General news about Frederik, Mary and Family 2: February - August 2008

[antonieta]

Can someone translate these tittles please?
"Marys veninde: smidt ud fra fest", from www.seoghoer.dk;
and
"Marys brudepige skandalost beruse" ,
"Mary slar verdensstjener" both from www.bt.dk

Thanks in advance.

[Hedvig]

Mary's friend thrown out of a party.
Mary's bridesmaid scandallously drunk.
Mary beats world famous stars.

[sgl]

Originally Posted by Villemann

I have seen this poll and I am very chuffed. Even Billed-Bladet, the most loyal of royal magazines, has now caught on to the fact that we need to discuss our monarchy! Yuippieee! Disturbingly for Frederik more than 60 percent - the last time I looked - think Margrethe should stay on to modernize the monarchy instead of leaving the reigns to Frederik.

I am not surprised. I have seen these types of polls in various publications for other royal families. Even in the United States, where we don't have a monarchy, we constantly have polls where people are asked to rate our leaders, and polls where people are asked about whom they think should become our next president. They are featured in publications that are seen as lower-class, as well as in publications that are of the highest caliber.

[Villemann]

The interesting bit is that they are posing the question at all. Even the most loyal of royal magazines is now debating the who, when and why's of the Danish monarchy. It is great news for all us royalist, who believe in a more modern monarchy!

[antonieta]

Thank you Hedvig for your short answer.

[Hedvig]

Originally Posted by antonieta

Thank you Hedvig for your short answer.

You are welcome. Now I've skimmed through the articles, and they say that Amber Petty and some of her friends got drunk at a party at her workplace and obviously made some trouble. All the company was thrown out. The article about Mary says, she has beaten world famous stars in the Hello magazine's poll about the most elegant woman.

[Gaia]

Originally Posted by Duke of Marmalade

It's not disturbing at all, it's rather normal. Ask spanish people if they want Felipe instead of JC and they will tell you that they rather wish their King was immortal. I would have the same guess for Britain. Everywhere where the monarch has done a good job and has enjoyed a particulary long reign people don't want changes and they can't imagine the successor being as competent or even better. I completely agree with you that monarchy as an institution needs modernisation - probably in any monarchic country which will come down to the successor of the long term monarch - but I still see Frederik in a better position than The Prince of Wales with his vast tradition empire or to Prince Felipe who will face abolishment if he doesn't get his act together quickly. The only exception might be the Dutch where abdication and handing over is a common thing so people are not too afraid of change or know well that the CP is fit for reign and fully accepted and included in everything otherwise the monarch wouldn't pass on at that stage.

Excellent post! I would add Prince Phillipe of Belgium, who seems to be in a precarious position as a future King of the divided Flemish and Walloon factions.

[Villemann]

Originally Posted by Aotearoagal

I saw it. The show compared Fred's 72 engagement last year with Prince Charles' 370 ... which on the face of it is fair enough criticism. Is Frederik not able for some reason to fulfil more obligations? Or is he working hard every day that he doesn't have an engagement or a sailing duty, studying at affairs of state in readiness for the throne? The item was mainly critical of the DRF rather than Mary.

Oh, I might be responsible for that one, because I decied not to do Today Tonight but to go with A Current Affair instead - and now TT are getting their own back!

[marfre]

Oh please, why would a tv program in Australia want to get their own back, on regarding an interview with someone most Australians have never heard of . This of course is judging by my family, friends and work colleagues.
Both shows are classed as rather trashy viewing, if anyone wanted to be treated seriously they would not opt for either of them.

[Villemann]

I think it is called a "spoiler."

[crisscross1]

Originally Posted by marfre

Oh please, why would a tv program in Australia want to get their own back, on regarding an interview with someone most Australians have never heard of . This of course is judging by my family, friends and work colleagues.
Both shows are classed as rather trashy viewing, if anyone wanted to be treated seriously they would not opt for either of them.

Excellent point . Being seen on Sixty Minutes would hold a little more clout.

[ricarda]

Originally Posted by Villemann

Disturbingly for Frederik more than 60 percent - the last time I looked - think Margrethe should stay on to modernize the monarchy instead of leaving the reigns to Frederik.

To be accurate - {removed personal comment - Empress} the question of the poll is: Should Frederik become king now? Should Margrethe leave the throne to her son now (meaning: abdicate)?
And the voters can choose either: yes, Frederik should become king now, or no, Margrethe should stay until the end of her life (which is the normal thing for a monarch in Denmark).

In a country which has no tradition of abdication IMO it's actually quite astonishing that 43% think Margrethe should abdicate and only 57% are for a lifelong reign. (results shown on 31 July)
IMHO it means that at least 43% of the voters of this poll actually think that Frederik would make such a good king that there is no need for his mother to reign till the end of her life.

And actually the article in BB mentions that Frederik and Mary are super-popular at the moment and the royal house could use that situation to give Frederik a "flying" start as a king. They say that Margrethe has done a great job and she modernized the monarchy. They ask their readers: Should she now retire like most Danes of her age do and leave it to her son to continue the work and modernization?

No, it's not about Margrethe modernizing the monarchy instead of leaving the reigns to Frederik, {removed personal comment} This article contradicts your points of view, it doesn't support them.

[MARG]

Duke of Marmalade, sgl, Gaia, ricard, take a bow. . . . . For your reasoned replies to those who fail to even read all the way through the articles they are posting to support their standpoints.
One of the first life-lessons I was taught was that it is often more of a lie to tell a half truth than to tell an outright lie.

ps. To those others of like mind I missed - apologies. I am a little pressed for time.

[Empress]

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[Santacruz]

Originally Posted by T4phage

What does that mean, exactly?

When it comes to gentlemenness Fred isn't the first man on earth that comes into my mind. If you're his wife/girlfriend don't expect too much...Well he never had to work on that , there never was a problem of getting a new girlfriend, the girls were there anyway...

[Madame Royale]

If you're his wife/girlfriend don't expect too much

And of course you'd know...

[Empress]

Originally Posted by Santacruz

When it comes to gentlemenness Fred isn't the first man on earth that comes into my mind. If you're his wife/girlfriend don't expect too much...Well he never had to work on that , there never was a problem of getting a new girlfriend, the girls were there anyway...

That's a rather definitive statement to make considering you are most likely making your judgment based on photos and no real life experience. Would you care to share a photo of yourself, and we can judge you based on what our imaginations could dream up and your activities and comments on this board?

[Santacruz]

Aren't most statements here based on what is seen on photos? Please correct me if I am wrong.

[Jo of Palatine]

Originally Posted by Santacruz

When it comes to gentlemenness Fred isn't the first man on earth that comes into my mind. If you're his wife/girlfriend don't expect too much...Well he never had to work on that , there never was a problem of getting a new girlfriend, the girls were there anyway...

I as have others on these forums seem quite some video-coverage of the interaction of Fred and Mary and so far, my impression was that he is a very compassionate man who has no problems showing his emotions to his wife and children. Maybe there are other, more gentle men that you know so he is not your prime example bot for me he appears to be a very pleasant husband and father.

[selminha]

I agree with you, Jo of Palatine