General News about Frederik, Mary and Family 9: May - December 2011

[Muhler]

According to Billed Bladet Christian and Bella arrived in Australia last weekend, around the time Frederik left for VIetnam.
So they must have flown with a nanny.

I was wondering if anyone knows how Christian and Isabella got to
Australia. One article said Frederick picked them up on his way back
from Vietnam. If that was so, Christian could not have travelled with
his father (heir and spare together is not allowed).

This would also have meant that Mary and the twins were by themselves those fews days while
Frederick was in Vietnam.

 

[grevinnan]

And indeed it is. Of that there is no doubt.



Those assigned for their protection from Denmark are employed to do so and those here in Australia who are assigned to whatever task deemed necessary by our internal law and order agencies are themselves doing what they are payed to do.

The impact of Mary and Frederik spending time here in Australia does not so much as induce the tiniest of ripples. Only here on these f orums are you likely to stumble across such considered thought.

There has been a lengthy discussion here about the security provided by the australian police. If your presence requires such protection while you are on a private vacation than make your visit short.

 

[American Dane]

There has been a lengthy discussion here about the security provided by the australian police. If your presence requires such protection while you are on a private vacation than make your visit short.

Here as in the forums or where you live?? Nowhere in the Australian press (TV, papers, etc.) has there been any concern over the protection given to the family. Even those programs that would normally jump on this, haven't ::cough::A Current Affair/Today Tonight::cough:: In fact most probably haven't even noticed.

I think your post is a bit unfair. Why should Mary have to limit her visit to friends and family halfway around the world simply because she is well-known and well-liked in Australia and which may result in unwanted attention?

As mentioned before this protection is no different nor no more than what is received by any other foreign dignitary in Australia, the UK, France, the US, etc. If this is what the Australian government feels is necessary for F+M than I am more than fine with my Australian tax dollars going towards it.

 

[Madame Royale]

There has been a lengthy discussion here about the security provided by the australian police. If your presence requires such protection while you are on a private vacation than make your visit short.

There has been a lengthy discussion about Australian protection disucussed by those from far and wide on this forum, infact, it appears to be an issue for those who don't hold, so I'd endeavour to suggest, an Australian passport. Thus I'm intrigued as to why the issue should persist like a thorn in their foot. It's rather bemusing really.

And let 'us' not overplay the role of the provided protection in terms of size. I myself find it particularly amusing that people should, through their indignation, make out as though there is a task force the size of a small army that has been commissioned to watch over Mary and her family.

And well, thankfully the Australian economy is in a considerably strong position in comparison to other global markets at the current time so by all means, fear not for the "burden" on the public purse should that be of concern for it can weather such a "strain" on resources as this. Though it is awfully kind of our global neighbours to care so much about what is considered here to be, such a non issue.

 

[Erica Lauren]

Just think of all the money that the US spends on dignitaries who come to New York for the UN? Every country helps other nations out when there leaders/dignitaries come for whatever reason. There are a lot of people who would cause harm just for attention or another reason, no nation would want that on their plate. Nations do it for celebrities too. Australia is no different.

 

[Muhler]

Well, the discussion seems to reached the end of the line, where it is no longer progressing.

The Danish members of this forum seems to have no problems with the issue of M&F being on vacation in Australia, nor is it an issue in the Danish press.
And I see that none of the Australian members appears to have any problems with that either, nor is it an issue in the Australian press as I understand it.

I realise now from reading EIIR and Grevinnan's posts that your point is more general and not directed at M&F. - That of course makes sense as those who have raised the issue is neither from Australia nor from Denmark.
Your point about about taxpayers funding the safety of royals while on vacation is of course valid.
But perhaps it is better to move this discussion to a more general area of this forum, where this issue can be discussed by members from more countries?

There is little point in digging deeper trenches in this thread and getting nowhere, wouldn't you say?
I believe this discussion would be more lively in a general area of the TRF.

 

[Kataryn]

There has been a lengthy discussion here about the security provided by the australian police. If your presence requires such protection while you are on a private vacation than make your visit short.

These security people are there anyway - they are employed and trained for exactly that job, so it really doesn't matter who it is they are allocated to protect. Or do we need the discussion whose security is more important? That should be one for the person in charge of the security management.

 

[Lady Rosie]

Here is a link to an article about F's visit to a cricket match and C&I's play at a local park.

Fred's having a ball Tasmania News - The Mercury - The Voice of Tasmania

 

[Roskilde]

Here is a link to an article about F's visit to a cricket match and C&I's play at a local park.

Fred's having a ball Tasmania News - The Mercury - The Voice of Tasmania

Thanks for this article and pic.

I have to say that every time, I see Isabella, I smile. She always has the cutest smile on her little lips. She always looks like such a happy, harmonious and fresh little girl.

 

[nwinther]

I have no issue with providing protection to foreign dignitaries, when they are on official business. When they just fancy a warm mid-winter break, I think it's asking too much to expect other countries to pay to protect them.

That doesn't make any sense. If I'm in australia on vacation, and I feel threatened by someone or have my wallet stolen - will I be able (in your opinion) to contact the Australian police without having to pay for their services?

No matter who you are, if you are legally in a country, that country has an obligation to care for your safety within the country's legislation. If you're there on official business, like M+F were, it's likey to be heavier security than when they're there "unofficially".

Now, it's Tasmanian legislation that makes VIP's get some sort of special treatment. You'll have to take your beef up with the Tasmanian authorities - not the CP couple, nor the Danish tax payers.

If a person is seen to be too much of a burden on a nations security ressources, then the country is free to deny a visa.

Re. diplomats (under which the CP couple fall) there are international agreements that obliges the Australian taxpayer. Guess they'll just have to suck it up.

My advise to you - write a letter to your local MP.

 

[Muhler]

Agree, nwinther.

This topic has turned political and general and as such I don't find it relevant in this thread.

Can we move on, please?

 

[wombat]

YES, let's get back to what's most important : What are F&M doing?
Well, not much:
Royal Princess of low profile Tasmania News - The Mercury - The Voice of Tasmania

 

[AnnaNotherThing]

Love that pic of Mary driving the VW van...that is the exact car WE have (and we have FOUR kids too)...so now I know our car is fit for a princess

 

[Trinity]

I don’t know why anyone is worried about the cost to us taxpayers as far as I can see the cost would be negligible on this trip. Apart form the official part of the trip when our PM and GG were also in attendance and security in the extreme was required with or without Mary.
The private part of the trip has been just that “PRIVATE” apart from the local police doing a few laps around Mary’s sisters homes nothing has been required from our local police. Maybe when they leave to go to the airport a police escort might be required and that will only take about 30 minutes of their time. You only have to look at Mary’ shopping expedition today to see that the Danish security are with Mary and her sisters, no local police within cooee of them. That's how it should be in the future, Mary and Frederick will be able to have a quite private holiday with their Australian family and the Danish security will look after them.

So yes lets get back to what they are doing

http://au.news.yahoo.com/...al/watch/27559370/248154/

 

[madrid]

I wonder if Mary doesn't miss her old life when she lived in Australia.

 

[Muhler]

I wonder if Mary doesn't miss her old life when she lived in Australia.

Probably, I guess.
When she's feeling homesick or just wish to be anonymous again.

As for being anonymous that, I think, is becoming ever less important to her. There are so many opportunities for her to vanish in the crowd, just an hours flight away, or a few hours by car, that it doesn't matter so much. (She can be in Hamburg in four or five hours and once the Femern Belt bridge is there, she can be in Berlin in four hours).
The same thing with being alone. For the rest of her life she'll never be alone when she leaves her home, but then having a couple of anonymous gentlemen nearby also means safety. Whatever happens, there will always be someone there to help.
No more dark and lonely parking lots, no more walking home alone at night.

 

[Madame Royale]

It would only be natural that Mary should miss her homeland. There would be nothing more familiar than the country of her birth and that will undoubtedly remain with her for the rest of her life.

I notice that she appears more relxed when back in Australia and that is something I find quite natural. Perhaps she feels in part like she did before she married, back amongst family, friends and people she 'understands' and shares alot in common with in regards to character and values. Not only that, but taking a walk through the Australian bush or strolling along the beach at Wineglass Bay would I'm sure bring her much comfort. Surrounding herself with a landscape that is most familiar is important for any indavidual.

We musn't forget that Mary's identity as an indavidual was forged here, thus in the most organic of ways represents, however innately, who she is a woman, wife, mother, daughter, sister and Crown Princess.

All that said, her life has taken a much different course than what she no doubt would have ever anticipated for herself. And with this life, comes the security of ones safety, no financial concerns and one of the most privileged positions that can be held in modern day society. That comes with the territory as Mary now 'belongs', for all intents and purposes, to the Kingdom of Denmark and to the institution in which she married into.

 

[camelot23ca]

I wonder if Mary doesn't miss her old life when she lived in Australia.

I imagine she does. So much attention is focused on how "lucky" Mary has been in marrying Frederik and becoming a princess, but let's face it, in order to do so she gave up a lot. Mary seems happy with her life in Denmark but I can see her being a bit wistful about the road not taken when she goes to Australia and sees first hand the lives her upper middle class/wealthy Australian friends are leading - lives that are very similar to what Mary might have had if she hadn't met Frederik.

 

[Muhler]

Mary og hendes søster som to dråber vand - Royale - BT.dk
As there are few news coming from Australia, BT has an article about how much Mary and her sister, Patricia, look alike.
There is even a guess who quizz.
If you think Mary is the one to the right, choose the top option.
If you believe, she's the one to the left, choose the lower option. - Most got it right...

The article also mentions that the Australian press is somewhat displeased with Mary and her family not being seen so much in public. - A touch of don't-you-dare-critizise-our-Crown-Princess perhaps....

 

[Tarlita]

I imagine the only really private time the couple with the family have is at Trend hunting lodge in Denmark. No cameras lurking in the forest there.

 

[Erica Lauren]

I am one year younger than Mary. I like her because I can relate to her in many, many ways. The only major difference is she married a real prince. I think the older you get, the more you accept that life changes. Sometimes you get what you want, sometimes you don't. Sometimes you get things you never thought about in your wildest dreams (good and bad). I am sure Mary misses her family and friends. But honestly, I'm sure when she is in Australia she misses Denmark too. She was a mature, educated, well traveled woman when she married Fred. Everyone misses parts of their past, but very few want to go back to relive them. Past if often viewed in rose colored ways leads to nostalgia. But I don't think Mary is that way. She has her own family now. Her own life and she takes it with all the good and the bad.

 

[Patra]

I think that most royals enjoy "down" time away from the regular expectations of their stations. And, when its time to get back into the public eye, I'm sure they relish that as well. It's all about balance, I presume...

 

[iceflower]

A nice little gallery of the shopping trip today:


Crown Princess Mary and her sisters Jane and Patricia shopping at Salamanca Market, December 12, 2011.


** Pic ** zimbio gallery **

 

[Marika86]

A nice little gallery of the shopping trip today:


Crown Princess Mary and her sisters Jane and Patricia shopping at Salamanca Market, December 12, 2011.


** Pic ** zimbio gallery **

I'm glad to see Mary spending time with her sisters
Can I say that I'm jealous because where Mary is, the summer is coming?

 

[Lady Rosie]

Pleasure, Roskilde. Lovely to see Mary enjoying her holiday with her family before Christmas.

 

[CrownPrincessJava]

The article also mentions that the Australian press is somewhat displeased with Mary and her family not being seen so much in public. - A touch of don't-you-dare-critizise-our-Crown-Princess perhaps....

I think it's the Australian media just commenting on her lack of public appearances whilst in Tasmania - it's not displeasure as just an observation.

Ask any Australian off the street and 99.9% of us would say that we want the media to leave them alone. Australian actually don't like our celebrities, or royals, being annoyed at home. When Kylie Minogue came back to Australia to receive treatment for breast cancer and there was a huge media presence outside her Australian mansion, a few locals decided to attack the journalists. Same with Nicole Kidman - if she is hounded, the Australian population will make sure they show the journalists what we think of their invasion of privacy.

Many overseas celebrities love it here in Oz because we leave them alone to get on with their business. P!nk is a classic example - she's been down Rundle St (In Adelaide) several times and she commented how only 2 people ever asked for her autograph.

Michael Jackson, Madonna and a few others have said the same thing - we just let them be.

I'm glad to see Mary spending time with her sisters
Can I say that I'm jealous because where Mary is, the summer is coming?

It's actually quite cool here in the southern part of Australia Most places have their temperature no greater than 20 degrees celsius But things will change in a few weeks...

 

[AnnaNotherThing]

Many overseas celebrities love it here in Oz because we leave them alone to get on with their business. P!nk is a classic example - she's been down Rundle St (In Adelaide) several times and she commented how only 2 people ever asked for her autograph.

Michael Jackson, Madonna and a few others have said the same thing - we just let them be....

I think for the most celebs get left alone in Australia because of several reasons...one is most Aussies don't put celebs on pedestals so we don't go fawning all over them...two is most people the rest of the world consider celebs, most Australians have never even heard of and lastly Australians are the great levellers, which inevitable means no matter who you are, you will get treated the same as everyone else, no special treatment, etc...

 

[CrownPrincessJava]

I think for the most celebs get left alone in Australia because of several reasons...one is most Aussies don't put celebs on pedestals so we don't go fawning all over them...two is most people the rest of the world consider celebs, most Australians have never even heard of and lastly Australians are the great levellers, which inevitable means no matter who you are, you will get treated the same as everyone else, no special treatment, etc...

Completely agree. It's probably why Mary lets her guard down so much when she's here. She knows people will leave her, and her family, alone (most of the time).

 

[Lady Rosie]

Here is a small article about M&F visiting an art museum.
Mary checks out MONA Today's News - The Mercury - The Voice of Tasmania
No photos.

 

[Madame Royale]

I'd imagine the Crown Princely family will be returning to Denmark in the coming days, if not having already departed.

One hopes they enjoyed their time spent in Australia and have a safe passage home to a festively chilled Denmark. It's always nice to go home to one's own bed and surroundings.