kan vi andre kun håbe, at det også ender lykkeligt, så prinsen får prinsessen og lever lykkeligt til deres dages ende.
Maries ankomst på den royale scene får speciel betydning for en helt tredje royal person: Joachims fraskilte hustru, prinsesse Alexandra, som ganske vist ikke er medlem af den kongelige familie længere, men har bibeholdt titlen som »hendes højhed og prinsesse«.
Den titel beholder Alexandra, sålænge hun forbliver ugift (med mindre hun finder sig en anden prins!). Men ender Joachim og Marie foran alteret vil det uundgåeligt påvirke Alexandra.
I de ni år Alexandra var gift med Joachim lykkedes det hende at oparbejde en enestående popularitet, og den har hun været i stand til at bevare en god del af, selvom skilsmissen, hendes kæresteri med fotografen og lydmanden, den 28-årige Martin Jørgensen, og ikke mindst kronprinsesse Marys indtog har svækket Alexandras position en smule.
Nu risikerer hun konkurrence fra en ny kant, en ny ung, smuk, velformuleret og veluddannet prinsesse Marie, der næppe vil stille sig tilfreds med en afskærmet og isoleret tilværelse i stuerne på Schackenborg Slot i Møgeltønder.
Men den uhyre flittige og ambitiøse Alexandra har næppe til hensigt frivilligt at afgive så meget som en tomme af den plads, det er lykkedes hende at erobre på den royale scene. Hun vil holde fast i sine 27 protektioner og 6 æresmedlemskaber, selvom hun nødvendigvis må acceptere, at hofetiketten skubber hende et par trin ned ad stigen til fordel for Marie, idet Joachims nye hustru vil komme til at overtage den stol, Alexandra sidder på i dag, når dronningen byder til fest.
Men Alexandras indstilling er den, at hun nok skiller sig fra prins Joachim, men at hun aldeles ikke har til hensigt at lade sig skille fra det danske folk.
Meget har hun fået foræret gennem de ni år, hun var alene på scenen, men nu må Alexandra forberede sig på, at prinsesse-tilværelsen bliver lidt mere op ad bakke.



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Old 03-22-2006, 11:22 AM
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Can someone translate the article above??

thank you so much !!
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Old 03-22-2006, 11:36 AM
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i'm so glad others think this is weird. if i were dating a prince i would try to be like mary and keep it to myself and not risk running him off or making his family mad. if this girl is talking this much (and we know u can't trust the tabloids) especially without the go head from PJ or the DRF, if i were them it would make me very distrustfull of her.
PJ was in another country (Thailand?) trying to get out a good message and goodwill for Denmark and his girlfriend steals all the attention on the magazine covers seems like a stupid plan for a campaign for public acceptance. JMO i mean no disrespect but she screams "i want to be a princess." it is very phony and calculated but was it hatched between the two of them or did she decide to hurry up things a bit? guess we'll know if and when she disappears, i do know she'll regret letting the press get so "close" they'll turn on her so quick she won't know what happened.
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Old 03-22-2006, 11:58 AM
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This weeks editorial from Billed Bladet´s chief editor Anders Thisted

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Prins Joachim forsikrer, at han er lykkelig.
30-årige Marie Cavallier forsikrer, at hun er lykkelig.
Og så kan vi andre kun håbe, at det også ender lykkeligt, så prinsen får prinsessen og lever lykkeligt til deres dages ende.
Maries ankomst på den royale scene får speciel betydning for en helt tredje royal person: Joachims fraskilte hustru, prinsesse Alexandra, som ganske vist ikke er medlem af den kongelige familie længere, men har bibeholdt titlen som »hendes højhed og prinsesse«.
Den titel beholder Alexandra, sålænge hun forbliver ugift (med mindre hun finder sig en anden prins!). Men ender Joachim og Marie foran alteret vil det uundgåeligt påvirke Alexandra.
I de ni år Alexandra var gift med Joachim lykkedes det hende at oparbejde en enestående popularitet, og den har hun været i stand til at bevare en god del af, selvom skilsmissen, hendes kæresteri med fotografen og lydmanden, den 28-årige Martin Jørgensen, og ikke mindst kronprinsesse Marys indtog har svækket Alexandras position en smule.
Nu risikerer hun konkurrence fra en ny kant, en ny ung, smuk, velformuleret og veluddannet prinsesse Marie, der næppe vil stille sig tilfreds med en afskærmet og isoleret tilværelse i stuerne på Schackenborg Slot i Møgeltønder.
Men den uhyre flittige og ambitiøse Alexandra har næppe til hensigt frivilligt at afgive så meget som en tomme af den plads, det er lykkedes hende at erobre på den royale scene. Hun vil holde fast i sine 27 protektioner og 6 æresmedlemskaber, selvom hun nødvendigvis må acceptere, at hofetiketten skubber hende et par trin ned ad stigen til fordel for Marie, idet Joachims nye hustru vil komme til at overtage den stol, Alexandra sidder på i dag, når dronningen byder til fest.
Men Alexandras indstilling er den, at hun nok skiller sig fra prins Joachim, men at hun aldeles ikke har til hensigt at lade sig skille fra det danske folk.
Meget har hun fået foræret gennem de ni år, hun var alene på scenen, men nu må Alexandra forberede sig på, at prinsesse-tilværelsen bliver lidt mere op ad bakke.



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Prince Joachim ensures us, that he is happy.
30-year-old Marie Cavallier ensures us, that she is happy.
And the rest of us can only hope that it has a happy ending, so that the prince gets the princess and they live happily ever after.

Marie's arrival on the royal stage will have a special meaning for a third royal person: Joachim's ex-wife, Princess Alexandra, who certainly isn't member of the royal family any more, but have kept the title as "her highness and princess."

Alexandra will keep that title as long as she stays unmarried (unless she finds herself another prince.) But if Joachim and Marie end up before the altar, it will indubitably affect Alexandra.

For the nine years Alexandra and Joachim were married, she succeeded in gaining an extreme popularity, and she's been able to keep a great deal of it, even if the divorce, her relationship with photgrapher/sound man, 28-year-old Martin Jørgensen, and Crown Princess Mary's arrival, have diminished Alexandra's position a bit.

Now she's risking competition from another area, a new, beautiful, well-articulated and well-educated princess Marie, who likely won't be satisfied with a withdrawn and isolated life in the halls of Schackenborg Castle in Møgeltønder.

But the extremely hardworking and ambitious Alexandra hardly has the intention to voluntarily give up as much as an inch of the space that she has succeeded in conquering for herself at the royal stage. She will hang on to her 27 protectorates and 6 honor memberships, even if she will have to accept that the royal etiquette will push her down the ladder a few steps in favour of Marie, as Joachim's new wife will take over the chair on which Alexandra sits today when the Queen invites to parties.

But Alexandra's position is that which she has divorced Joachim, but she does not have the intention to divorce the Danish people.

She has been given many things during the nine years in which she was alone on the stage, but now Alexandra has to get used to that the princess-life gets a bit harder.
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Translation from Billed Bladet.
What a nasty piece of stuff to write about a person who is really innocent in all this mess!

But thank you very much for the translation, Norwegianne. I had to smile a bit about the sentance: "a withdrawn and isolated life in the halls of Schackenborg Castle in Møgeltønder" - that sounds so medieval! As if the author cannot imagine someone enjoying life in the countryside (even if the place is named Møgeltønder - which for a German really sounds isolated and out of an Ibsen-novel). LOL!
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Old 03-22-2006, 12:42 PM
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I have to agree with the author in one respect. Based upon Marie's action of the last week or so, she certainly is not going sit in the shadows of Alexandra if she does marry Joachim.

I also hope she has no skeltons in her closet...now that she has opened herself up....the press will be houndless in trying to know everything about her!
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Old 03-22-2006, 12:44 PM
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Well, Joachim seems to be part of the publicity game, if the pictures can be any fair judge, which I grant you may not be the case. Frederik has outdone him at last. For so long, it was Joachim who was happy in marriage and family, the ideal prince with his trophy wife and sons. Now the "ideal" is Frederik, and Joachim needs to live up to him, instead of the reverse. He needs a wife to do that. It seems like this is a campaign to win Marie over to the public because, pretty and sweet as she may be, she will have big shoes to fill. Alexandra has been a perfect princess, so any second wife of Joachim will be compared to her most harshly.
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This more and more seems, to me, like a strategy that was devised should Marie's identity be discovered, rather than something Marie came out and started herself. (at least I hope so.) Especially, judging from the article in Billed Bladet from when Marie visited Schackenborg, and it mentioned her flying back to Geneva, journalists revealing who she was didn't seem too far away, in my opinion.
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Even so, it seems a strange strategy to use if they're not serious.

Although I do agree that if they are serious, it looks like they are trying to create an image for Marie. If they had waited until Marie was found out by the press, they would have been reactive and not had as good a chance of getting a particular image out. I don't think its necessarily for acceptance but to ensure that Marie has an image as different as possible from Alexandra to head off any comparisons between the two.

Joachim knews that whoever he would be serious with would go through tough times being compared to Alexandra and so I don't think women were jumping to have a relationship with him with all the baggage he brings.

If Joachim really loves Marie, its natural that he would want to make things easier for her.

The downside is that it made the situation is particularly tough for Alexandra, but Joachim can't win in either case, either he protects the reputation of his first wife and sets up his second wife to take the brunt of ill will or else he tries to set up his second wife favorably and the first wife's position suffers.

There was no easy way out of this.
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Let´s give the girl a chance now that Joachim has arrived to Denmark and be aware of all the fuss with his girlfriend...maybe she will start with a low profile...some will say its late...but if she beggins that will be great!!
besides...maybe she is just a transition girl...nobody knows that she is a formal girlfriend...maybe joachim wants to take sometime before marry again withe someone...and if marie is the one...maybe the DRH will start the protocol, language ,etc classes and we will see the change on her and be more appreciated for all.

Best Regards as always to all!!
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Ifshe starts to be more discreet now, I will definetly give her a chance. She seems nice.. just a chatterbox who could need some guidance perhaps If it is serious.. I wish the court would say something about. It is a bit weird that they are so quiet??
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