Royal and Princely Houses of Hohenzollern

[Warren]

Originally Posted by kingfernidad

Now that King Fernidad Frederick of Prussia took over his family's Monarchy of Prussia, he moved into his Official Royal Residence at Sans Souci Palace in Potsdam, Germany. The people are satisfied with the outcome and King Fernidad Frederick of Prussia abolished the House of Hohenzollern to eliminate current competition. King Fernidad Frederick of Prussia then banished Prince Georg Friedrich of Prussia from all claims to the Prussian Monarchy.
Best Wishes, -King Fernidad Frederick of Prussia
www.royaltyblogspot.blogspot.com

You can't declare the "abolition" of a family or a dynasty. Aren't you a Hohenzollern descendant? So haven't you just "abolished" yourself? What if George Friedrich launches a counter coup from Burg Hohenzollern supported by Hanoverian and Hessian mercenaries?

[Von Schlesian]

For goodness sake, this kind of malicious and intentional misinformation has gone too far. Sorry Ken, but game over. It's quite alright to be making a quick joke and then come clean and admit that it was such, but for the less critical members of the Royal Forums, who absorb an awful lot of information, you are misleading them entirely.
Warren is totally correct when saying you can't 'abolish' a family or Imperial and Royal House, it's simply ludicrous and beyond the power of legitimate heads of Royal Houses.
While I openly favour the establishment of a Constitutional Monarchy in Germany and the return of the Imperial and Royal House of Hohenzollern and the other German Royal, Ducal and Princely Houses, it is something quite unlikely due to the political stability the Bundesrepublik enjoys. However, the high regard in which the Wittlesbach family is held by Bavarians, and others around the world is certainly something to consider when thinking of how Germany would react to a proposal of restoration.

But, 'the people' (of whom you speak when you say they are 'satisfied'), would recognise the legitimate head of the Imperial and Royal House of Hohenzollern as just that - legitimate. Not only would the public acknowledge HIRH Prince Georg Friedrich as such, but the wealth of academics, royal scholars and related Royal families. They would never be 'satisfied' with the bogus originator of an image superimposed within a frame, who declares they enjoy Canadian citizenship.

Please, become a productive member of this site and contribute the acutal information researched and documented, or cease posting the highly misleading and false information altogether.

To the Administrator, Moderators and fellow TRF members, I apologise for the confrontation, but feel this has just gone too far.

[PreDoc]

I conduct scholarly research on the Prussian monarchy and this is one of the funniest things I have found to date on the internet. Hilarious blog too!

Thanks :)

Originally Posted by kingfernidad

Now that King Fernidad Frederick of Prussia took over his family's Monarchy of Prussia, he moved into his Official Royal Residence at Sans Souci Palace in Potsdam, Germany. The people are satisfied with the outcome

[juliamontague]

"King Fernidad" is completely fake.
He posts this on all kind of Forums that talk about Royalty.

[Lindy]

Originally Posted by Marengo

Isn't this his cousin Victoria-Luise? I always thought that Cornelie-Cecile was mentally handicapped.

What is the current status of Cornelie-Cecile's disabilities? Where does she live and what does she do?

[Lindy]

Originally Posted by Marengo

Isn't this his cousin Victoria-Luise? I always thought that Cornelie-Cecile was mentally handicapped.

According to Netty:
Cornelie Cécile is, to quote Marlene Eilers Koenig 'Severely retarded'. Sam Dotson once described it like this (well he is a doctor): 'became neurologically handicapped as the result of a perinatal infection, encephalitis caused by cytorhegalovinus'.

[Jo of Palatine]

Originally Posted by galuhcandrakirana

Princess Xenia of Saxony, 19, who will also skip the wedding, said: 'I do hope that Ferfried does not experience a similar fate to that of Franz Gsell.'

Just a short info about Xenia Princess of Saxony: she is the illegitimate daughter of Iris Princess of Saxony (thus German family law accords her her mother's last name which is "Prinzessin von Sachsen") and an unknown father. Iris herself is the legitimate but morganatic daughter of Prince Georg Timo von Sachsen and Margit Lukas, who was the daughter of a butcher. Iris grew up at her mother's parent's house without knowing of her Royal background till she was 18. She has been married for four times, in between she had two daughters from unknown fathers according to http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb....16.html#i26563
Other genealogy sources say the same.

The Family of Saxony does not recognize Iris and her children, especially as Xenia (the above quoted "princess") tries to build a career in TV by taking part as a "Princess" in shows like "The Castle" which was the medieval version of the jungle- thing "I'm a star" or in boulevard-TV-programmes where she sells her Royal background.

I do like young Xenia, during the quite tough situations in "Die Burg" she showed that she has character and is a rather sweet and well-mannered girl.
But still she is not the right "Princess" to be quoted in such an article, IMHO.

[Warren]

Jo, are you saying "people in glass houses..."

[Jo of Palatine]

Originally Posted by Warren

Jo, are you saying "people in glass houses..."

I guess, that's what I did. But really, Xenia seems to be a very nice girl and it's not her fault that her heritage is somehow tainted. And she has the right to use that name when it comes to the German law of the time she was born. Sie simply is "Xenia Prinzessin von Sachen, Herzogin von Sachsen."

And: she is not adopted, so she really has some Royal blood in her veins... I recall that at the "Burg" (Castle) show she was early on voted by the callers to become a scullery maid instead of princess and that meant hard work, early hours, primitive circumstances... But she managed very well, never became bitchy for example when she had to work as maid to one of the girls the public voted for as "ladies" etc. As I said, I like her.

And it's a difficult life she has in a way: there is no money that I know of, there is no chance she is invited to the balls of the aristocracy as she has no sponsor from the Saxony-family (they consider her probably as being just a by-blow) but she like other girls dreams of being a "real" princess... So why not try her hand at TV? After all, others are sucessful at that including the current wife of the prince Ferfried, who does not even have a drop of Royal blood in her veins and got her name through marriage (AFAIK - couldn't finde any different information on the net).

So, yes, I wish her well.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by Jo of Palatine

But really, Xenia seems to be a very nice girl... So, yes, I wish her well.

...and that's a refreshing sentiment. She'd be pulled to pieces in the Monaco Forums.

[Jo of Palatine]

Originally Posted by Warren

...and that's a refreshing sentiment. She'd be pulled to pieces in the Monaco Forums.

Interesting that you say that. When I started reading about Charlene Wittstock I thought that Xenia of Saxony could exactly be the girl for prince Albert. If he has something against the Parisian socialites his sister Caroline champions and looks more for the down-to-earth people his sister Steph favours, then Xenia (apart from being young, blond and nice to look at) could exactly be Princess Right.... LOL

I'm afraid, though, that she might not want the prince...

[RussianHistoryBuff]

Is Prince Georgii Mikhailovich Romanov not the closet heir to the non-ruling Prussian throne? After all, his biological father is Louis Ferdinand Oskar Christian Princ of Prussia. Louis Ferdinand has been the Head of the House of Hohenzollern since 1994. If anyone can answer this question please feel free to send me the answer by way of e-mail.

[Warren]

Originally Posted by RussianHistoryBuff

Is Prince Georgii Mikhailovich Romanov not the closet heir to the non-ruling Prussian throne? After all, his biological father is Louis Ferdinand Oskar Christian Princ of Prussia. Louis Ferdinand has been the Head of the House of Hohenzollern since 1994.

Sorry, but way off. The current Head of the Hohenzollerns is Prince Georg Friedrich, the son of Prince Louis Ferdinand who was killed in an accident during army manoeuvres in 1977, and grandson of Prince Louis Ferdinand, Prince of Prussia (1907-1994).

Grand Duke Georgi (aka Prince Georg of Prussia) is at the tail end of the male descendents of Kaiser Wilhelm II. His father, Prince Franz Wilhelm, is the grandson of the Kaiser's youngest son Prince Joachim, who shot himself in 1920.

[Elspeth]

Originally Posted by Lindy

According to Netty:
Cornelie Cécile is, to quote Marlene Eilers Koenig 'Severely retarded'. Sam Dotson once described it like this (well he is a doctor): 'became neurologically handicapped as the result of a perinatal infection, encephalitis caused by cytorhegalovinus'.

I assume that'd be cytomagalovirus. Not a pleasant critter.

[lord_rankin]

Originally Posted by Dulce Elena

Yes, I still have the copy. I'll scan it on ASAP for you and post it here.

Thank you so much!

[Dulce Elena]

I think it is funny now more than ever because we are seeing that democracy and republicanism are as flawed as monarchism (when they were supposed to be the answers)! I am curious, the world being how it is, what the popular style of government will be in the future? Politics is like fashion - the style changes with the times and with attitudes.


You can view the Vanity Fair article I scanned at this link:

www.geocities.com/soysuza/gfp.html

It's very large! You can enjoy reading it, too

[Benjamin]

Pictures from a concert for the Kira of Prussia Foundation (9 Sept 2006)

Prince Georg Friedrich of Prussia


Prince and Princess Franz Friedrich of Prussia


Prince Christian-Sigismund of Prussia (left) with Duchess Rixa of Oldenburg and her fiance


Source: Seeger-Press