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Old 11-21-2003, 03:26 AM
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Originally posted by Lady Jean@Nov 20th, 2003 - 4:22 pm
Dennism, bewitching eyes is right. There is something about her features that is Anne Boleyn-ish to me.
Keep the pics coming, this is fun.
Lady Jean, you're right!

There's something about her... Have you read 'The Other Boleyn Girl' by Philippa Gregory? Great book.
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Old 11-22-2003, 07:21 AM
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why on earth did she do a modeling course?? when was that?
thanks for posting the pictures, i hadnt seen them either:-)
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Old 11-22-2003, 10:53 AM
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she had the course few weeks after meeting the prince at the Olympics, might be 5 weeks after that. it was more of helping herself to build up confidence and how to pose for the media, some etiquette. i also wonder why she enrolled herself for that, don't understand that , but some people think that she did it because she was after the Crown, preparing herself for that,... I think there might be some truth in that.....

another thing which i don't understand is why is she still shy or appear to be shy when she's with the public.. probably too much for her to take at this time.? i symphatise with her sometimes coz i think she might not be appropriate to be the kind of person which is under constant limelight. she look so fragile !! i hope she can change on that.

from the modelling photos, i only like the 3rd and 4th ones . they look ok to me but she looked really normal in those photos, doesn't look gorgeous nor outstanding.. she look a bit big though..i prefer the way she looks now, she seems to know how to dress up and make herself look pretty but still room for improvement.

All in all.. i think she has lots of potential to be the next much-sought-after CP.

she looks really happy and natural in the photo posted by alexandria. mm.. if u notice the second photo posted by salma, mary seems to be a bit disgusted or annoyed with the media , another indication that she doens't enjoy the limelight, finding it stressful ?? poor girl..
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Old 11-23-2003, 04:33 PM
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Crown Princess Mary News: November 2003 - September 2004

Anna provided a link to a video of Frederik and Mary's press conference on the day of their engagement and I must say that Mary seems quite charming! I found her to be very likeable and appropriately spunky. She seems as if she has a sense of humor as well.

For some reason she is much more likeable in video (and in real-life, I would imagine&#33 than in photographs. Not that I disliked her from her photos but I was never really quite sure if I really liked her. After having seen her on video I can say that I do like her.

Does anyone else have this feeling? That she is more likeable on video than in photographs?

Anyway, I came away with a good feeling AND there is a good chemistry between Mary and Frederik in the video. :)
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Old 11-23-2003, 04:54 PM
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I can't really give my opinion on Mary yet even though I've seen the video of her from the press conferenceand the interview. She seems to generalise most of the questions and answer them in a third person.

In most photographs i have seen of her she seems to be flirting with the camera. Sometimes the picture of her appears to be proud and arrogant. But the media is largely responsible for presenting her in these pictures.

I think I rather wait until after she's married. Then I will be able to see how she is--whether she's involve charity functions or humanitarian events rather than royal dinners or high society events.
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Old 11-23-2003, 06:36 PM
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I have to say that I agree with you, Julia. I went to the link anna posted and watched the clip. Mary's nervousness comes off clearly in the video whereas in pictures, she came off as a bit aloof. And hearing her speak in Danish it was very endearing to see how hard she was trying to speak the language and to speak it well. There was a definite sense of 'make or break' for her as she first started to speak; as if she really understood that this was her "first" (formal) impression upon the Danish public and a lot of public opinion of her would be based on this one moment.

I don't know what flawless Danish, or even well-spoken Danish sounds like, so I cannot comment on that.

But from Mary's body language, the constant playing with her hair, it was obvious that she was quite a nervous young lady.

Funny, but I thought Frederik sort of came off as bad in this video, whereas in pictures he had the air of a lovesick, gushing puppy, especially in pictures of him showing the ring to the cameras. It was Frederik whom I thought seemed a bit aloof.

And could he and Mary have sat further apart on that couch from one another?! Geeze! Margrethe could've gone in and sat between them! In hindsight, when you look at pictures of Felipe and Letizia's engagement, they were always holding hands and sanding arm to arm, but here it was a very different vibe indeed.

All in all, the video makes a very different case for Ms. Mary Donaldson then her pictures did of that day. ... From now on, I say, only videos of Mary here!
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Old 11-23-2003, 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by Alexandria@Nov 23rd, 2003 - 4:36 pm
I have to say that I agree with you, Julia. I went to the link anna posted and watched the clip. Mary's nervousness comes off clearly in the video whereas in pictures, she came off as a bit aloof. And hearing her speak in Danish it was very endearing to see how hard she was trying to speak the language and to speak it well. There was a definite sense of 'make or break' for her as she first started to speak; as if she really understood that this was her "first" (formal) impression upon the Danish public and a lot of public opinion of her would be based on this one moment.

I don't know what flawless Danish, or even well-spoken Danish sounds like, so I cannot comment on that.

But from Mary's body language, the constant playing with her hair, it was obvious that she was quite a nervous young lady.

Funny, but I thought Frederik sort of came off as bad in this video, whereas in pictures he had the air of a lovesick, gushing puppy, especially in pictures of him showing the ring to the cameras. It was Frederik whom I thought seemed a bit aloof.

And could he and Mary have sat further apart on that couch from one another?! Geeze! Margrethe could've gone in and sat between them! In hindsight, when you look at pictures of Felipe and Letizia's engagement, they were always holding hands and sanding arm to arm, but here it was a very different vibe indeed.

All in all, the video makes a very different case for Ms. Mary Donaldson then her pictures did of that day. ... From now on, I say, only videos of Mary here!
It was very endearing to see how hard Mary was trying to get everything just right in this first formal appearance, wasn't it? She really made a tremendous effort.

It was odd that Frederik and Mary sat so far apart. However, I wonder if he sat far from her so that she would be given her "due" so to speak? Or, was he terribly nervous? OR, is Frederik just not comfortable with physical displays of affection in front of the press? I did feel that he was proud of her, though.
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Old 11-23-2003, 06:54 PM
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OR, is Frederik just not comfortable with physical displays of affection in front of the press? I did feel that he was proud of her, though.
Yes, maybe Frederik isn't a very affectionate person in front of cameras. And maybe he really did want Mary to shine on this occasion of her own accord and not be like an attached limb to her. Which is fine, but on their engagement day, I wanted to see, even just once, a pat on the knee to reassure Mary. Or some other simple gesture like that, even once. I'm not saying I'd have liked to see Frederik "plant a big one" on Mary in the middle of the press conference, but a pat on the knee, a rub of her back, to hold her hand for a few seconds? Too much to ask?

But yes, Julia, I do agree that while Mary was speaking Danish in the intro, Frederik did seem quite pleased with her efforts.
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Old 11-23-2003, 07:01 PM
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It would have indeed been nice to see Frederik give Mary a supportive pat, or something...
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Old 11-30-2003, 01:55 PM
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Where can I look for the link of the video clip by Anna?
I really want to see it.

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Old 11-30-2003, 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by paulette+Nov 30th, 2003 - 6:55 pm--></div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (paulette &#064; Nov 30th, 2003 - 6:55 pm)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>Where can I look for the link of the video clip by anna?
I really want to see it. :)[/b]
<!--QuoteBegin-anna@Nov 23rd, 2003 - 1:04 am

The dr1&#39;s engagement day : http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/kongehuset/articl...rticleID=125556

To view the pressconference - there you click on :
Pressemøde med Mary Donaldson og kronprins Frederik på Fredensborg Slot (8.oktober 2003)

To view Mary&#39;s danish intro - there you click on :
Mary Donaldsons tale på dansk (8.oktober 2003)

To view dr1&#39;s solo interview wiht the couple - there you click on :
DRs Morten Løkkegaard interviewer Mary Donaldson og kronprins Frederik (den 8. oktober 2003)

Much more in the dr1&#39;s engagement collection :
http://www.dr.dk/nyheder/kongehuset/

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It would have indeed been nice to see Frederik give Mary a supportive pat, or something...
He did - his way - after she had finished her danish intro - he made big eyes to her and nodded as signs of his approval - then he grabbed her hand and gave it pat - discreet, but positive - I think :)
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Old 11-30-2003, 10:14 PM
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He did do that i was the video, he was very happy she try to speak in danish.
And i just telling very one here that i have 3months to go to have my baby.
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Old 12-03-2003, 02:28 PM
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weird head postures when in front of cameras

someone in her modeling course must have instructed her to always lift her chin. the result are those slightly haughty appearances...


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Old 12-03-2003, 05:24 PM
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bibi, Dec 3rd, 2003 - 7:52 pm - they should have told her instead: it was lady dianas shy smile from below that touches peoples hearts. mary does it when she doesnt have time to thinka bout her modeling rules, when there is too much pressure, such as during the press conference.
Unlike royal message board posters
- the danes watched Mary on big screen tvs
- and did indeed become infactuated
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Old 12-04-2003, 12:19 AM
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I like mary&#39;s pic (with anna&#39;s post) where she&#39;s at the press conference laughing--it&#39;s natural. On the other hand, the pic of her in teh pink dress ( with Bibi&#39;s post) shows her head tilted and sucking her cheeks in. I think this method is taught in most model course or at photo shoots inorder to appear thin, sexy, myseriious or whatever.
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Old 12-04-2003, 03:11 AM
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I think Mary looks gorgeous in the pink dress. Very noble&#33;

In the green dress I think she sucks her cheeks in a bit too much. Maybe it&#39;s something she does when she&#39;s nervous. Some sort of tic.
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weird head postures when in front of cameras

someone in her modeling course must have instructed her to always lift her chin. the result are those slightly haughty appearances...
bibi, "haughty" is a good description; probably better than the one that popped into my mind -- "constipated." The previous poster is absolutely right... Mary looks wonderful when she doesn&#39;t think about being watched -- natural, warm, pretty. But who am I to talk, when I see a camera (let alone dozens of cameras) pointed at me, I automatically adopt what I THINK is a natural looking pose; however, the results are most often photographs of me looking like I am being painfully tortured or that I have had wayyyy too much to drink. Ah well... fortunately I can hide from the camera... she cannot.
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Old 12-04-2003, 04:36 AM
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Why on earth does every young woman who marries into a royal family have to be compared with Diana??

The woman was no saint and was certainly not the template for a princess.

How about looking to someone like Princess Anne (who works her tail off) or Princess Alexandra of Denmark for a Princess Role model.

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How about looking to someone like Princess Anne (who works her tail off) or Princess Alexandra of Denmark for a Princess Role model.

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Old 12-08-2003, 01:54 AM
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" Why on earth does every young woman who marries into a royal family have to be compared with Diana??

The woman was no saint and was certainly not the template for a princess."

I have to agree. I wasn&#39;t her biggest fan. I had no complaints with her really. She just didn&#39;t have the same effect on me as apparently she has had on millions of other people. Go figure. Yes, I love Mary in that green dress. She is so lovely.
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