Countess Alexandra and Martin Jørgensen Current Events 3:December 2007 - October 2008

[norwegianne]

Originally Posted by acdc1

That's a nice picture of the boys, but what is the article about? Free translation that I tried made it seem like the family was on vacation.

Yes, on vacation in Turkey with their mother and stepfather. The picture is a montage, by the way.

[sofajr]

Alexandra and Martin with the boys in Turkey.
If I understood right they will live there for some time.

SE og HØR - Alex og Martin: Vil bo i Tyrkiet

[sneeuwklokje]

As far as I can understand Danish, they are interested in a holiday home.

[Lilla]

You are right. According to the article they have looked at a holliday home in Alanya. It is quit popular in Denmark to bye holliday homes in Turkey - especially in Alanya.

[Naggi]

Alanya is a quite popular holiday spot. Turks like to holiday there as well. I have been there once. It is beautiful there. However it is also much of a touristic place. I am not quite sure how Alex and Martin will manage to protect their privacy in such a crowded place - especially when they must calculate to walk into some Danish people :-)

[alex001]

I think that Alexandra and Martin have probably given up trying to be 100% private, because they will always be recognised when walking around in Denmark, so I suppose that they now they can't expect to be entirely private.

[Paty]

Today the magazine Se og Hor publish an areal view of Countess Alexandra House in Østerbro. Can someone translate?

SE og HØR - Alexandra: Her er hendes slot

[Odette]

Is this the house P Joachim paid for after the divorce??

[Lilla]

Yes it was and as the prices on houses in Denmark has raised extencivly since then - it represent quit a fortune by now.

[Odette]

Good to know Alexandra got a good deal on the way out. It looks like a real huge place.

[Lilla]

It is. I live in the same area of Copenhagen and used to pass by this house on bike every day - going to my former job. Unfurturnatly I never got to see Alexandra or the kids.

[Odette]

Originally Posted by Lilla

It is. I live in the same area of Copenhagen and used to pass by this house on bike every day - going to my former job. Unfurturnatly I never got to see Alexandra or the kids.

Lucky you!!!!!!! Looks like a beautiful area to live in. I guess they get in the cars in the courtyard and drive away....

[alex001]

There's another article here which I don't think has been posted, I'm not sure what it's about:
SE og HØR - Alexandra: Hjemme fra ferie

[Viv]

It's a pretty sarcastic comment from the
not- always-so-royalistic gossip-rag!

In short: it's about Alexandra and Martin
returning from their round of popular holiday
resorts like Alanya, Sardinia and (somewhere in) Italy
after dropping off the kids in Paris for
Prince Joachim and Princess Marie. Etcetera blah-blah.
It concludes "all for an annuity of 1.9 million kroner"

This piece just underlines the difficult situation
of the countess. Her patronages have been
scaled down and yet she's supposed to do
something in return for her money.

I don't mind contributing to her annuity, which
seems to be a problem for the RF- scrutinizing
and petty-minded Danes.
1.9 mill. kroner are peanuts in the
Budget, and they're even subject to tax!

Of course it would have been better had the RF been able
to pay for her upkeep of their own means.
Apparently they can't, and so be it!

Nor do I mind her getting freebees - if that's
the case - at various holiday spots. I don't see her
life as enviable at all and IMHO Alexandra is chained on
- at least - one foot!

viv

[Villemann]

Originally Posted by Viv

It's a pretty sarcastic comment from the
not- always-so-royalistic gossip-rag!

In short: it's about Alexandra and Martin
returning from their round of popular holiday
resorts like Alanya, Sardinia and (somewhere in) Italy
after dropping off the kids in Paris for
Prince Joachim and Princess Marie. Etcetera.
It concludes "all for an annuity of 1.9 million kroner"

This piece just underlines the difficult situation
of the countess. Her patronages have been
scaled down and yet she's supposed to do
something in return for her money.

I don't mind contributing to her annuity, which
seems to be a problem for the RF- scrutinizing
and petty-minded Danes.
1.9 mill. kroner are peanuts in the
Budget, and they're even subject to tax!

Of course it would have been better had the RF been able
to pay for her upkeep of their own means.
Apparently they can't, and so be it!

Nor do I mind her getting freebees - if that's
the case - at various holiday spots. IMHO
she's chained on at least one foot!

viv

I respectfully disagree. Alexandra's annuity is a disgrace and not worthy of a modern monarchy. May I remind you, that when Charles and Diana divorced, their financial settlement was completely private and did not involve ANY public money. I for one do not understand why the Danish taxpayer was left to pay Prince Joachim's alimony to his ex-wife. Having said that, I think Denmark lost out on a great opportunity to employ Alexandra. She could have become an excellent trade attache somewhere or worked at the Foreign Office. She is highly skilled and her talent is being wasted on the few patronages, she has left. Unfortunately her departure from Amalienborg was so acrimonious, that no one was going to lift a finger for her after they had secured her lifelong allowance from the Danish people.

[Viv]

Contrary to the British RF the Danish RF have nothing
corresponding to the Duchy of Cornwall and
the Duchy of Lancaster and the income generated
by these estates! If that were the case the
financial issues of the divorce would have been
solved without involving the Danish tax payer!

Nor did I ever see Alexandra as a good-will
ambassador or an ex- princess-of-(the Danish) -hearts.
like the role the late Diana envisaged for herself.
And nor does the royal court, if your book is
anything to go by !

So far we're stuck with this quasi-royal family
made up of Martin Jørgensen and countess
Alexandra for a number of convoluted reasons.

Viv

[Villemann]

Originally Posted by Viv

Contrary to the British RF the Danish RF have nothing
corresponding to the Duchy of Cornwall and
the Duchy of Lancaster and the income generated
by these estates! If that were the case the
financial issues of the divorce would have been
solved without involving the Danish tax payer!

Nor did I ever see Alexandra as a good-will
ambassador or an ex- princess-of-(the Danish) -hearts.
like the role the late Diana envisaged for herself.
And nor does the royal court, if your book is
anything to go by !

So far we're stuck with this quasi-royal family
made up of Martin Jørgensen and countess
Alexandra for a number of convoluted reasons.

Viv

Since the Danish public is denied any insight into the royal finances, we really do not know how rich or poor our royal family is. However, I am certain that the palace courtiers could have come up with something (perhaps even a job?) had it been necessary to "reimburse" Alexandra. It was not necessary because in Denmark the royal house gets what the royal house wants. The "deal" with Alexandra is opposed by a majority of Danes in all the polls, I have seen (please don't ask me to find them, but I have them somewhere because I have done some research into this)

[Guido]

Originally Posted by Villemann

I respectfully disagree. Alexandra's annuity is a disgrace and not worthy of a modern monarchy. May I remind you, that when Charles and Diana divorced, their financial settlement was completely private and did not involve ANY public money. I for one do not understand why the Danish taxpayer was left to pay Prince Joachim's alimony to his ex-wife. Having said that, I think Denmark lost out on a great opportunity to employ Alexandra. She could have become an excellent trade attache somewhere or worked at the Foreign Office. She is highly skilled and her talent is being wasted on the few patronages, she has left. Unfortunately her departure from Amalienborg was so acrimonious, that no one was going to lift a finger for her after they had secured her lifelong allowance from the Danish people.

Alexandra probably doesn't want to work any more. It is clear she lives comfortably on annuity.

[grevinnan]

Alexandra's settlement is nothing unusual other than the involvement by the state. And that is a matter between the Queen and the government.

[sneeuwklokje]

Is that amount of money such a problem to the Danish?? It's something like 400.000 euro's or thereabout on which Alexandra still has to pay tax, so she is left with, say 275.000's euro per year?? That's peanuts to the Government I'm sure. What else do you expect?? She still has to raise 2 princes and can hardly do so in a 2 bedroom appartment in some "minor" neighbourhood of Copenhagen, can she?? You cannot compare this divorce to what happened to Diana and Sarah, thank God the Danish solved it a lot more stylish. I personally have no problem at all with it (you may have guessed, I am and have always been a huuuuuge Alexandra fan, this lady is a class act). I think it was al set up to give Nicolai and Felix a princely upbringing after the divorce, because they do not live with Joachim all the time. Come on, it's not like she is receiving millions of euro's. And did she not return only 8 of her patronages to the Crown and still has the other 16 or so?