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Old 09-14-2015, 10:14 AM
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Fred, Haakon and Victoria are not cousins. Fred's maternal grandmother and Victoria's paternal grandfather were siblings. Consequently Fred's mother and Victoria's father are cousins. The relationship between them and Haakon is even more distant.

They are second cousins, while their parents are first cousins.
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Old 09-15-2015, 04:04 PM
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I think I'll put this here: Et billede af kronprinssessen skaber hidsig debat: 'Nej, nej, nej, Mary' - Danmark | www.bt.dk

As you know there are always someone who can find some fault somewhere, if they look hard enough.

The picture of Mary cycling on a Nihola bike with her children on a late summers day on the way back from the kindergarten, has been spread all over the Net.
VisitCopenhagen, that promotes tourism to Copenhagen, have used it and so has Danish Cyclist Association (who IMO ought to change its name to Danish Two-wheeled Kamikaze Association).

But some do not approve of Josephine and Vincent not wearing helmets and because Mary rarely makes mistakes BT has written an article about this.

It's far from all who wish the twins had used helmets who "har ondt i røven = (something like) Whose butt hurts", most seem genuinely concerned.
Like this example: "Well, do remember those tumble-bonnets (slang for helmets), accidents can also occur on short trips".

Some are more sensible and inquire: "Wonder if they forgot the helmets"?

Some are more horrified: "No, no, no, Mary".

They are being countered by remarks like: "Oh, shut up about those mindless bicycle-helmet comments, it's almost religious... STOP".

Another comments: "We have the most cool Crown Princess in the world and I'm sure there are more dangerous things than cycling with your children in the middle of Copenhagen, surrounded by security, so cool it".

Klaus Bondam, chairman of the Cyclist Association comments: "I've shared the picture (on their site) because I think it's a good picture of a cycling rolemodel whom we all know who is. The fact that we have a Crown Princess who cycle in, for her, ordinary clothes in order to pick up her children, is an image of how we move around town. 30 % of families in Copenhagen with two children or more use the cargo-bike as their primary mode of transportation. In that wat they fit the image incredibly well".

As to what he thinks about helmets not being used: "It's a personal choice whether to us helmets. They have made a choice in the royal family and I will not be the judge of that.
I'm confident that should the accident happen, there are enough people around to take care of them".

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Well, we are very fortunate here in DK that the issues we have with our Crown Princess are at this level.
And in all fairness I don't recall having seen M&F transport their children without helmets very often. - So I lean towards they simply were dropped off by car that morning and Mary plain forgot to bring the helmets when she went for her children. - That happens. The alternative would be to walk the twins back to Amalienborg or to call a car. - For a few hundred meters, most of being on a very quiet street.

So, should she have ensured her children wore helmets IMO? Yes, when possible, because accidents do happen and more importantly it's a good habit to install in children. (Fortunately and in contrast to adults, most children on bikes now do use helmets, mainly because the helmets look cool nowadays).
However, how many times have I been out biking with my own children, without them wearing a helmet? Too often for me to point my finger at Mary, that's for sure!

Anyway, as all parents know, once you have a child somehow, at some point, no matter what you do, that child will manage to hurt itself. That's life and it's the only way to teach them that some things are dangerous.
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Old 09-15-2015, 04:18 PM
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Thanks Muhler! We've seen that Fred & Mary are cautious about helmets when going on a bike tour with the kids, they all wear helmets.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Wdef8AZDeI...ess-Mary-1.jpg

I think the adults can decide for themselves anyway since there is no law to wear a helmet. In Germany most kids wear helmets but most adults of my generation, who never used them, still don't.

I work for a dutch company and my boss is dutch, they almost never wear helmets, children or adults, my boss told me a story from his vacation, he went to a camping area in Holland with lots of families & children and one day all children went on a bike tour and out of 42 children one boy wore a helmet and he was german
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Old 09-15-2015, 04:38 PM
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Oh, I don't wear helmet myself...

Yes it's typically BT. First the 'scandal' about Queen Margrethe smoking cigarettes near her grandchildren, and now this. I'm getting so tired.

Reading the comments from the Danes I dare to go as far to say that 99,5% are "Oh my God, how stupid an article it is. We have the world's most cool and down-to-earth Crown Princess who go take the bike and picks up her children from kindergarten instead of a nanny. Well done, Mary"

It's almost embarrassing for BT

https://www.facebook.com/ditbt/posts/1221828231177726
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Old 09-15-2015, 05:51 PM
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Well, we are very fortunate here in DK that the issues we have with our Crown Princess are at this level.
And in all fairness I don't recall having seen M&F transport their children without helmets very often. - So I lean towards they simply were dropped off by car that morning and Mary plain forgot to bring the helmets when she went for her children. - That happens. The alternative would be to walk the twins back to Amalienborg or to call a car. - For a few hundred meters, most of being on a very quiet street.

So, should she have ensured her children wore helmets IMO? Yes, when possible, because accidents do happen and more importantly it's a good habit to install in children. (Fortunately and in contrast to adults, most children on bikes now do use helmets, mainly because the helmets look cool nowadays).
However, how many times have I been out biking with my own children, without them wearing a helmet? Too often for me to point my finger at Mary, that's for sure!

Anyway, as all parents know, once you have a child somehow, at some point, no matter what you do, that child will manage to hurt itself. That's life and it's the only way to teach them that some things are dangerous.
Agree.
We often see them with helmets, that i think it was just a case of either forgetting or the helmets being somewhere else.
http://resources2.news.com.au/images...5db1ff92dd.jpg
Here we see Frederik and Mary going back home and you can see the helmets inside the basket, (although they forgot the kids lol )
http://24.media.tumblr.com/9d969087a...dfco5_1280.jpg

Josephine has learned that horses are dangerous but I dont think that is a "danger" she is going to quit on

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Thanks Muhler! We've seen that Fred & Mary are cautious about helmets when going on a bike tour with the kids, they all wear helmets.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-Wdef8AZDeI...ess-Mary-1.jpg

I think the adults can decide for themselves anyway since there is no law to wear a helmet. In Germany most kids wear helmets but most adults of my generation, who never used them, still don't.

I work for a dutch company and my boss is dutch, they almost never wear helmets, children or adults, my boss told me a story from his vacation, he went to a camping area in Holland with lots of families & children and one day all children went on a bike tour and out of 42 children one boy wore a helmet and he was german
this reminded me of the picture of the Dutch royal couple with their kids
http://www.ski-epic.com/amsterdam_bi...on_bicycle.jpg


oh these "scandalous" Danes. You guys dont really give the press much to work with lol.
Although in other places, people were making a fuss because Mary was riding the bike with a leather skirt on
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Old 09-16-2015, 06:38 AM
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The new Her&Nu tells that Mary's father John Donaldson and Susan last week were in Denmark and enjoyed the week at home with Frederik, Mary and children. Here they among other things enjoyed to celebrate Mary's father's 74th birthday together

F&M had not many officiel events last week, so they may have had good time to enjoy the visit of John and Susan.
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Old 09-16-2015, 11:47 AM
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Sometimes I really wish someone would

Helmetgate continues in BT. Lots of hits... Rådet for Sikker Trafik: Vi hidser os ikke op over Marys manglende hjelm - Danmark | www.bt.dk

Now BT has asked the manger for Council for Safe Traffic, Mogens Kjærgaard Møller, for a comment: "I can't get worked up that you don't do it (wear a helmet). We live in a free country where it is up to the individual whether you want to use a bicycle helmet. But we recommend that all wear bicycle helmets - also the royals - because we know it has an effect (*)".

The Cyclist Association (whose members should be kept in a leash by a guide dog, because the majority tend to blind and deaf, when mounting their bikes!) has more to say, sort of: "If you stand on the street (**) and look at the millions of cyclists, some wear helmets, while others don't. In the Cyclist Association we recommend that you use a helmet, but we also think it's really good that you display a sustainable lifestyle, when you mount a bike.
We are against making it mandatory by law, because surveys show that if the helmet is made mandatory, then less will cycle".

BT even had a survey.

Should/ought Mary wear a helmet? - 44% say yes.
20 % say no.
36 % say that at least the children should wear helmets.

But it's a nice big pic of Mary, eh? http://www.bt.dk/sites/default/files...46667-mary.jpg

(*) Not necessarily. If a cyclist lands on his head, he is unlikely to suffer a brain-damage. Whereas if he lands on his behind... - Sorry, bad Muhler.

(**) You'd likely be run over by a foaming cyclist within five nanoseconds! - Sorry, couldn't resist.
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Old 09-16-2015, 12:44 PM
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The new Her&Nu tells that Mary's father John Donaldson and Susan last week were in Denmark and enjoyed the week at home with Frederik, Mary and children. Here they among other things enjoyed to celebrate Mary's father's 74th birthday together

F&M had not many officiel events last week, so they may have had good time to enjoy the visit of John and Susan.
that is nice to read. Im sure Mary, the kids and Frederik enjoy having JOhn and Susan around for a few days.
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Old 09-20-2015, 10:08 AM
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On Saturday, September 26th, is it Lidingöloppet outside Stockholm. Lidingöloppet is the last competition in "The Sweden Classics", that Crown Prince Frederik has taken part of all during this year.

We'll see if we get a confirmation of his participation later on?
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On Saturday, September 26th, is it Lidingöloppet outside Stockholm. Lidingöloppet is the last competition in "The Sweden Classics", that Crown Prince Frederik has taken part of all other parts during this year.

We'll see if we get a confirmation of his participation later on?
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Old 09-23-2015, 12:16 PM
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This lovely frontpage with Frederik and Mary can been seen on today's newspaper BT around Denmark.

A large interview with Crown Prince Frederik:
Mary gets Frederik to seek new ways - "Why she (Mary) makes me so happy and proud"
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Mary får Frederik til at søge nye veje: Derfor gør hun mig så glad og stolt - Special | www.bt.dk

BT has interviewed Frederik during his trip to Nepal and has put a small part of the interview online:

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Denmark's future King will spend more time there where the need is biggest. That tells the Crown Prince in a large interview with BT today who has been with and met Frederik in Nepal.

Both body and mind are tired after a hard field trip. Hours and hours on the seats in the old Red Cross four-wheel car. Mountain trekking in Nepal's humid heat. As well as lots of speeches, work and official presentations.

Yet, Crown Prince Frederik's eyes get extra glow and his voice renewed strength when the conversation turns to Crown Princess Mary, who is located more than 8,000 km from the simple office in Kathmandu, where BT meet the Crown Prince and who spend lots of time and effort to help them who need it. Both at home and abroad. Among other things as the patron of the Danish Refugee Council, United Nations Population Fund, and not least as the founder of the Mary Foundation.

"It makes me so happy and so proud to see how Mary pursues that track," said Crown Prince Frederik.

"I teach almost more of her than she does of me. She has a fulltime focus on it and is requested as a speaker and frontman far up in the UN system, so it's a pleasure. We help each other, and it's great and fun."

The Crown Prince Couple now have known each other for 16 years. They have four children, a copper wedding anniversary is approaching and they stand stronger than ever before.

"It's fantastic to see Mary doing things that are really exceptional. That was how she was even before we met each other I can remember. She is such a person who is aware of people and people's welfare - in particular those who need a helping hand," says Crown Prince Frederik to BT.

Proud father
Frederik and Mary's four children are now Christian on 9 years old, Isabella on 8 years old and the 4 years old Vincent and Josephine. During the trip Crown Prince Frederik often takes pictures with his iPhone. Pictures he shows to Mary and especially the children when he returnes home.

"The pictures will be used to tell about the trip to my family. But I must admit I'm not always so good to do more about all the pictures. They are usually seated in the phone where I also show them from."

Frederik explains that the children at home have difficulty to understand the natural disaster their father is out to experience with the Danish Red Cross.

"They can't really relate to it, because one can't really see an earthquake unlike other natural disasters. As for example tornadoes which our little ones and especially Vincent is very fascinated by at the moment. He has seen a tornado on TV and he draws tornadoes in the kindergarten. They think it's very exciting. Tornadoes moves, one can be sucked up in it and flung away, it looks veeeeery dangerous," says Frederik with a father's pride in his voice.

"I'm not going to tell I've been near a tornado, but when I have to explain to them what happened I will in a pedagogical way say that it's as dangerous as a tornado."

Brings local toys home to the children
Crown Prince Frederik says with a smile that he usually buys "boring" gifts to take home to her children. In the sense that they rarely come from the toy stores most appealing shelves.

"It is to present the world for my children. If they could choose they would probably choose a remote-controlled toy car. But you can get that one anywhere. Instead I come home with something that gives my children a good idea of where I have been and what culture I have experienced. For example a mask, a puppet or a local board game."

It's a tradition Frederik carry on from his father, Prince Henrik.

"He came home with lots of things that he himself had received in the villages he visited. Wooden figures, cars made of steel wire and other things that we children at home thought was exciting."

As 81 years old is Prince Henrik now no longer is able to take as active a part in the field work with the Danish Red Cross. And it was Prince Henrik who wished that it was Frederik who took over from him.

Frederik is now "kommiceret" a sort of ambassador for the Danish Red Cross.

"My father wished that I continued the work. There is a tradition in our family to be active in the Danish Red Cross," says Frederik.

"I'm the younger now and my father the older, he would like to still show a little, but he can no longer be as active as before."

Invaluable experience
Crown Prince Frederik calls his working trip invaluable.

"You can always communicate a little better about for example Red Cross' work when you have been out and try it on your own body. It's an invaluable experience I can take with me in my backpack from here."

"This is not a one-time trip. There will be other opportunities for me in the future and I'm looking very much forward to them."

BT's journalist observes that it is obvious that Crown Prince Frederik is in his right element when he visits the other end. Where he can meet those who need help. Try on his own body to carrying the heavy materials up in the mountains just like the Nepalese themselves.
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Old 09-23-2015, 12:51 PM
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thank you so much Roskilde

What a wonderful interview.
the way he talks about Mary, acknowledging she has more experience in this since this has been one of her focus...You can tell he is very proud of her.

Love that he takes pictures to explain to his kids and that he gets local toys that you cant buy just anywhere else.

Wonderful that he is shifting to take this role from Henrik and will do more of these in the future...Just like in Japan after the Tsunami, he has done so well in Nepal to connect with the people and bring attention to the crisis and the Danish Red Cross
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My pleasure

A good little interview.

Also Billedbladet out tomorrow has a interview with Frederik (probably part of it is the same as BT's)

I guess Muhler maybe will tell us about BB's interview the coming days.

BB's cover:
http://www.billedbladet.dk/sites/bil...?itok=_FFxGOZr
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Many Thanks Roskilde for taking the time to translate all of that for us. It is much appreciated. Cheers
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You are welcome Tarlita

TV2 news covers the interviews on their Facebook page as well as this article focusing on what Frederiks takes home to the children from his trip:

Kronprins Frederik afslører: Det tager jeg med hjem til mine børn | Underholdning
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BB has uploaded a sneak preview article on the website with more of the interview with Frederik - and with a cute little detail from Frederik to his wife

http://www.billedbladet.dk/kongelige...prinsesse-mary

At some point during the trip Frederik received a kind of a love diploma.

When he received the special honor and the visible signs of warm feelings from the Nepalese hosts a smiling Frederik was quick with a comment:

- "This one my wife should have".

Frederik also told in the interviews that he is looking forward to getting home to his family at Amalienborg to tell especially the children about his experiences far away from the safe environment in Denmark.

- "When I get home I will tell my children how lucky they are. It's good to appreciate that you have it well under our sky."

Frederik also tells more about the trip and about being close to the 50 years. (Maybe Muhler tells more about the interview in BB the the coming days )
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how very cute.
maybe it was this one?
http://i.imgur.com/k7kFiDA.jpg

And wow 50 already? He def. looks very good . like fine wine
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BB has posted this picture related to their interview article:
http://www.billedbladet.dk/sites/bil...?itok=ZQL774_n

It's nice. Looks can really tell it all.
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On Saturday, September 26th, is it Lidingöloppet outside Stockholm. Lidingöloppet is the last competition in "The Sweden Classics", that Crown Prince Frederik has taken part of all during this year.

We'll see if we get a confirmation of his participation later on?
It is now on the calendar
H.K.H. Kronprinsen deltager i Lidingö løbet - Kongehuset
HRH Crown Prince participates in Lidingö race in Stockholm, Sweden.

and if he completes this he will have the Swedish Classic.
"It is called the combination of four major races in Sweden, Vasaloppet, Vätternrundan, Vansbroimningen and Lidingöloppet, Completed within 12 months

Vasaloppet -March 2015
http://www.cna.org.cy/imageweb.asp?i...1a960189f6d6f5
Vätternrundan -June 2015
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hp...78963986_n.jpg
Vansbroimningen -July 2015
http://images.mmcloud.se/api/v1/imag...85434da30c088c
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Sometimes I really wish someone would

Helmetgate continues in BT. Lots of hits... Rådet for Sikker Trafik: Vi hidser os ikke op over Marys manglende hjelm - Danmark | www.bt.dk

Now BT has asked the manger for Council for Safe Traffic, Mogens Kjærgaard Møller, for a comment: "I can't get worked up that you don't do it (wear a helmet). We live in a free country where it is up to the individual whether you want to use a bicycle helmet. But we recommend that all wear bicycle helmets - also the royals - because we know it has an effect (*)".

The Cyclist Association (whose members should be kept in a leash by a guide dog, because the majority tend to blind and deaf, when mounting their bikes!) has more to say, sort of: "If you stand on the street (**) and look at the millions of cyclists, some wear helmets, while others don't. In the Cyclist Association we recommend that you use a helmet, but we also think it's really good that you display a sustainable lifestyle, when you mount a bike.
We are against making it mandatory by law, because surveys show that if the helmet is made mandatory, then less will cycle".

BT even had a survey.

Should/ought Mary wear a helmet? - 44% say yes.
20 % say no.
36 % say that at least the children should wear helmets.

But it's a nice big pic of Mary, eh? http://www.bt.dk/sites/default/files...46667-mary.jpg

(*) Not necessarily. If a cyclist lands on his head, he is unlikely to suffer a brain-damage. Whereas if he lands on his behind... - Sorry, bad Muhler.

(**) You'd likely be run over by a foaming cyclist within five nanoseconds! - Sorry, couldn't resist.
Muhler, I don't know what cyclists are like where you live in Denmark, but when I was biking in Copenhagen this summer I was AMAZED at how polite the cyclists were They stopped at stoplights, they indicated left or right turns and were extremely helpful to this tourist who often lost her way in the maze of Copenhagen streets! Do please know how lucky you are in Denmark with such cyclists; things in Amsterdam, where I also cycle, are like the wild West in comparison Regarding the helmet issue, I do wear one in Toronto but only because the drivers are so very preoccupied with their own lives and cellphones, often forgetting to watch where they are going
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