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Old 04-13-2011, 03:07 PM
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I agree Duke of Marmalade I think Frederick would be hard work and she does a fabulous job. He is as I have often said extremely fortunate to have met her and as you say she is disciplined and sees this as her job a smart operator bright girl. IMO
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Old 04-13-2011, 04:20 PM
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It's disappointing that the media jumped all over this with such relish prior to getting all the facts. Not surprising, though..
I'm not sure who broke the story, but rest assured that the republican minded media are jumping at this opportunity!

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What's also disappointing to me, though, is that Frederik would put himself and his wife in this position. I won't get into whether it's appropriate for a 42 year old father of four to be out drinking in a club until early morning - IMO, that's a personal issue for M and F to figure out in terms of what's ok in their relationship. If Mary's not bothered by it then it's not an issue. .
I agree -more or less - but I'm not sure if we know the whole story and context! IMO the problem with many young/younger royals is that they're basically spoiled brats and that their wish is everyone's command. I never thought for one minute that you can compare a royal marriage with a conventional bourgeois marriage!

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The issue here to me is that surely by now Frederik's aware that how things look can cause at least as much trouble as how things actually are. I don't think for one second Frederik would ever do anything inappropriate with another woman - he still clearly adores his wife and, frankly, I'm sure he's aware of just how much he'd stand to lose by going down that road. But that doesn't change the fact that it's the day before his twins' christening and people are now talking about him being drunk at a bar with a blonde at 3 in the morning.
Have to agree on this one too!

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Old 04-13-2011, 04:44 PM
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Has it been absolutely confirmed that the guy on the video is Frederik? After seeing the video I cannot confirm it was him. Could've been anyone about the same age. They try to clarify it was Fred with the still images but in them the guy, whoever he is, looks even less like the Crown Prince.

Even if it was him, I didn't see anything particularly indecent. If it was him and the woman (like it has been said) was a close friend of the Crown Prince couple, she might have just been taking care of him and he was goofing around. We don't know the whole story or even if it was him.

Whatever the situation, I find it annoying that this sort of story is being dragged out just before the christening. Someone must really carry a grudge towards the Crown Prince for something. First the Facebook thing and now this... I hope this incident won't ruin tomorrow's occasion.
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Old 04-13-2011, 04:45 PM
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Fred has been very supportive since the twins were born and looking after the older ones etc. Perhaps Mary hinted he needed a good night out with the lads after the football.
And that is what he did. Had a good time with a little too much to drink IF we believe the reports. Maybe it wasn't even him. But I imagine even an intoxicated Fred wouldn't be dumb enough or crass enough to make a pass at a woman in a public place. I for one don't see anything wrong with a little light flirtation. I am sure whatever the truth is, Fred and Mary have nothing to fear within there marriage.
As far as growing up goes i have never seen an adult intoxicated male behave in a grown up fashion yet.
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:01 PM
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Fred has been very supportive since the twins were born and looking after the older ones etc. Perhaps Mary hinted he needed a good night out with the lads after the football.
And that is what he did. Had a good time with a little too much to drink IF we believe the reports. Maybe it wasn't even him. But I imagine even an intoxicated Fred wouldn't be dumb enough or crass enough to make a pass at a woman in a public place. I for one don't see anything wrong with a little light flirtation. I am sure whatever the truth is, Fred and Mary have nothing to fear within there marriage.
As far as growing up goes i have never seen an adult intoxicated male behave in a grown up fashion yet.
No perhaps he won't make a pass at her but what about her making a pass at him? I don't agree that they have nothing to fear...we don't know the type of person Fred is. This is not the first time something like this has come up so yes I'd say they have a lot to fear. It is possible to not put yourself in this sort of position.

IMO it seems like Fred is searching for something...I'm not sure he's happy with his life. I know he loves his family but he comes off to me as a sad person. He's like a ship that's sailing without direction.
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:10 PM
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i am inclined to believe nothing happened between frederk and the blonde, but he is not making a good impression here...
of course it is just a superficial judgment, but seeing this video many people would think he is behaving in a silly, teenage like way while he has four children at home. not good, event if it happens to everybody from time to time it is just taht none of us is the cp of denmark, so it makes no scandal...
anyway, after the fb leak, this is the second time sombody sells frederik to the media, so he'd better watch out!
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:31 PM
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Fred has been very supportive since the twins were born and looking after the older ones etc. Perhaps Mary hinted he needed a good night out with the lads after the football.
My point exactly
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:30 PM
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Way to go, Freddy, with four kids and a high maintenance wife, you need to let off some steam !!

One wonders, however, what the supposedly "media-savvy" Princess Mary thinks of it all....?
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:16 PM
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Surely a guy can go out and let off some steam by having a drink with friends and dance with a mates wife/girlfriend whatever. [He is hardly going to want to dance with his mate - now is he.] Purely SPECULATION on everyones part as we can not know for sure if the man in the video is even Fred. But that won't stop the gossip sheets from making a big deal of it. Mary is smarter than to allow a scandal sheet upset her.
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:55 PM
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Whether there is any truth to Frederik and a blond woman is perhaps not as relevant as to why a married man with two infants, a toddler and young child at home is out partying at 3.30am.
Very good point, different life and ethics from where I stand.
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:02 PM
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No perhaps he won't make a pass at her but what about her making a pass at him? I don't agree that they have nothing to fear...we don't know the type of person Fred is. This is not the first time something like this has come up so yes I'd say they have a lot to fear. It is possible to not put yourself in this sort of position.

IMO it seems like Fred is searching for something...I'm not sure he's happy with his life. I know he loves his family but he comes off to me as a sad person. He's like a ship that's sailing without direction.
I completely agree with your posts. IMHO CP Frederik is Europe's reluctant heir to the throne. I believe that at some time all of his peers from the PoW to the HGD Guillame have had doubts about their future roles, but they have chosen to accept the challenges and responsibilities of their lives. Right now this behavior is in sharp contrast to the other heirs to the throne who have been or are currently on official or state visits. Now they also go on vacation or spend time with friends, but this isn't the first time CP Frederik has been reported partying into the late hours.

I hope that he finds what he is looking for soon. His nation and his family deserve better from him IMHO.
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:18 PM
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has it been confirmed it is him?
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:29 PM
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No confirmation is needed. The man in the footage is clearly Frederik. I don't understand how people can't tell it's him...

In any case, it hasn't taken very long for the Aussie media to run with the story. It's already made coverage on our morning news and is now online.

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Prince Frederik filmed dancing with blonde
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Old 04-13-2011, 09:35 PM
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IMO the problem with many young/younger royals is that they're basically spoiled brats and that their wish is everyone's command. I never thought for one minute that you can compare a royal marriage with a conventional bourgeois marriage!
I've never considered Frederik bratty - that's not the vibe I get from him - but I think when that generation of royalty is considered you get a group of people that on the one hand has been allowed to participate extensively in a day to day normal life but on the other hand has always had the protective buffer of extreme privilege. So you wind up with someone who takes it as his due that he should be able to go out to a club and act a bit like an arse after drinking too much just like everyone else does... but who may not have very many people in his life who will come right out and tell him if they think he did something stupid.

However, I don't think Mary would hesitate to tell him if she thought he'd done something stupid and I get the impression from things Frederik himself has said that he deeply values her good opinion. The bad part about a story like this, I think, is that it impacts Frederik's family just as much as it does him so if Mary IS upset I hope she does tell him, in no uncertain terms.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:20 PM
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I think this has been blown way out of proportion and I refuse to believe there was any ill will intended on Frederick's behalf.

In other news, I am very happy to see four of the family preparing for the christening.
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Old 04-13-2011, 10:26 PM
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I still think it is a storm in a tea cup or should that be whiskey cup. None of us know the circumstances here and yet the mags have proclaimed the worst. The blonde looks suspiciously like Caroline Brockdorff. Doesn't matter if she isn't, surely he can have a drink with friends. The dancing clearly isn't serious as they both have glasses in their hands. Nothing to agonise over I'm sure. Mary has always been okay with Fred having a night out before as we've seen in the past. It doesn't happen often and once in a while is surely okay. Just that in his position it always gets reported.
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Old 04-13-2011, 11:20 PM
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You either trust your spouse or you don't. There is no in between. They both go out without each other at times. Do we know if Mary's brother was with him? They have tons of friends. It could be anyone known to both of them. I am not going to make a mountain out of an anthill.

My hubby goes out every Wednesday night for Boy's Night Out. I have no problem with it at all. He needs time away from me just as I need time away from him. Just to bad he was caught.
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Frederik is the crownprince of Denmark. He is only a breath away from being the King. He certainly has every right to live his life a he pleases but the people of Denmark also has the right to know who this next regent is. If Frederik was concerned about his reputation or image he simply has to do what we all do. Behave in a way that reflects who you are and who you want people to assume you are. This is simply life. Frederik is out partying and there is not much to say about it. He is charge of his life and his image and reputation.
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Old 04-13-2011, 11:58 PM
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Here's a short video of the family arriving to check out the church. Isabella looks none too happy. Frederik og Mary til generalprve - TV 2 Nyhederne
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Here's a short video of the family arriving to check out the church. Isabella looks none too happy. Frederik og Mary til generalprve - TV 2 Nyhederne
Poor girl she really does look unhappy. I wonder if she needed a nap?
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