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I'd actually be inclined to be somewhat dissapointed with the hosts, myself. Inviting the Crown Princess and Mrs. Zobel? They can now shoot off to the US and leave the media pot to stew in their wake. Quite poor on their behalf, imo.

And don't get me wrong, Mary is an adult and makes her own decisions, but wouldn't 'a friend' be mindful of the possible consequences involved, and as the host, would want to avoid any ill press for the Crown Princess, and indeed, the DRF? That would be my idea of a friend, anyway...

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which is about as non commital and self evident a statement as you can get - it's like saying water is wet
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Old 03-15-2010, 03:17 AM
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There is only one quote in the above article that comes from anyone officially associated with the Danish Royal Family, and it in no way suggests that the Queen is upset with Crown Princess Mary. It is a very general statement saying that of course the DRF need to be careful who they associate with, which is about as non commital and self evident a statement as you can get - it's like saying water is wet. The part about Queen Margrethe being furious comes from an editor at Se og Hor magazine, which hardly has a history of accuracy in its reporting on the royal family.
I agree camelot. And this is the usual way the tabloids handles a potential juicy story about royals; they press for an official statement but of course only get a general, non-commital answer and this anwer is then used more or less at the media's own discretion.
I have not seen any official press release from the court regarding this dinner. And I wager we will never hear that queen Margrethe have publicly berated any member of her own family. If she did that she herself would undermine the public respect for her family and she would cause a lot of damage internally in her family.

Besides, the queen know from personal experience that having friends who suddenly find themselves the subject of police investigations is a delicate subject for royals. Many years ago, a good friend of the queen and prince Henrik, Jan Bonde Nielsen, was the subject of extensive investigation by the police and the financial squad. There was lots of media coverage about Bonde Nielsen's friendship with the royal family and there were immediate cries that the queen stop any contact. The contact did cease, not least because Bonde Nielsen moved out of the country; but it is a thin line for the royals. If they cut all ties immediately, for example during preliminary investigation, they would undoubtedly face a lot of criticism as well - for not standing by their friends, for actively working against their friends by cutting ties, etc.
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Old 03-16-2010, 05:00 PM
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Perhaps it was bad judgment on Mary's part to attend a dinner with this Rigmor Zobel -- if in fact Mary knew she'd be there at all -- HOWEVER, I think it is even worse that it get so much media attention. As far as I can tell, CP Mary has never put a foot wrong in public and has represented Denmark beautifully for years now, in every respect. I think she deserves a pass on this one, especially from ill-mannered reporters trying to upstage a a nice event.
I think Crown Princess Mary was brave in attending a dinner with Rigmor Zobel. I read that this person is a friend of her husband who was away when this dinner happen. I don't know all the details about this person and I don't know whether to belief that the Queen told Mary that she was wrong. I do know that the press has blow it out of proportion and I feel sorry for Crown Princess. But on a good note-her husband stood up to the press for her.
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Old 03-18-2010, 03:21 PM
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It has been a really slow year for Mary's Public Appearances.
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Old 03-18-2010, 03:54 PM
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Does anyone actually believe that these media has any knowledge whatsoever of what queen Margrethe says behind closed doors?
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I wonder (1)whether or not the story has got any credible proof or (2)there are any photos of Crown Princess Mary and Ms. Rigmor Zboel having a lunch together; and (3) why Crown Princess Mary would associate with the person convicted on drug charges.
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Old 03-18-2010, 05:30 PM
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I wonder (1)whether or not the story has got any credible proof or (2)there are any photos of Crown Princess Mary and Ms. Rigmor Zboel having a lunch together; and (3) why Crown Princess Mary would associate with the person convicted on drug charges.
Unfortunately there are.

There is a particular internet source that reports CP Mary recently had dinner with this individual. It seems pretty legit because the report has several pictures of them eating dinner together with some other unidentified person.
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Well ... I find Crown Princess Mary's recent action perplexing. She better than anyone else knows how ubiquitous the mass media is.
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Unfortunately there are.

There is a particular internet source that reports CP Mary recently had dinner with this individual. It seems pretty legit because the report has several pictures of them eating dinner together with some other unidentified person.
They were in a large group, and the picture that was shown in the papers appears to have "pasted" their photos to show them sitting closer than they actually were. I'm not saying Mary wasn't there. She was. But I believe the papers are making this out to be something that it wasn't. It wasn't just Mary having dinner with this woman.
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It has been a really slow year for Mary's Public Appearances.
Yes, I always wonder what she is actually doing in the 2 weeks there is no public apperance...does not exactly make for a "hard working royal"?
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The fact that she has no public events does not mean she doesn't work!
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Yes, I always wonder what she is actually doing in the 2 weeks there is no public apperance...does not exactly make for a "hard working royal"?
Perhaps she is at home being a really good mum....you know the one's who stay at home...cook for their children, take their children to school, watch children's tv, take their children for walks, play with their children...... that's an interesting concept.
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Yes, I always wonder what she is actually doing in the 2 weeks there is no public apperance...does not exactly make for a "hard working royal"?
So by that ideology, only when Mary's in public is she actually working?

I don't think so...

Patroness to 24 or so patronages, as well as meetings within not only the Crown Princely court, but also Her Majesty's court; and not forgetting the various officials and representatives that come calling.
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So by that ideology, only when Mary's in public is she actually working?

I don't think so...

Patroness to 24 or so patronages, as well as meetings within not only the Crown Princely court, but also Her Majesty's court; and not forgetting the various officials and representatives that come calling.
Where is the actual evidence that all this 'behind the scene' work takes place? I know I've seen it mentioned before, but don't actually know where the source of this knowledge stems from...
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I don't think any royals today, Danish or other nationalities, undertake engagements without doing their homework thoroughly beforehand. Right now, you can see a Danish series that takes places behind the scenes - of the logistics and preliminary work leading up to all sorts of royal engagements.
It really is not that hard to imagine that this is the case. I'm more surprised that you would think that it does not take place??
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Old 03-24-2010, 08:33 AM
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Where is the actual evidence that all this 'behind the scene' work takes place? I know I've seen it mentioned before, but don't actually know where the source of this knowledge stems from...
In part, it's common sense.

To believe that only when Mary is seen is Mary actually working seems an entirely misinformed judgement. The current documentary about the Danish royals itself has shown Mary attending various meetings with the Queen and heir apparent in the company of various council. But a moment in time caught in the official life of the Crown Princess.

It is an entirely logical expectation that behind palatial doors, Mary undertakes further responsibilities than just those that are seen when she steps into a public forum. To think otherwise, cannot be anything other than naive. Though that's my opinion and I speak only for myself.
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wombat why don't you write and ask when in doubt about anything that is what I do and if you find out let us know am not being clever and it is an honest suggestion.
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Where is the actual evidence that all this 'behind the scene' work takes place? I know I've seen it mentioned before, but don't actually know where the source of this knowledge stems from...
Like Madame Royale said.

It's common sense to think that Mary is working when she hasn't got engagements.
Planning other events, looking after her children, planning possible foreign tours. In the new documentary about the DRF you see her working. She doesn't just turn up at places and say "Hi. I'm here, lets do something". Events have to be planned.

You don't see her out shopping in this time off do you? You don't see her out partying every night?
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the best part that i like about her doing is behind the scene, it is planning what clothes she will use for this event or the other, shoes, jewellery , tiara etc.....of course she works behind the scene, all take a lot of preperation in her life and eventhoguht she has a lot of help she probably like to do some things for herself! and she probably hsa to take time to memorize speeches, etc,etc........
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