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Old 06-01-2007, 05:42 PM
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I remember Mary came from a PR background before she met Frederik so being able to take something and presenting it well does seem to be a particular interest and gift of hers which is especially appropriate as a member of a figurehead monarchy. Her skills and interests seem to fit the requirements of her job perfectly. She's not a scholar or intellectual but I think those types of gifts would be wasted on someone of her position.
I read an article in Hello, where they quoted Mary as saying something like she considered her role as princess as a PR one (canīt find the exact quote)...and I have to say she is very good at PR and I admire the way she has brought so much attention to the many organisations she supports...but for me being a princess is more than just PR....and I donīt feel Mary has quite got the balance between princess and PR yet.
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What is PR? I know it's probably obvious, but I can't figure it out.
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Old 06-01-2007, 05:52 PM
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What is PR? I know it's probably obvious, but I can't figure it out.
Public relations (PR) is the managing of outside communication of an organization to create and maintain a positive image. Public relations involves popularizing successes, downplaying failures, announcing changes, and many other activities.
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Old 06-01-2007, 06:19 PM
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In fact, its my own personal opinion but I think Alexandra, a keen intellectual and former businesswoman, did not get enough satisfaction from the purely superficial role in the Danish monarchy that her position required. I would not be surprised to see her take on something more substantial in the future but such a substantial role is out of place for Mary who must remain uncontroversial and out of the realm of politics.
Alexandra is divorced since 2 years now. If that "keen intellectual" wanted to do something more substantial because she did not get "enough satisfaction from the purely superficial role in the Danish monarchy" why hasn't she done so in the meantime? Or at least given signals of that kind?

If she really was so dissatisfied with her work her marriage with Martin would have been the perfect time to make an end to it. Instead Alexandra obviously chose to continue as patron for several organizations (the more important and glamourous ones) and now does exactly the same things she did before. The only difference is she does them no longer in her capacity as a princess but as a Danish "celebrity" with a royal past - and of course she is working much less.

IMO Alexandra is certainly an intelligent woman but I don't see her as an intellectual one with a desire for more substance. In fact I think PR (thanks MissSaga for your definition) is the one thing Alexandra really really was/is good at and Mary could learn a thing or two from her (or perhaps better not. I am not so fond of PR when there seems to be such a deep gap between the promoted image and the actual facts ).
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Alexandra is divorced since 2 years now. If that "keen intellectual" wanted to do something more substantial because she did not get "enough satisfaction from the purely superficial role in the Danish monarchy" why hasn't she done so in the meantime? Or at least given signals of that kind?

If she really was so dissatisfied with her work her marriage with Martin would have been the perfect time to make an end to it. Instead Alexandra obviously chose to continue as patron for several organizations (the more important and glamourous ones) and now does exactly the same things she did before. The only difference is she does them no longer in her capacity as a princess but as a Danish "celebrity" with a royal past - and of course she is working much less.

IMO Alexandra is certainly an intelligent woman but I don't see her as an intellectual one with a desire for more substance. In fact I think PR (thanks MissSaga for your definition) is the one thing Alexandra really really was/is good at and Mary could learn a thing or two from her (or perhaps better not. I am not so fond of PR when there seems to be such a deep gap between the promoted image and the actual facts ).


Well said ricarda! You are so right in what you say about Alexandra and her PR!
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Old 06-02-2007, 09:49 AM
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I just wanted to thank Empress for your post #185 - it was spot on.
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If she really was so dissatisfied with her work her marriage with Martin would have been the perfect time to make an end to it. Instead Alexandra obviously chose to continue as patron for several organizations (the more important and glamourous ones) and now does exactly the same things she did before. The only difference is she does them no longer in her capacity as a princess but as a Danish "celebrity" with a royal past - and of course she is working much less.
I'd imagine if she stopped working altogether like you suggested she would be criticized for doing so, and if she continued to work like she had when she was a Danish princess she would've been accused of trying to steal the spotlight from the royal family. It is only your opinion that she chose to keep the more "glamorous" causes. Of course causes she felt were more important to her she would keep. She has a lot less money to work with now and less staff, so of course she would have to reduce the work that she does. It's funny you say in the same paragraph that Alexandra is "working less" but also say that if she didn't like her work she should end it. So, which do you want her to do? It seems like you are willing to criticize her for not working enough but at the same time criticize her for not leaving public life altogether.
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Old 06-02-2007, 05:49 PM
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I was not suggesting anything.
I was responding to a post and disagreeing with the poster's opinion.
The question was: Did Alexandra grow tired of her "superficial role" and is now looking for something "more substantial"?
And my opinion is: There is no evidence Alexandra grew tired of her role as patron and is looking for something "more substantial" now, if she had so then she would not have kept the more important patronages (I am not the one who says being a patron and promoting good causes is not substantial). In her post-princess days Alexandra does exactly the same things as in her princess-days (cutting ribbons, smiling, greeting people, giving speeches..).
Perhaps you should read comments in their context before quoting them and giving them a different meaning?

Actually I don't critizise Alexandra for not leaving public life because I think she will always be a public person in Denmark, no matter what she does.
But now you have mentioned it I do think that she is not working enough for the money she gets from the Danish taxpayers. Even if one considers all circumstances (less money, less staff, new life) the reduction of her workload has gone too far IMO, ~30 engagements in 2006 and ~8 engagements so far in 2007, and all that after the display of business around the time of her divorce - that certainly doesn't make a good impression on me.
But perhaps I am wrong and "intellectual" Alexandra is at home right now, working busily in her office, inventing something that will be "substantially" important for the world (or Denmark at least).
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Old 06-02-2007, 07:24 PM
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Princess Mary coy on gold rose

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Thanks dazzling!

Nice design. I think it maybe a tribute to her mother like the article says and she wants to share that privately in her heart and thoughts. Kudos for not revealing every aspect of her life.
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:45 AM
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These days I have been in some old threats regarding Mary life before Frederick and just after her marriage! It's amaizing to see how mucht see has changed!
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I really just hope Mary comes back from leave ASAP so we can talk about other stuff I miss the lack of news about her. Is there anything in the Danish press besides nanny talk ? Can any Danish members be helpful/
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I really just hope Mary comes back from leave ASAP so we can talk about other stuff I miss the lack of news about her. Is there anything in the Danish press besides nanny talk ? Can any Danish members be helpful/
Yes I agree, but at the meantime we can talk about her speeches, how does she look over look her orginizations etc

As for nannies, I think its someones choice whether to have one or not.
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Well, not an official engagement, but Mary has been out and about with her nieces and nephews to a soccer/football game.

Danish Royal Watchers has the news, although you will have to scroll to the second story.
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Great article! It must have been really embarrassing for Frederik and Mary. They had been really looking forward to showing their relatives a great Danish passion- I wouldn't be surprised if the children are big soccer/football fans themselves, as it is the most popular sport in the world- and a great personal passion of especially Frederik's, when this drunken man came onto the field and ruined the game! I hear that it was a very good, exciting game too. By the looks of his face in the pics, Frederik was not very happy about it!

It also looked like fun when they cooked out. I'm sure Christian enjoyed having his cousins visit, and they were probably overjoyed to see Lillepigen as well.
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Old 06-14-2007, 04:32 PM
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the pictures of the match look lovely and mary looks happy to be with her family again since such a long time. when was the last time mary met her nephew and nieces before travelling to australia at the end of last year?
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Here's an article from BT about an article in the Australian version of Reader's Digest "Who do you trust?" which states that Mary came in 11th place and ahead of HM Queen Elizabeth II.

Here is the enlarged picture of the Reader's Digest magazine.

Could one of the Danish posters please help with a summary translation of the article? I would be very greatful.
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Though my Danish is below average at best, , part of the article notes (and questions) why would she be better trusted than QEII. Because, according to the article, QEII is a "political body" and somewhat removed from reality (that is my guesstamation because there is a word that I cannot understand.)

Mary, on the other hand according to the article, is doing a good job as Crown Princess, but more importantly "...she has not forgotten Australia." She is also a "...contemporary..." (I think they mean modern) Crown Princess who is "...peaceful and unsnobby..."

There is more, but I think a Dane should translate the article, using their own words, so we can understand it better.
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I got that Readers Digest , as my family is subscribed to Readers Digest. I read it and it only talks about Mary in one sentece or something as far as I can remember, nothing noteworthy. As for the Danish article, i dont know what it says.
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Here's an article from BT about an article in the Australian version of Reader's Digest "Who do you trust?" which states that Mary came in 11th place and ahead of HM Queen Elizabeth II.
Hmm, intresting but not what i would expect. I guess people who voted, voted for Mary because she's younger & has a greater % of watchers & in some way there is a difference between QE and Mary in the way of Mary was born, raised in Austraila and moved to another country & is a princess but QE is a different story. I also think, its quite unfair to put the two in the same category.
But thanks for sharing
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